No 1 seed for Baylor
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lol I really don’t know. I think KU has a lower ceiling than most of the top teams but plus closer to our ceiling more consistently. But inconsistent teams tend to play more consistent in the tourney and not take games off. IDK, maybe my psyche has been burned by watching too many teams hit buzzer beating guarded threes and banking in shots against us that I’m just burned out on the process and setting my expectations low.
I think that the 1 seeds are
Gonzaga
Kansas
Arizona
Purdue
I think if the sec will have 3 #2 seeds
Gonzaga
Kansas
Arizona
Purdue
I think if the sec will have 3 #2 seeds
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That makes as much sense as any list that I have seen. I don't see Baylor as a 1 but that does not mean anything.
This year’s another good example of how I think Self is his own worst enemy in terms of tourney performance. Overachieves in the regular season based on talent, and now anything short of a final four will be viewed as failure. Wash, rinse, repeat.
A loss in the 8 or even 16 should not be viewed as a major failure given the talent level. But I’m hoping for more.
So you actually think they won’t give Arizona a 1 seed?
Seed wise, it would be obviously- only 1 seed that should be disappointed if they don't make the final four is Zags IMO
Gonzaga
Kansas
Baylor
Arizona
Purdue
Auburn
Duke
Tennessee
Kentucky
Illinois
UCLA
Texas Tech
Texas
Houston
Arkansas
Wisconsin
Villanova
I don’t see a huge difference between the top 9 compared to 8-17. Even though my team isn’t playing it should be a good tournament for the fans.
Kansas
Baylor
Arizona
Purdue
Auburn
Duke
Tennessee
Kentucky
Illinois
UCLA
Texas Tech
Texas
Houston
Arkansas
Wisconsin
Villanova
I don’t see a huge difference between the top 9 compared to 8-17. Even though my team isn’t playing it should be a good tournament for the fans.
Oops I forgot about the left coast 😀
Not even sure about that. Whoever their 2 seed is will probably be a team that is roughly at their level.
SecT announcer talkin about UT deserves a 1 seed with a win. I cant much argue the way they been playin plus baylors injury problems
I don’t disagree if Tennessee wins today. Tennessee has won 11 of last 12 while Baylor has only won 8 of their last 12. Used to be that recent play and last 10 played a part seeding but with the NET that seems to have gone out the window. Tennessee wins today feel they deserve that #1 seed over Baylor. Baylor will get the last #1 seed though because of record vs quad 1 and 2.
Joe Lunardi just was quoted on the SEC champ game that Tennessee, even if Tennessee wins today, they will not be a 1 Seed. WOW! Kentucky can't be a 1 seed. WOW!
If that is true then how in hell can Kansas and Baylor both be 1 seeds. If I remember correctly Tennessee beat Arizona, so how can Arizona be a 1 seed when a team that can't be a 1 seed beat them? How can Kansas be a 1 seed when Kentucky blew them out on their home court.
This seeding is becoming more and more political. The basketball tourney is starting to look like the football playoff, pure politics.
It sucks if you are not Big 12, B1G or ACC.
That is true except UK has more wins than Tennessee. Small factor.
The other 24 UK wins don't count. I understand.
UT is blowing A&M out so Tennessee may tie UK for wins.
It’s not hard to see why KU would be a 1 over Kentucky. There’s a lot more to consider than one head to head outing.
There’s no anti-SEC bias. Kentucky would probably be a one if they hadn’t played so many scrubs in non-con and if the bottom of their league was stronger. Or if they’d taken care of business in their tourney. You guys like to say that Barnes can’t hold Calipari’s jock. Start showing it.
Thats what i meant, win today and they have the same exact recrod, overall and in sec, were a better seed in the secT and beat uk 2/3 times they played.m, and are secT champs.
I don’t think we are either without Remy Martin. If we have Remy and he plays then I think we certainly can be.
Eyeball test. UK has a higher ceiling but don’t play as consistently to their ability. Tennessee reminds me a lot of KU.
Sure. But we still have the same weakness with Remy that we do without. We will struggle against teams who are athletic and long. Slow bigs aren’t a big deal, but we struggle when teams have athletic rim protectors. Some teams are jump shooting teams so they aren’t as effected by length, but we are a team that slashes to the basket or dishes out for an open 3. Not a lot of midrange game, though Remy does help there. We have improved defensively, but McCormack has never developed into the defender we hoped he could be.
Remy’s defense this weekend was very encouraging.
The Big 12 does not have a bottom. Geeze it is a league that keeps shrinking. Pretty soon they will be the "Little 6".
Who are those bottom teams in the SEC? Teams like Missouri or Texas A&M or Arkansas? ? ? ? ? Now Texas and Oklahoma are trying their best to get out. Why are schools leaving such a powerful league?
Name me a team that chose to leave the "bottom" of the SEC for the "Little 6"? ANSWER: there are none.
Calipari is in the hall of fame. Is Barnes?
And two teams refused to play UK this year. Covid 19 excuse.
If Kentucky could have played Oscar for more than a half Tennessee would not have won. GEEZE.
That’s the point. The only thing standing in the way of HOF Calipari getting a one seed was Barnes. Most of you guys brag about having the best team in the country, so why didn’t you get it done?
Don’t play dumb about the leagues. We all know that teams aren’t leaving due to the quality of basketball.
10 teams is just fine. Why do you need more? So you can bitch about imbalanced scheduling? 🤣
Kentucky would not have been given a 1 seed if they had beaten Tennessee and Texas A&M. Hell Texas A&M did not even make the tourney. Plus you can't find where I ever posted that Kentucky was the best team in the country because I never said it.
The NCAA selection committee can screw up more than anything and never be held to account. The B1G, Big 12 and ACC bias continues year after year. There is no rational reason for Baylor and Kansas to be 1 seeds. Duke is a 2 and Tennessee is a 3. No way.
Before Kentucky can get a chance to beat Baylor they will have to get past Murray State. The selection committee likes to play these games with Kentucky. Often they will try to pit UK against an in-state school. It is not fair to UK or the other Kentucky school. You Kansas folks can't imagine what that is as there is only one decent team in the whole damned state.
Texas and Oklahoma are trying to leave the Big 12 to improve their football status. Why can't you understand that?
To repeat part of my last post:
Name me a team that chose to leave the "bottom" of the SEC for the "Little 6"? ANSWER: there are none.
Calipari is in the hall of fame. Is Barnes?
Ok two points. Nobody leaves the SEC because of football money. How this is even a talking point on a basement all board is beyond me.
Secondly, Kansas got Wichita St in the tourney not long ago. We get screwed in other ways. Being a #1 and playing a 2 in their home city/state. What about playing a 16 seed in their own state, or big 10 teams in Chicago? Teams get screwed in multiple ways. Don’t act like it’s just Kentucky.
Secondly, Kansas got Wichita St in the tourney not long ago. We get screwed in other ways. Being a #1 and playing a 2 in their home city/state. What about playing a 16 seed in their own state, or big 10 teams in Chicago? Teams get screwed in multiple ways. Don’t act like it’s just Kentucky.
Kentucky would have been a one if they had at least made the final game.
Didn't Kentucky lose in the tourney to another team from Kansas not long ago? And like the other poster said, KU had to play a really solid and underseeded Wichita St team several years ago.
Yes, Texas and OU are leaving to improve their football status. That was the point. Has nothing to do with the quality of the basketball leagues, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing that into a discussion about the quality of the basketball teams.
Lolol they do that all the damn time. Just like giving UL instate schools like morehead who beat us in 2016??? They do that to every school, to create buzz around the matchups. The same way they have pitted kansas and wichita state in the same region before. The same reason texas had to play texas albilene round 1 last year. Its not some anti uk/sec conspiracy, it happens every year, multiple times.
If anyone in this scenario got screwed its murray state for getting a 7 seed despite being ranked. They should have gotten st marys 5 seed imo, but alas the committee always screws the small mid majors.
But hell every team that advances to the round of 32 is gonna be somewhat dangerous. Weird that you single out the ovc champ as being a screwjob when u are guarenteed to not have to play a power5 team until the SS.
These dudes think that there's a giant conspiracy to keep them down.
Yet, for some reason, the NCAA looks the other way at players linked to the FBI probe, Hagans flashing benjamins, and Nike execs who discuss payments to specific Kentucky players. 🤣
Where do you get all this information that no one east of the Mississippi river have ever heard of?
Do you just love to lie?
Where was UK involved in the FBI probe? This is news to me.
Now now we all know it was only big bad adidas paying people
Merl Code: “If anyone thinks that there is such a thing as a clean big-time program, they need to wake up and smell the donkey s---."
🤣
The B12 won 81% of nonconference games, how did the other conferences fare? You make that statement without a clue.
An out of conference game could consist of a bunch of peanut U’s, your stat is meaningless. You are the one with no clue.
So you are saying that the other P5 conferences didn’t play “peanut Us”? That is a really weak attempt as most all folks here knows that all P5 conference members play cupcakes. Like I said, you are clueless.
I'm saying exactly what I said, which is the stat you're stating is weak because all NCS are not the same. You seem like the duller knife in this conversation.
Do the math on the other conferences and get back to me. If I don’t hear back, I will understand why.
The math doesn't matter without context. If Tennessee plays Nova and loses and Kansas plays Iona and wins that is hardly a measuring stick about which is the better conference. Strength of schedule is the key factor in determining the value of a conference.
That has been covered, and you are running in circles. We both know that all the P5 teams play patsies.
