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Lol idk man. he’s cookin a particular person itt.Yeah. Like.
The WHO (a lot of people trust the WHO) has cautioned against it. The FDA (a lot of people trust the FDA) overwhelming voted it down for anyone under 65. I don't see myself getting, personally either way.
Yea, not gonna do the booster. Just got fully vaxed in late August. No point in me getting one.
Its extremely rare for someone to have side effects from the vaccine and we've literally had millions of people in the US take it. I think the guy who thinks the government and big pharma is trying to intentionally harm millions of people is the one that's brainwashed.
Define "healthy"?
Here's links to actual people who've either been hospitalized or died from COVID who don't fall into the morbidly obese, severe preexisting condition or elderly category:
Donate to The Doug Kyle Family Fund, organized by Jay Combes
Doug Kyle left this earth to be with Jesus on Saturday. After coming down with Covid and battling… Jay Combes needs your support for The Doug Kyle Family Fundwww.gofundme.com
Donate to Kimball Family Covid Victims, organized by Kenneth Kimball
My name is Kenneth Kimball and my Identical twin Kevin Kimball along with his wife and ki… Kenneth Kimball needs your support for Kimball Family Covid Victimswww.gofundme.com
Donate to COVID VICTIM - Let’s Support These Boys, organized by Savanna Sparks
My 34 year old older sister Lynzi contracted the coronavirus a few weeks ago an… Savanna Sparks needs your support for COVID VICTIM - Let’s Support These Boyswww.gofundme.com
‘I should have gotten the damn vaccine’: Las Vegas father of 5 dies after contracting COVID during SoCal vacation
A Las Vegas father of five who died after contracting COVID-19 expressed regret over not getting vaccinated against the virus before his death, his fiancée said. Michael Freedy, 39, became infected…ktla.com
‘He loved his family’: Caleb Wallace dies after battle with COVID-19, pregnant wife says
Caleb Wallace of San Angelo died Saturday after battling COVID for weeks. His wife, Jessica, is due soon with their fourth child and has started a GoFundMe for the family.www.gosanangelo.com
I could post you thousands of more links but the point is that there are tens of thousands of relatively healthy Americans who have died from COVID.
If your definition of healthy is not being overweight, elderly or have any sort of pre existing condition, then very few Americans fall into that category unfortunately.
I haven't said that they're trying to intentionally harm, but it's become clear that they don't care if they do. It's standard to have an external critical event committee, an external data safety monitoring board and a human ethics committee. None of these were put in place. They're not even investigating deaths or adverse reactions. Not to mention that vaccine victims are routinely censored on Google and social media platforms.
9 new billionaires have been minted. Pfizer made $211 million per day in Q2 and they have zero liability. All that considered, do you really think they're going to be fully transparent about the risks?
It's pretty silly to label the other side brainwashed. You get your info from Pharma-owned sources and I don't. Simple as that. There are board members who wake up, attend a meeting at Pfizer, then get chauffered to NBC to determine their programming for the day. They own the major networks and you blindly trust them to give you all the facts.
Many of the world's top experts and even the NIH have warned about the significant risks of ADE, which were in no way excluded in trials.
Its extremely rare for someone to have side effects from the vaccine and we've literally had millions of people in the US take it. I think the guy who thinks the government and big pharma is trying to intentionally harm millions of people is the one that's brainwashed.
Define "healthy"?
Here's links to actual people who've either been hospitalized or died from COVID who don't fall into the morbidly obese, severe preexisting condition or elderly category:
Donate to The Doug Kyle Family Fund, organized by Jay Combes
Doug Kyle left this earth to be with Jesus on Saturday. After coming down with Covid and battling… Jay Combes needs your support for The Doug Kyle Family Fundwww.gofundme.com
Donate to Kimball Family Covid Victims, organized by Kenneth Kimball
My name is Kenneth Kimball and my Identical twin Kevin Kimball along with his wife and ki… Kenneth Kimball needs your support for Kimball Family Covid Victimswww.gofundme.com
Donate to COVID VICTIM - Let’s Support These Boys, organized by Savanna Sparks
My 34 year old older sister Lynzi contracted the coronavirus a few weeks ago an… Savanna Sparks needs your support for COVID VICTIM - Let’s Support These Boyswww.gofundme.com
‘I should have gotten the damn vaccine’: Las Vegas father of 5 dies after contracting COVID during SoCal vacation
A Las Vegas father of five who died after contracting COVID-19 expressed regret over not getting vaccinated against the virus before his death, his fiancée said. Michael Freedy, 39, became infected…
‘He loved his family’: Caleb Wallace dies after battle with COVID-19, pregnant wife says
Caleb Wallace of San Angelo died Saturday after battling COVID for weeks. His wife, Jessica, is due soon with their fourth child and has started a GoFundMe for the family.www.gosanangelo.com
I could post you thousands of more links but the point is that there are tens of thousands of relatively healthy Americans who have died from COVID.
If your definition of healthy is not being overweight, elderly or have any sort of pre existing condition, then very few Americans fall into that category unfortunately.
Btw, I don't think you really want to compare links. I could bombard you with reports of teenagers or 20-somethings with no health issues who died shortly after vaccination.
Your "I should've gotten the damn vaccine!" stories are about as believable as the fake Ivermectin stories.
It's gone from last words being, "I should have worn my damn mask". To, "I should have gotten the damn vaccine". Next it will be, "I should have worn my damn mask after I got the damn vaccine". Then, "I should have gotten the damned booster shot after I started wearing two masks and vaccinated".
It's fear porn and so many people are addicted to it.
How much of this do we see?
And why the staged setting?
It's fear porn and so many people are addicted to it.
How much of this do we see?
And why the staged setting?
It's gone from last words being, "I should have worn my damn mask". To, "I should have gotten the damn vaccine". Next it will be, "I should have worn my damn mask after I got the damn vaccine". Then, "I should have gotten the damned booster shot after I started wearing two masks and vaccinated".
It's fear porn and so many people are addicted to it.
How much of this do we see?
And why the staged setting?
"Not more than three seconds before taking his last breath, he told me 'Please, please don't let anyone else make the mistake I made, honey. The world must achieve 100% vaccine compliance and regular boosters. It's the only way. And absolutely no horse dewormer, dammit! Just get the vaccine, wear your mask and wait for that new Pfizer drug."
[Wife sobs hysterically]
Senator Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., claimed that the U.S. still doesn't have an FDA-approved vaccine as he exposed what was really approved by the government agency on "Fox News Primetime."
SEN. RON JOHNSON:
We do not have an FDA-approved vaccine being administered in the U.S. The FDA played a bait and switch. They approved the Comirnaty version of Pfizer drugs. It’s not available in the U.S.
They even admit it. I sent them a letter three days later going "What are you doing?" What they did is they extended the emergency use authorization for the Pfizer drug vaccine that’s available in the U.S., here that’s more than 30 days later, they haven’t asked that very simple question.
If you’re saying that the Pfizer drug is the same as the Comirnaty, why didn’t you provide FDA approval on that?
So, there’s not an FDA-approved drug and, of course, they announced it so they could push through these mandates so that people actually think, "Oh, OK now these things are FDA approved."
They are not and again, maybe they should be, but the FDA isn’t telling me why.
SEN. RON JOHNSON:
We do not have an FDA-approved vaccine being administered in the U.S. The FDA played a bait and switch. They approved the Comirnaty version of Pfizer drugs. It’s not available in the U.S.
They even admit it. I sent them a letter three days later going "What are you doing?" What they did is they extended the emergency use authorization for the Pfizer drug vaccine that’s available in the U.S., here that’s more than 30 days later, they haven’t asked that very simple question.
If you’re saying that the Pfizer drug is the same as the Comirnaty, why didn’t you provide FDA approval on that?
So, there’s not an FDA-approved drug and, of course, they announced it so they could push through these mandates so that people actually think, "Oh, OK now these things are FDA approved."
They are not and again, maybe they should be, but the FDA isn’t telling me why.
It is. This is one of your dumber talking points. A friendly recommendation would be for you to stop and evaluate what you are saying before digging your hole deeper.
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Thanks for your recommendation. I'm curious, though...when did they start administering a vaccine called Comirnaty in the US? Last I heard, they are not. And here's their reasoning:
FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has “insufficient stocks” of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is “a significant amount” of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine — produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) — still available for use.
More from the FDA:
The licensed vaccine has the same formulation as the EUA-authorized vaccine and the products can be used interchangeably to provide the vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns.
The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness.
So if they're truly identical and the only difference is the name (despite acknowledging that there's a legal distinction), why didn't the FDA grant approval to existing stocks of the vaccine instead of extending the EUA?
Companies don’t submit two initial applications for the same drug and the FDA doesn’t issue two initial approvals for the same drug. Do you see how simple that is? The application includes the trial identification numbers which are independent of the name on the bottle. There’s no wiggle room to change the formula. When Pfizer submitted the application for approval, they picked a name. That’s it.
You are (poorly) attempting to argue legal semantics. By the FDA verifying and stating that the formulations are the same, the name on the vial is rendered inconsequential. When used in the approved ways, the liability is now the same, regardless of the name on the label.
If a dude changes his name from Tom to Bill, he’s still liable for anything he did or signed or whatever as Tom. If he uses a credit card with Tom listed on the account while his name is Bill, he still has to pay those charges. If he represented himself as a CPA and performed fraudulent accounting work as Tom - before he was licensed - he would still be liable to lose his license that he obtained later as Bill if/when the fraud comes to light. This should be easier for you to understand than it apparently is. I’m a little bit embarrassed for you.
They’re not going to send vials back to get relabeled before being used. That would obviously be pretty foolish. If a doctor says, “I’m going to give you a shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine” and shoots you up with it from a vial labeled ‘Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine,’ congrats, you just received the Comirnaty vaccine.
As for the EUA, it was extended so those under 16 and those seeking a booster shot can get them. Pfizer couldn’t include those uses yet because they need specific data over a certain timeframe to get approval. Assuming the necessary safety and efficacy markers are achieved, once that timeframe is up (in a couple months it sounds like), they’ll update the uses for Comirnaty and the EUA will likely be done.
Friends son who is a sophmore in college is currently in the hospital after getting the vaccine. Has been in there for a few days and they cant figure out what is wrong with him. Healthy athlete prior to the vaccine. Please explain.
They claim that the formulation is the same. But they also claim this:
The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness.
The FDA decrees that the BioNTech vaccine under EUA should stay unlicensed but can be used interchangeably.
The reality is they don't have immunity for Comirnaty and they're not likely to allow any American to take it until they can somehow arrange immunity.
You're bouncing back and forth like a ping pong ball. But yes, it shouldn't be surprising given that they contain known toxic compounds like SM-102.
https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/33474m.pdf
“Suspected of causing cancer. Suspected of damaging fertility or the unborn child. Causes damage to the central nervous system, the kidneys, the liver and the respiratory system through prolonged or repeated exposure. Very toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.”
And I doubt that the Cayman safety data sheet even considered the possibility of it being injected into a human body.
They’re literally just using up the existing supply of the vials with ‘Pfizer-BioNTech’ printed on the labels. That’s as deep as this goes.
As I stated, the application has the trial numbers in it, which means the formula cannot be changed from the formula used in trials (it was called Pfizer-BioNTech in trials).
The legal differences have to do with the authorized uses (Comirnaty approval excludes kids under 16 and boosters, for the time being) and the locations where the ingredients are manufactured.
You are off the rails more than usual with this one.
No, you just don't question any of the bullshit corporate PR.
Why did the FDA say that BioNTech should stay unlicensed?
You said that the liability is the same. It's not. Any vaccines under EUA have a liability shield. Vaccines that say "Comirnaty" are subject to the same product liability laws as other US products.
Adults injured by the vaccine would be able to show that the manufacturer knew of problems with the product, so jury awards would be massive.
6,000 White House employees exempted. 2500 Pfizer, 1500 Moderna, 120,000 Johnson and Johnson employees exempted. 15,000 CDC and 14,000 FDA employees exempted.
Why?
Why?
I haven't looked @ this stuff in awhile here's what I see, maybe this isn't accurate I am not a fact checker
Fact Check-White House, CDC, FDA, NIAID, Pfizer and Moderna employees are subject to vaccine mandates
Social media users are claiming that employees working in Congress, the judicial branch, the White House, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID),...
www.reuters.com
PFIZER AND MODERNA EMPLOYEES
Pfizer said on Aug. 4, 2021 that it will require all its U.S. employees and contractors to become vaccinated against COVID-19 or participate in weekly COVID-19 testing https://www.reuters.com/business/he...covid-19-vaccine-or-regular-tests-2021-08-04/Moderna said on Aug. 20, 2021 that it will require COVID-19 vaccination for all its employees in the United States from October, with religious or medical exemptions on an individual basis
Moderna mandates COVID-19 vaccination for U.S. employees
Moderna Inc said on Friday it will require COVID-19 vaccination for all its employees in the United States from October.
www.reuters.com
VERDICT
Partly false. The executive order requiring federal workers to be vaccinated applies to White House, FDA, CDC and NIAID. Pfizer and Moderna have established independent mandates for their employees.
Is anyone here leaving a stoned unturned.
Is that the plan
Am I infected.
I don't know what's real.
Is that the plan
Am I infected.
Judge rules New York must allow religious exemptions to health care workers, for now
A federal judge in Utica sided with 17 health care workers who object to New York State's vaccine mandate for health workers on religious grounds.
Judge rules New York must allow religious exemptions to health care workers, for now
A federal judge in Utica sided with 17 health care workers who object to New York State's vaccine mandate for health workers on religious grounds.abc7ny.com
There are about to be a lot of suddenly religious healthcare workers haha
It will be interesting to see if this type of ruling gains steam in other places, it seems other parts of the country this hasn't happened but I haven't looked too close at the stuff.
Mandating a vaccine that doesn't prevent transmission anyways is bullshit. Especially in a time where we are having trouble filling positions to begin with. I guess we should be asking ourselves if we'd rather have a nurse who isn't vaccinated or no nurse at all. A pilot who isn't vaccinated or no pilot at all. A FedEx delivery driver who isn't vaccinated, or no FedEx delivery driver at all. And so on.
Do you guys think it was the music or the colorful lines that convinced Flagger this video makes a good point?
They rank 10th in the US in deaths per 100k. Good to see them moving the right direction they have had cases drop something like 7 or 8 weeks in a row.
I don't follow it as much with college football back and the NFL. I've been training new employees for a few weeks too. I do stop by to bump and read these Wiggins Kyrie Potato threads because over half of y'all are straight crazy and make me laugh. Those dudes on the football board are a trip too.
I will still pour my colt 45 on the curb when I want for my dead homies.
Nearly 2k people are dying per day from COVID that puts COVID #2 in leading cause of deaths in 'Merica. I know, I know... fatties. Old geezers, etc. Pre-ex conditions, all that. Not blaming it all on Ron D down south. I just noticed that massive spike a few months ago. Lots of people chipping in and showing they are pro COVID, it wasn't just Ron D. D? D who? Deeeeeeez nuts.
U.S. COVID death rate by state 2023 | Statista
As of March 2023, Arizona had the highest COVID death rate in the U.S., with 455 deaths per 100,000 population. Hawaii had the lowest death rate.
www.statista.com
Posters on the football board are absolute potatoes.They rank 10th in the US in deaths per 100k. Good to see them moving the right direction they have had cases drop something like 7 or 8 weeks in a row.
I don't follow it as much with college football back and the NFL. I've been training new employees for a few weeks too. I do stop by to bump and read these Wiggins Kyrie Potato threads because over half of y'all are straight crazy and make me laugh. Those dudes on the football board are a trip too.
I will still pour my colt 45 on the curb when I want for my dead homies.
Nearly 2k people are dying per day from COVID that puts COVID #2 in leading cause of deaths in 'Merica. I know, I know... fatties. Old geezers, etc. Pre-ex conditions, all that. Not blaming it all on Ron D down south. I just noticed that massive spike a few months ago. Lots of people chipping in and showing they are pro COVID, it wasn't just Ron D. D? D who? Deeeeeeez nuts.
U.S. COVID death rate by state 2023 | Statista
As of March 2023, Arizona had the highest COVID death rate in the U.S., with 455 deaths per 100,000 population. Hawaii had the lowest death rate.
They have a lot of opinions about a lot of sh!t, I like all the traffic. A legit laugh out loud is good for the soul.
