Duke Recruiting

[JimboBBN]

K isn't gone yet, I'm aware, but I am really impressed with the class they have coming in next season. Scheyer may be a drop off from the GOAT, but he is off to a really nice start with his "first" class. As of the Rivals update, they have the top 3 kids signed. Even in Zion's year, I can't remember if he, Cam, and RJ were 1, 2, and 3.

He will be one of the more fun story lines to follow in college basketball over the next several years, obviously.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Rivals has Whitehead, Filipowski, and Lively 1,2,3. The 247 composite has them in reverse order: Lively (1), Filipowski (3), Whitehead (5).

Rivals 2018: Barrett (1), Reddish (3), Zion (5)
247 Comp: Barrett (1), Reddish (2), Zion (5)

In other words, Scheyer is gonna be feeling some heat to win the natty in year 1. That's a shit ton of talent to go along with whoever returns and potential transfers.

 

[ExitFlagger]

I don’t consider it impressive. They could sit on their dicks all year and end up with a top 2 class.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

They could sit on their dicks all year

I am pretty sure that is standard procedure in Durham anyway.

 

[oldsports_]

Impressive!
Looks like a championship with those guys.

 

[GhostOf301]

Obviously judging by comments ITT. It is championship or bust for Scheyer next year. Even though it has never happened before like that.

 

[B-Westy]

We’ll see if Scheyer actually coaches these talented guys up unlike K who has phoned it in the past 5 years. Running his “roll the ball out there and do whatever you guys want” offense. Does Duke actually run anything these days? The X’s and O’s leave a lot to be desired.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Obviously judging by comments ITT. It is championship or bust for Scheyer next year. Even though it has never happened before like that.

I like the preemptive excuse in case he chokes.

 

[Afamu]

We’ll see if Scheyer actually coaches these talented guys up unlike K who has phoned it in the past 5 years. Running his “roll the ball out there and do whatever you guys want” offense. Does Duke actually run anything these days? The X’s and O’s leave a lot to be desired.

If you believe that, you truly do not watch Duke basketball.

 

[Afamu]

I like the preemptive excuse in case he chokes.

Well then Cal must need the heimlich maneuver daily.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Well then Cal must need the heimlich maneuver daily.

Since the best recruiting class he's ever had (which was not ranked 1,2,3) won the natty?

 

[bignish]

We’ll see if Scheyer actually coaches these talented guys up unlike K who has phoned it in the past 5 years. Running his “roll the ball out there and do whatever you guys want” offense. Does Duke actually run anything these days? The X’s and O’s leave a lot to be desired.

Spot on, K has absolutely mailed it in these past 5 years and maybe even longer. Luckily, our recruiting has been incredible so we've been able to cover up his poor motivational tactics, coaching and game plan flaws to some extent.

I can't wait for Scheyer to start coaching next year, ready for the next chapter to begin. He's been the point person for recruiting for years and non-Duke affiliated basketball reporters think he's a good Xs & Os guy.

K deserves this farewell tour as the GOAT and hopefully he doesn't underperform again with this talented bunch and we have a magical tournament run but I'm not holding my breath after losing to freaking UVA at home.

I don't expect Scheyer to be 90s Coach K good but he just needs to be good enough to take us over the top with these stacked recruiting classes.

 

[GhostOf301]

I actually agree about K not coaching with passion over the past 5+ years. I don't think he likes having to give into the entitled generation who demand PT, but understands that is the only way to get the recruits necessary to remain a contender. It just hasn't worked out, and probably never will. I hope Scheyer can figure it out, obviously.

 

[B-Westy]

Spot on, K has absolutely mailed it in these past 5 years and maybe even longer. Luckily, our recruiting has been incredible so we've been able to cover up his poor motivational tactics, coaching and game plan flaws to some extent.

I can't wait for Scheyer to start coaching next year, ready for the next chapter to begin. He's been the point person for recruiting for years and non-Duke affiliated basketball reporters think he's a good Xs & Os guy.

K deserves this farewell tour as the GOAT and hopefully he doesn't underperform again with this talented bunch and we have a magical tournament run but I'm not holding my breath after losing to freaking UVA at home.

I don't expect Scheyer to be 90s Coach K good but he just needs to be good enough to take us over the top with these stacked recruiting classes.

Head in the sand according to @Afamu. Watching late game situations with the Zion, RJ, & reddish team was pretty brutal. That team was unreal talent-wise that year. I’m a Purdue fan, but I watched every Duke game that season to watch those guys play. It was borderline coaching malpractice the lack of structure that team had.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

I actually agree about K not coaching with passion over the past 5+ years. I don't think he likes having to give into the entitled generation who demand PT, but understands that is the only way to get the recruits necessary to remain a contender. It just hasn't worked out, and probably never will. I hope Scheyer can figure it out, obviously.

With the military background you know it has to be tough putting up with the bullshit that comes along with this generation.

 

[TheDude1]

Rivals has Whitehead, Filipowski, and Lively 1,2,3. The 247 composite has them in reverse order: Lively (1), Filipowski (3), Whitehead (5).

Rivals 2018: Barrett (1), Reddish (3), Zion (5)
247 Comp: Barrett (1), Reddish (2), Zion (5)

In other words, Scheyer is gonna be feeling some heat to win the natty in year 1. That's a shit ton of talent to go along with whoever returns and potential transfers.

Oh good lord. Absolutely NOBODY will be putting heat on a first year coach fo win the National title because he got some good recruits. I have to assume you are being facetious, but I’m scared that I can’t, for sure, tell.

Great recruiting so far… a good start. There’s a LONG way to go

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Oh good lord. Absolutely NOBODY will be putting heat on a first year coach fo win the National title because he got some good recruits. I have to assume you are being facetious, but I’m scared that I can’t, for sure, tell.

Great recruiting so far… a good start. There’s a LONG way to go

Ohhh, so he gets a pass because he's a first year guy? You guys have gotten soft. Then again you've had the same coach for 98 years, so you're new to this new coach thing. There are no training wheels in this profession. He better win it all next season and if not it will be an epic failure. 😁

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Oh good lord. Absolutely NOBODY will be putting heat on a first year coach fo win the National title because he got some good recruits. I have to assume you are being facetious, but I’m scared that I can’t, for sure, tell.

Great recruiting so far… a good start. There’s a LONG way to go

What's Scheyer's grace period?

Outside recruiting. Duke recruits itself.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

What's Scheyer's grace period?

Outside recruiting. Duke recruits itself.

I honestly don't think he'll need a grace period. I have a bad feeling that he'll be successful. 🤮

 

[TheDude1]

What's Scheyer's grace period?

Outside recruiting. Duke recruits itself.

Three years? Gets him several years past K, several years into his own recruiting, and gives his first classes time to mature. Now, for him to get fired that quickly, he would have to really be ****ing up… but I have a hard time imagining anything less than three years?

 

[lurkeraspect84]

I honestly don't think he'll need a grace period. I have a bad feeling that he'll be successful. 🤮

It's shaping up to be a bigger storyline than K's farewell tour.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

It's shaping up to be a bigger storyline than K's farewell tour.

Nobody gives a shit about K anymore.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Three years? Gets him several years past K, several years into his own recruiting, and gives his first classes time to mature. Now, for him to get fired that quickly, he would have to really be ****ing up… but I have a hard time imagining anything less than three years?

No matter his record his first two years? Three minimum?

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Nobody gives a shit about K anymore.

Jon should take over from here out.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

No matter his record his first two years? Three minimum?

2 years, 0-50 record. Contract extension.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Jon should take over from here out.

Probably already has.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

2 years, 0-50 record. Contract extension.

Set for life.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Set for life.

The Duke Way.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

It's hard to follow a legend and win a Championship.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

It's hard to follow a legend and win a Championship.

Good thing K hasn't been legendary the past few years.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Good thing K hasn't been legendary the past few years.

2 Final fours in the last 17 years.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

2 Final fours in the last 17 years.

From legend to relic.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

From legend to relic.

It's time he hung it up.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

He left his associate head coach with a foundation.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

It's time he hung it up.

 

[GhostOf301]

2 championships in the last 17 years. Nobody has more.

*Roy Williams?

 

[Kevin Bryan]

2 championships in the last 17 years. Nobody has more.

So you're saying he's lost 15 out of 17.

 

[GhostOf301]

2 championship in the last 11 years, really.

 

[GhostOf301]

So you're saying he's lost 15 out of 17.

Cal lost 16 of the last 17. Yikes.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Cal lost 16 of the last 17. Yikes.

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