Big Ten coaching got better when Crean left. SEC coaching got better when Crean arrived.
Expectations Heading into Conference Play
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Big Ten coaching got better when Crean left. SEC coaching got better when Crean arrived.
I think it comes down to 4 teams within a game or two. Michigan seems to be the favorite and may get to 16 wins but I think 15 wins and you could see co champs or a three way.
Michigan St will be there.
IU can get 14 wins if the ball bounces right.
Wisconsin can too just bc I think they may
have the best player.
After that I see Purdue, Nebraska and Ohio St above .500
Northwestern might be my surprise team even though they are 0-2.
A legitimate chance at 10 bids but probably 8
POY Happ
FOY Langford
COY Beilein
Michigan St will be there.
IU can get 14 wins if the ball bounces right.
Wisconsin can too just bc I think they may
have the best player.
After that I see Purdue, Nebraska and Ohio St above .500
Northwestern might be my surprise team even though they are 0-2.
A legitimate chance at 10 bids but probably 8
POY Happ
FOY Langford
COY Beilein
Big Ten coaching got better when Crean left. SEC coaching got better when Crean arrived.[/QUOTE]
Interesting take. You may be right.
Interesting take. You may be right.
I’m much more confident in the schedule than the Heels. They could very well be favored in their first 10 ACC games. Check the schedule. I’m not lyin’...
@ Pitt
@ NCSt
Vs Louisville
Vs Notre Dame
@ Miami
Vs VaTech
@ GT
@ Louisville
Vs NCSt
Vs Miami
Vs Va (game 11)
@ Wake
Could go 10-0. I’ll guess 8-2 before Virginia.
@ Pitt
@ NCSt
Vs Louisville
Vs Notre Dame
@ Miami
Vs VaTech
@ GT
@ Louisville
Vs NCSt
Vs Miami
Vs Va (game 11)
@ Wake
Could go 10-0. I’ll guess 8-2 before Virginia.
It’s a strong take indeed but he left a top tier B10 program for a bottom of the barrel SEC program.
In any event the SEC does indeed suck so far this year. Couple squads suffered devastating injuries but a handful of presumed tourney teams have just not been good.
I’d say 8-2 over the first 10 would be close to best case scenario. Maaaaaaybe 9-1. 7-3 seems more realistic.
Totally agree. But that competition is weak, as far as ACC comp goes.
Well, yeah if you realize he replaced Mark Fox. UGA had nowhere to go but up, duh...
He’s about the 10th-11th best coach in the SEC, he’s not a difference maker when it comes to proving a point.
For UGA standards, he’s freakin Dean Smith.
(I should’ve prefaced that I hate everything red and black)
You're wrong. The SEC has two legit top 10 teams, one in the top 5 and another in the top 10. The SEC has two teams 11-20. There are only 20 spots in a top 20 and the SEC holds 20% of them. Name the three conferences that are better.
ACC, Big 10, Big 12. That was easy.
AP poll is worthless. SEC has 5 teams in the top 40 on KenPom. None in the top 5.
Big 12 has 8 in the top 40. Big 10 has 9 in the top 40.
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That is bullshit, Kenpom is nothing but a math problem guessing odds. The problem with it is that it is wrong. News flash UT beat Gonzaga and UK has lost 2 games. The AP sizes up where teams are today and the SEC is better then 2 of the 3 today.
You’re way off about KenPom, and any of the advanced metrics for that matter. Obviously its not perfect and upsets happen. But there’s a reason why Vegas odds are so close to KenPom spreads.
But even if you didn’t want to go by KenPom, you’re still missing my point. The SEC has 2 extremely good teams and 3 other top 40 type teams.
The ACC, Big 10, and Big 12 all have multiple extremely good teams AND tons of depth in the 20-40 range. They are just better overall conferences this year.
What? People don’t care about tourney teams? People don’t care about 5 seeds and 6 seeds? How does that make sense at all?
Also convenient how I say 20-40, yet you say 30-50.
It is more likely that I suit up for Kansas this year than SDS does. he’s done
Sorry, Della. You're on your own on this one. Honestly, I don't think a single person on the board would agree with a statement about 20th-40th ranked teams being meaningless when talking toughness or the NCAAT.
37th ranked team on KenPom last year was a 6 seed. Heck, 44th (Arkansas) was a 7 seed.
68 teams make the dance. The auto bids from 1 bid leagues are typically 14-16 seeds. 95% of the teams in the top 40 will make the dance. Depth in the middle of the league is absolutely part of what makes a league tough.
This is the exact argument the SEC folks have been using in football for years. How do you think it's any different in hoops?
It was an over statement. My point is that the SEC is not outclassed by 3 other conferences. After the ACC, I see think as pretty close and I think I could get some agreement on that.
He's a she. Long timer and well respected on the football board. First time I've seen her much over here.
But yeah, this specific stance is more homer than Duff beer.
And my point is, right now the objective evidence suggests otherwise. Like I said, the SEC isn't awful. Certainly better than the PAC 12 and Big East this year.
But pretty much every metric suggests a gap between the top 3 conferences and the SEC (when looking beyond just the top 2 teams).
Looking past two teams the SEC has MSU (9-1), UK (8-2) and a couple of others with just 2 losses.
Lots of conferences have a handful of teams with 1-2 losses. All schedules aren’t created equally. Kentucky has lost the only two games they’ve played an opponent with a pulse.
Mississippi State has also played a pretty meh schedule, but at least they did beat Cincy yesterday. That’s a solid win. Clemson looks good on paper but they have been playing without their best player.
The point is the SEC has parity with the upper conferences except the ACC. Does "GE" mean General Electric? (always wondered that)
Where have you heard that De Sousa will play? Someone on the Phog is also convinced he'll play within a game or two.
I get that’s what your point is. I understand that. What I keep saying is that the advanced metrics suggest otherwise. In fact, they suggest the Big 12 is the best conference top to bottom.
No. It’s a silly reference to something from when I was in high school. (I started posting here like 15 years ago).
Not so sure. This is the second poster I've come across who is confident in his return by conference play.
Well, we will have to agree to disagree on the metrics. I just had my 17th year anniversary on Rivals the 12th, Dec. I was going to UT then and my brother set me up so I could tell my dad what was going on.
I don't think that Kentucky and Mississippi State are top twenty based on who they have beaten. UK's loss to Duke was insulting and UK lost to a no body Seton Hall. Mississippi State's biggest win is what Cincinnati? And they lost to a no body Arizona State; hell Georgia nearly beat them yesterday.
