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Generally Hated More; UK, Duke or UNC?

I’m cool Junior. You’re mad/rustled/pissy about UNC. As long as you stay that way I’m good! SmokinSmile
That makes it good for both of us. You can still be a fan of the biggest cheater in college basketball and I can still continue to rub it in your face.
 
That makes it good for both of us. You can still be a fan of the biggest cheater in college basketball and I can still continue to rub it in your face.


You’re not smart enough because I get the last laugh. Stay pissy and I’ll remain happy. Also the biggest cheater in CBB history is UK, google it. Laughing
 
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@Bert Higginbotha swears to me that Kentucky is superior to Duke and Duke not having all of their games on TV was a reason why .
I do not swear.

It is a fact that in the past few years all of Dukes games have not been on TV.
It is a fact that all Kentucky games since the Kentucky Missouri 11-26-1997 (I have all recorded).
It is a fact that Kentucky has more titles than Duke.
It is a fact that Kentucky has more total wins than Duke.
It is a fact that Duke has 5 titles since 1991 and Kentucky only has 3 titles.
It is a fact that Kentucky had 5 titles before 1991 and Duke had 0 titles.
It is a fact that Kentucky draws more than twice the attendance at home than Duke.

I don't understand why you continue to bring this up when it is just a statement of fact. There are reasons that all of Duke's games have not been aired. You will not accept the answer! Eyeroll Other than the bolded part Kentucky is and has been superior to Duke.

You are welcomed to prove me wrong. Good luck.
 
In the time I have been alive, it is Duke. (Duke is also the most successful program since I have been alive as well) The first point is not not close really. Which is great because fans of other programs usually do not hate on a losing program. So I say, let the hate go on! I hope Duke drives you all to hate even more.
Dang, you are less than 30 years old?
 
@Bert Higginbotha have all Kentucky games been televised nationwide since 1997 or have they just been televised in Kentucky since 1997? Because I know for a fact that all KU games have been televised in the state of Kansas for atleast that long. I feel like it’s doubtful that Kentucky was on national tv for games against the likes of Towson State and Binghamton ( RIP @WojoRising ) back when it was really only ESPN and ESPN 2 that were showing sports every night. I could be wrong but I see no reason why those games would be on in a place like California when they could show schools from that area or even NBA/NHL games.
 
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@Bert Higginbotha have all Kentucky games been televised nationwide since 1997 or have they just been televised in Kentucky since 1997? Because I know for a fact that all KU games have been televised in the state of Kansas for atleast that long. I feel like it’s doubtful that Kentucky was on national tv for games against the likes of Towson State and Binghamton ( RIP @WojoRising ) back when it was really only ESPN and ESPN 2 that were showing sports every night. I could be wrong but I see no reason why those games would be on in a place like California when they could show schools from that area or even NBA/NHL games.

I really get distressed by being called a liar. It is not my fault that Kansas and Duke and North Carolina basketball did not rate a network.

Kentucky basketball games have been nationally telecast via satellite nearly as long as satellite becoming viable. Eastern Kentucky is mountainous. TV signals basically go in a straight line. The easiest and cheapest way to feed the games to mountainous areas is via satellite. How do you think that you get ESPN? By 1983 nearly every UK game was available nationwide.

Schoonerwest, I spent most of my career away from Kentucky. How do I have all these games if they were exclusive to Kentucky? Additionally, a bunch of Indiana games were also available nation wide thanks to Farm Bureau, other good companies and a massive interest in Indiana basketball.

I have EVERY Kentucky game since 11-26-1997 (see note below). Arizona beat UK in the Maui Classic and ESPN would not give the rights to the Maui classic game between Kentucky and Missouri. The UK Network begged for it. I know specifically because my friend produced the games during that era. Also in 1997 I was living in Florida and I got ever darned game because if CBS or ESPN did not carry the game they were up-linked on the UK Network.

Additionally, I missed few games in the 1990's and I never lived a day during that decade in Kentucky.

I am sorry that you folks don't believe me but that is not my problem. It is just a damned fact that a bunch of Kentucky games were telecast long, long before there was any interest in many schools. Hell the first color telecast that I ever say was 1963 Notre Dame versus Kentucky. It was done by WAVE & WKYT.

Ask Lurker about my collection. He has seen them.


Edit: in 2003 Kentucky was playing an NCAA tourney game on CBS when the U.S. initiated the bombing campaign. CBS dropped the NCAA for news. I only have part of that game. Some of the CBS games were also chopped up early on because they cut in all the damned time. Many of those games I have video but not the commentary.
 
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I really get distressed by being called a liar. It is not my fault that Kansas and Duke and North Carolina basketball did not rate a network.

Kentucky basketball games have been nationally telecast via satellite nearly as long as satellite becoming viable. Eastern Kentucky is mountainous. TV signals basically go in a straight line. The easiest and cheapest way to feed the games to mountainous areas is via satellite. How do you think that you get ESPN? By 1983 nearly every UK game was available nationwide.

Schoonerwest, I spent most of my career away from Kentucky. How do I have all these games if they were exclusive to Kentucky? Additionally, a bunch of Indiana games were also available nation wide thanks to Farm Bureau, other good companies and a massive interest in Indiana basketball.

I have EVERY Kentucky game since 11-26-1997 (see note below). Arizona beat UK in the Maui Classic and ESPN would not give the rights to the Maui classic game between Kentucky and Missouri. The UK Network begged for it. I know specifically because my friend produced the games during that era. Also in 1997 I was living in Florida and I got ever darned game because if CBS or ESPN did not carry the game they were up-linked on the UK Network.

Additionally, I missed few games in the 1990's and I never lived a day during that decade in Kentucky.

I am sorry that you folks don't believe me but that is not my problem. It is just a damned fact that a bunch of Kentucky games were telecast long, long before there was any interest in many schools. Hell the first color telecast that I ever say was 1963 Notre Dame versus Kentucky. It was done by WAVE & WKYT.

Ask Lurker about my collection. He has seen them.


Edit: in 2003 Kentucky was playing an NCAA tourney game on CBS when the U.S. initiated the bombing campaign. CBS dropped the NCAA for news. I only have part of that game. Some of the CBS games were also chopped up early on because they cut in all the damned time. Many of those games I have video but not the commentary.
First off I never called you a liar. I just wanted some verification on what exactly you meant by all games televised. Second I think it’s pretty cool that you have all of those games.

But to your other point, Kansas has the Jayhawk Network that televises all of their games. I don’t have a satellite tv. I can’t get that Network and I can’t get the UK Network. I never have been able to get either in Texas. I just always thought when you said “all games televised” I assumed you meant nationally televised on a major network.
 
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Is it just me or has something changed with Bill Self?

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First off I never called you a liar. I just wanted some verification on what exactly you meant by all games televised. Second I think it’s pretty cool that you have all of those games.

But to your other point, Kansas has the Jayhawk Network that televises all of their games. I don’t have a satellite tv. I can’t get that Network and I can’t get the UK Network. I never have been able to get either in Texas. I just always thought when you said “all games televised” I assumed you meant nationally televised on a major network.
I did not mean to attack you schooner, you are a good guy.

I never stated or inferred that all UK games were on CBS, NBC or ABC. Nor did I intend to infer that ESPN carried the bulk of UK games. What I have always stated was that the UK Network covered all the games that the Networks or ESPN did not cover. Then later in the evolution of Sport TV Fox also picked up the UK Network.

I don't have the old papers on what stations covered the "UK Network"; however, many stations outside of Kentucky carried the UK games. Also, Louisville and Indiana games were available the same way.

I spent a lot of money on equipment to watch the games as I lived away from Kentucky for most of my career. Satellite dishes were a wonderful addition. They became affordable in the early 1980's so I put my money where my UK heart was and instantly bought one. Then another and then another as the technology improved. It started out a C band then KU band et.al. Later on, when they started compressing the signal, I got a computer to decompress it and there was a web site to give you the digital codes to unlock it.

Now to start another fight: in the mid-1980's I was not aware of any other college team that had a similar network. There may have been one, but I never ran across them on the Satellites. There were not that many satellites in the geostationary orbit belt around the equator and I was familiar with all of them because it was before the signals were scrambled. HBO, ESPN, Cinemax, porn stations were free for the looking. There was and still is a monthly magazine named “Orbit” to document the satellites and what stations are on it.

So, the bottom line is that I refuse to retract my previous statements. I stand by them. For decades nearly all UK games have been available nationwide. Also I can prove it by having video copies of all of them. I still stand by my statement that Kansas, UNC and Duke did not have the same type exposure or I would have ran across them.
 
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I love it that in you’re quest to become the best Kentucky fan you could possibly be you came across free porn in the Golden era of Peep shows, Live Nude girls and seedy movie theaters. Kudos to you.
XXX was free.

As I said earlier you are a good guy schoonerwest. Lurker told me that. I believer Lurker.
 
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Hard for you to accept but Duke is way behind Kentucky.
Say what? Not since K has been there. There’s no doubt Cal is one of the best coaches, but what K has done in Durham has put him and Duke at the top of the mountain.

And I’m not a Duke fan that has blinders on. I don’t agree with everything K does, but he may be the best ever.
 
Say what? Not since K has been there. There’s no doubt Cal is one of the best coaches, but what K has done in Durham has put him and Duke at the top of the mountain.

And I’m not a Duke fan that has blinders on. I don’t agree with everything K does, but he may be the best ever.

....What dook 'has done' is all limited to the Coach K era.
 
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