Corruption

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  1. TheDude1

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    Jesus.

    The New York Times just ran, for what might be the first time in their history, an anonymous op-ed by a CURRENT senior White House official. I generally don't cut and paste entire articles, but in case you cannot see a NYT article, I figured this one would be of interest to any of the regular political folks here.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

    President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

    It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

    The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

    I would know. I am one of them.

    To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

    But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

    That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

    The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

    Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

    In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

    Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

    But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

    From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

    Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

    “There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

    The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

    It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

    The result is a two-track presidency.

    Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

    Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

    On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

    This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

    Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

    The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

    Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

    We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

    There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.





    I'm sorry... if you don't get it yet, you are part of the problem. Thankfully it seems more of the people here get it than don't.
     
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    NYT Opinion piece?
     
  3. TheDude1

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    Read it. I've never heard of a senior member of a White House writing a piece like this. EVER. Members of the Cabinet discussed removing Trump from office?! That's... nuts.
     
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    Yeah, I'm positive that's a senior member of the White House writing that. POSITIVE. They've been so spot on and trustworthy in the past regarding Trump, amirite?
     
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    Nikki Haley 2020, instead of 2024?
     
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    I’ll take Nikki Haley 2019:)

    You read it?
     
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    Yes, I read it. None of it surprises me. I have no way of knowing if it is 100% genuine or a little exaggerated y someone who has been disrespected by the Donald. But I am sure there is a lot of truth behind it.
     
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    I would drink her bath water.
     
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    I could get behind a President like that. *rimshot*
     
  11. TheDude1

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    My guess is that the Times knew how big a deal this piece would be, and was probably pretty careful. I mean, what do I know, it was anonymous, but … sheesh.

    I assume that some day we will find out was…
     
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    Its how I imagine working with a guy like donald would be. I doubt he has many...if any, true friends. Im sure he has some that use his wealth to gain favor or something.
     
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    You can actually hear it in his voice the past couple of days. He senses that he has no support from within.
     
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    If I was him, I would quit that job tonight, take my billions of dollars, moved to some island in the Caribbean, build a set of the most beautiful houses you ever seen So all my friends could move in so all my friends could move in, and just relax for the rest of my life.
     
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    I'd help him pack.
     
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    What will you do instead for the next 8 years? Please don't say whine during the offseason.
     
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    Fake a health emergency for a full pardon on any illegal shit they have on him in exchange for leaving----then let pence just be a normal guy doing presidential things. Id be down. Also, Melania can stay put.
     
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    I know you were kidding But I find it very strange at this point that anyone be confident that Donald Trump would win the general election again. His approval rating is in the 30s or something according to most reputable polls, and every day something new comes out. Can you imagine what would happen in debates? The person he’s debating could literally just read comments from trumps own staff. He had the lucky break of a lifetime to go up against one of the most hated political figures in modern day without ever having done anything in politics that could be criticized.
     
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    Pence wouldn’t let her stay… He won’t be left alone with a woman who is not his wife;)
     
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    Avatar bet Trump gets elected again. I win you wear a Trump avatar for 4 years, you win, you can have whatever avatar you want.
     
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    You know she has to be trolling hard for literally anything else but the DT. Her life has to be miserable--even with the money. I def love to know how the family dynamic works in that family. Are they numb to it, totally unaware b/c thats how they have always interacted, or do they secretly know he is a bona fide d bag that nobody likes.
     
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    It has to be the trump photo of him in his white tennis gear looking like he ate a bunch of pillows
     
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    It certainly seems a bit less likely now than a few months ago. But I don't know if the anybody but Trump crowd has grown that much. And I know that sounds hard to believe, but who are the dems going to put out there that is moderate enough economically?

    I think a major crash of the economy or a catastrophic event in foreign policy is the key for Trump to lose given nothing comes out of the Mueller investigation.

    People care about their money
     
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    No, the world needs to see the US make an example of him, not just to emphasize the commitment we have toward our constitution and rule of law, but also to deter the next psychotic asshole despot wannabe that doesn't respect our traditions and laws.

    He needs to die in prison.
     
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    People like the above is why he has a chance to win in 2020.
     
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    You are a perfect representative of today's democratic party.
     
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    I don’t know... we literally have a president whose staff is working against him in order to keep America safe, with legislators talking about trying to avoid tragedy after tragedy, military brass who actively speak out against him, and staff saying he is off the rails, and who literally and publically endorses using law enforcement as a tool of politics. I don’t think a touch of over the top message board rhetoric (and let’s face it, everyone should agree with the part about respecting our Constitution and the rule of law, neither of which Trump has any regard for, and I think everyone agrees he is an asshole, and that he does want to be a bit of a despot... so really, the only part that you probably truly object to is the idea that he should spend the last few years of his life in prison, and the reference to death) is the *meaningful* issue here, you know?
     
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    QUOTE="TheDude1, post: 25543635, member: 420755"]I don’t know... we literally have a president whose staff is working against him in order to keep America safe, with legislators talking about trying to avoid tragedy after tragedy, military brass who actively speak out against him, and staff saying he is off the rails, and who literally and publically endorses using law enforcement as a tool of politics. I don’t think a touch of over the top message board rhetoric (and let’s face it, everyone should agree with the part about respecting our Constitution and the rule of law, neither of which Trump has any regard for, and I think everyone agrees he is an asshole, and that he does want to be a bit of a despot... so really, the only part that you probably truly object to is the idea that he should spend the last few years of his life in prison, and the reference to death) is the *meaningful* issue here, you know?[/QUOTE]

    And all that is just the past 48 hour news cycle.

    It's only Wed
     
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    Was about to post this. Fascinating shit.
     
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    @SNU0821, you're teetering on Baghdad Bob levels of denial at this point. Time to write this one off as a loss.
     
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    Sometimes I wonder if people watch to see which shit sticks to the wall. There's a lot slung and it has to fascinating to hope something actually sticks.

    "...ooh this has to be it"

    I'm glad there's people out there monitoring it....and truck drivers.Also glad for them. I couldn't do either job,but thankful someone does.
     
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    This is so typical..

    Righty votes for Trump
    Righty supports Trump
    Righty defends Trump

    Righty says Trump is Lefty's fault.
     
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    Good God, man. Get a girlfriend, a dog, a hobby, something. You need to relax.
     
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    ^^ Says the guy with 26,000 posts, 25,000 of which are of the trolling variety.
     
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    Laughing I really can't wrap my head around how angry some seem.
     
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    You just come off so unhappy and spiteful. Find something that makes you happy, dude.
     
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    Definitely Isn't IU sports.:mad:
     
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