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Him or jay Wright. Was John beilein until he left the college gameGonzaga comes out of a nothing Conference and has no real history pre Few. The Zags will play anyone anywhere. Is he the best?
I agree with this. Go somewhere and be challenged all year in a P5 and do the same thing and then he gets in my top 5. Would love to have him at Duke when K leaves, but he has it real good in the NorthWest. Interesting to see if he ever leaves.He dominates a "nothing conference". He has what, 1 final 4 in all the years of his great teams. Consistently leaves the tournament early.
I like him and he is a top coach, but not able to prove he is the best. If he did go to a P5 and perform similar it would make it more feasible.
He dominates a "nothing conference". He has what, 1 final 4 in all the years of his great teams. Consistently leaves the tournament early.
I like him and he is a top coach, but not able to prove he is the best. If he did go to a P5 and perform similar it would make it more feasible.
All you that say no, why not and who is better?
I’m an admitted Izzo hater as a Michigan fan, but I don’t understand why he’s always mentioned with top coaches. His results over the last 10 years haven’t been exceptional. He doesn’t recruit at a duke or UK Level, but he’s consistently in the next tier. He’s certainly a very good coach, but I wouldn’t place him amongst the elite anymoreI'd take Wright, Self, Izzo and K before Few. Probably Roy. Maybe Beard.
I’m an admitted Izzo hater as a Michigan fan, but I don’t understand why he’s always mentioned with top coaches. His results over the last 10 years haven’t been exceptional. He doesn’t recruit at a duke or UK Level, but he’s consistently in the next tier. He’s certainly a very good coach, but I wouldn’t place him amongst the elite anymore
Yup his system is far too rigid. I’m not quite sure why any talented offensive player would want to play for himHe ruins talent with his defensive minded approach.
Imagine an Iowa fan saying that, lol. But seriously he does
I just know his teams always suck to play against.I’m an admitted Izzo hater as a Michigan fan, but I don’t understand why he’s always mentioned with top coaches. His results over the last 10 years haven’t been exceptional. He doesn’t recruit at a duke or UK Level, but he’s consistently in the next tier. He’s certainly a very good coach, but I wouldn’t place him amongst the elite anymore
Yup his system is far too rigid. I’m not quite sure why any talented offensive player would want to play for him
He’s an old school coach that heavily focuses on instilling toughness in his teams. so yeah, they’re a bitch to play against from that standpoint. I don’t think he develops players well for the modern NBA though and feel like the game is passing him by a bit.I just know his teams always suck to play against.
I’m an admitted Izzo hater as a Michigan fan, but I don’t understand why he’s always mentioned with top coaches. His results over the last 10 years haven’t been exceptional. He doesn’t recruit at a duke or UK Level, but he’s consistently in the next tier. He’s certainly a very good coach, but I wouldn’t place him amongst the elite anymore
For these reasons is why I think Bill Self is under valued. He has dominated Roy, K and Cal head to head. Don’t get me wrong he has had good talent but hasn’t had what duke and unc have.Personally, I think they're all overrated. Wright loses in the 2nd round every other year. K is slipping. Roy's over the hill. Izzo's up and down. Self has a crappy record in the Elite 8. Beard's a noob. But somebody has to make the list, right?😁
Seriously, though, I think you have to have Izzo pretty high. What is it, 7 final fours?
If you're just comparing results to results, he doesn't have the consistency of some other programs, but I think he usually has much less talent than the likes of Duke, UNC and Kentucky.
All great coaches, but none has had to bring a program to elite status without powerful conference advantages.I'd take Wright, Self, Izzo and K before Few. Probably Roy. Maybe Beard.
Ok, just because it gets really annoying hearing it all the time. Someone explain to me how Gonzaga CONSISTENTLY underperforms in the tournament...
They are pretty good, but not comparable.Dutcher @ SDSU and McDermot at Creighton are pretty good also
Ya that's totally fair. That definitely happens sometime, especially when they roll out wins in Conference while other teams play though schedules. But if you are getting to the round of 32 in 11 straight tournaments, doesn't that mean that you should pretty much always be ranked? And if you make it to 5 straight Sweet 16's including 2 Elite 8s and one Championship game, shouldn't you be consistently ranked in the top 10?I will not refute your post. Its accurate. However, compare all the same info to their ranking in polls. They are always highly rated, typically top 10 and almost never out of the top 25. Yet that doesn't reflect very well in the tournament.
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Ya I'm not going around saying he's the best coach in CBB. I think that's a little overkill. Fans of other teams dislike Gonzaga enough without threads like this.Perhaps. If Cal left UK I wouldn't mind him taking over. I would certainly say he is a better pure coach(x's and o's). I just think its hard to label him the best over several other mentioned.
Why do fans dislike Few? He has /is doing a remarkable job when legends are getting pummeled and wanting to quit the season.Ya I'm not going around saying he's the best coach in CBB. I think that's a little overkill. Fans of other teams dislike Gonzaga enough without threads like this.
He is the best coach for Gonzaga. That's all I know and all I care about.
Fans don't dislike Few, they dislike GonzagaWhy do fans dislike Few? He has /is doing a remarkable job when legends are getting pummeled and wanting to quit the season.
Going off credentials, it's K obviously.
If Turge was fired today (only be so lucky), I would want Wright or Self as my head coach, with Few & Beard right behind them-factoring in age as well...
Why do fans dislike Few? He has /is doing a remarkable job when legends are getting pummeled and wanting to quit the season.
People think being in a peanut conference is an advantage over a P-5 when the Zags pretty much take on anyone?I wouldn't say people dislike Few-more that some question if he would have this success in a Power Five Conference...
People think being in a peanut conference is an advantage over a P-5 when the Zags pretty much take on anyone?
People think being in a peanut conference is an advantage over a P-5 when the Zags pretty much take on anyone?
Because they get high seeds without playing in a P5 conference. And they haven't won a Championship yet so people don't know if the high seeds are very warranted.Why?
Just so we are clear-----He's not in your Top 5-----But you would love to have him at Duke?I agree with this. Go somewhere and be challenged all year in a P5 and do the same thing and then he gets in my top 5. Would love to have him at Duke when K leaves, but he has it real good in the NorthWest. Interesting to see if he ever leaves.
Early in his tenure---solid argument.Because they get high seeds without playing in a P5 conference. And they haven't won a Championship yet so people don't know if the high seeds are very warranted.