James Wiseman

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  1. Villian07

    Villian07 Well-Known Member
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    Hopefully this judge has the balls to call out the ncaa for the pieces of sh** they are. I mean are there any fans of college athletics besides iuborden that doesn’t hate the NCAA and their inconsistent and selective punishments.
     
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    Like as in "UK "blew" UL's doors off."
     
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    I'm a little bitter UM fired Tubby and hired Penny just to land Wiseman, but this is horseshit. Wiseman was all but guaranteed to go to UK and Memphis wasn't going to allow it. But.., this isn't some nefarious act to get a leg up by Penny. It was a guy helping his mom (old friend), move back "home".
     
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    I dont understand people not having an issue with this. You take $11.5k, you dont get to play in the NCAA (especially not for the guy who paid your family's $11.5k expenses.)

    It sucks for the kid, but what is the point of even having rules if we are gonna just hand waive them away?

    I don't care who got away with what, two wrongs dont make a right and anyone caught breaking rules should be punished.
     
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    This
     
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    @klize17 suggests just suspending the coach and letting the cheating program reap the benefits of paying players.

    Like you said, why even have rules?
     
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    My god you are fragile.
     
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    I wish I could be the badass you are
     
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  10. klize17

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    [​IMG]
     
  11. hailtoyourvictor

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    The way you GIF is really impressive
     
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    Weird.

    Everything about Memphis screams "above board" and "well organized".

    Very surprised by this, hope they clear it up soon so that Penny can get back to winning that national championship.
     
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    I'm really fighting back the urge to bring up Memphis 80's vacated FF, or when Calipari helped get dude from Washington mom get a job at FedEx HQ.
     
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    Memphis looks very tough so far this year!
     
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    Where did I say I like the NCAA?
     
  16. Villian07

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    It was to help his family move from Nashville to to Memphis to play for penny’s high school team. Granted he ended up at Memphis state with Penny as well, but all that wasnt in place when penny helped move the family.

    Ncaa didn’t seem to have a problem with Eric Bledsoe’s principal paying Bledsoes families rent or changing his grades. Granted Bledsoe’s family was in a much tougher situation than the wiseman family (I assume)
     
  17. Villian07

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    Ur just the only person I can ever remember defending them.
     
  18. Villian07

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    Please do. Don’t leave out the part about Calipari landing Dejuan Wagner by giving Dejuans father milt wagner a “job”, who introduced him to www who catapulted calipari into becoming the best recruiter in history.

    Milt was a former Louisville player but Denny Crum either wouldn’t or couldn’t give him a job bc Milt never completed his degree.
     
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    I think Illinois is doing it, but I just wish they skipped and jumped over the line instead of stepping over sometimes.
     
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  20. klize17

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    That award still goes to John Wooden
     
  21. Villian07

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    Yea I’m gettin my first glimpse of wiseman tonight and Dude is jacked.
     
  22. Villian07

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    That was more for the unc/uk/duke fans that all think their program is the only clean program in the nation.
     
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    Bledsoe’s high school coach wasn’t a booster for the university he ended up playing for.
     
  24. Villian07

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    Touché, guess Sam Gilbert was a lil bit better bagman than www, though surely he had way less nephews.
     
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  25. Villian07

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    It’s still an impermissible benefit. You think that principal was paying rent for every poor family at his school or just the one that was/is really really good at playing basketball. Was he changing other kids grades that weren’t highly ranked recruits to get them eligible for college?

    I thought it was the principle not the coach but either way it’s still an impermissible benefit, booster or not.
     
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    The Memphis court is almost as bad as Oregon’s.
     
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    At least they circumcised their veiny lanes.

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  28. Villian07

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    I’m not a Louisville booster or alumni, don’t have season tickets, nothing but a fan. Does that mean I could go pay a recruit or his family rent money or car payment money to commit to Louisville and it would be A OK bc im not a booster?
     
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    Please don’t go full potato
     
  30. Villian07

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    Bahahaha give this man the post of the day award
     
  31. lurkeraspect84

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    I'm just going to let you run with that. You should repeat it every chance you get.
     
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    I guess I am full potato, shouldn’t that be an impermissible benefit or am I wrong on the ncaa rules/laws?
     
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    Where did I defend them? I've never done that. I said, the NCAA is a lot more important to schools than people think. Then listed what they do [for the schools]. I've never defended them.
     
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    I don’t for a second think you don’t see the difference.
     
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    That’s bc you can’t argue that I’m wrong. Ur in Memphis, google Memphis’s records and recruiting before and after Dejuan Wagner played for calipari.

    You already hinted at him getting a recruits mom a job, he did the same thing for Dejuan’s dad.
     
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  36. coryfly

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    It wouldn't be for UK like this is for Memphis unless the principal was a UK booster. It may could get the HS in trouble or something. I'm not sure why the NCAA would care that some principal was paying rent for a player to not be homeless and play HS ball somewhere.
     
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    Oh I definitely see the difference but an impermissible benefit is an impermissible benefit, at least according to the ncaa bylaws, well allegedly. But imo changing a kids grades to make him eligible for college is far worse institutionally than helping a kids family move to play for the high school team you coach. I mean don’t get me wrong both are def shady but whatever ur entitled to ur own opinion.
     
  38. Villian07

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    So as long as you aren’t a booster at a school you can pay/do whatever u want to help prospects/recruits.

    I’m not saying UK should have got in trouble, I’m saying Bledsoe should have been ineligible just like the ncaa is saying wiseman should be.
     
  39. hailtoyourvictor

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    I said DONT go full potato
     
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  40. Villian07

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    And yes I understand Bledsoe and his family were in a terrible situation, but like i said do you think the principle was paying rent and changing grades for every kid who grew up poor in his high school, or just the one that was good at basketball.

    That’s what makes it an impermissible benefit. It’s The direct opposite of the bs that saved UNC, in that regular students could take the fake classes too, not just the students who were on the football/basketball teams.
     

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