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  1. I am stupid

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    I've stated before I didn't vote for him. That comment didn't support or defend him. You are just touchy for some reason. Must be the gay frog water.
     
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  2. Dattier

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    Before we get too carried away praising our hidden ally...
    "Just shut up and quit."
     
  3. Matt Laurer

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    We live in strange days
     
  4. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    Some are thinking it was Pence who wrote the op. Their reasoning in the op lodestar is used. Pence has used this term before. Not a term you see written very often..
     
  5. LetsGoDuke301

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    To me, it would make me more comfortable knowing that it was him as opposed to some random aid inside the White House. And that is assuming that it is factual, what has been said. I know the Trump haters love seeing the chaos inside the Trump administration. But none of these leaks are good for our country from a security standpoint. Not while he is still the commander in chief.
     
  6. lurkeraspect84

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    When people post as anonymous, and/or use unnamed sources, I can't help but call bullshit.
     
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  7. SNU0821

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    Actually, I read people think it was his chief of staff. I didn't see anything where people thought it was Pence. But that word isn't used by any of the other senior people on the staff.
     
  8. TheDude1

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    Wait, why did your quote say that was me?

    And yeah, I don't know if that is true, that they are bad from a security standpoint. Might be that it is actually GOOD; like, people know that professionals ARE actually there doing the job properly?
     
  9. SNU0821

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    Same. That's my first reaction after what we've seen from the MSM since the election.
     
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  10. TheDude1

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    That's ridiculous. Plenty of people have to do things anonymously. Deep Throat was anonymous. Lots of whistleblowers do things anonymously. As long as the people putting the information out there are confident (and the New York Times can be counted on to have vetted the material to the best of their ability) you can take a piece seriously even if it was written anonymously.
     
  11. lurkeraspect84

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    Bullshit.
     
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  12. Matt Laurer

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    Anonymous sources aren’t a new thing. Reporters have never given their sources if they want to keep information flowing
     
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  13. TheDude1

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    Nope.

    As I said...

    As long as the people putting the information out there are confident (and the New York Times can be counted on to have vetted the material to the best of their ability) you can take a piece seriously even if it was written anonymously.

    Doesn't mean it is 100% accurate, but if was vetted by a good source, you can take it seriously.

    That's certainly more true than something as silly as "If someone writes something anonymously it is bullshit."
     
  14. Matt Laurer

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    How is it bullshit?
     
  15. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...anonymous-times-op-ed/?utm_term=.ff723fb0a19e

     
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  16. LetsGoDuke301

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    Weird.

    Showing the world that the POTUS has people inside his own administration undermining his presidency is absolutely a security threat.
     
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  18. lurkeraspect84

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    Congrats on being more gullible/less cynical than me.

    Like in predictable fashion, it's about who wrote it and not what was written. Sounds familiar to sports message boards.
     
  19. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    You're probably thinking, just guessing, Jim Mattis Secretary of Defense. There's rumors, lots of them, that he will be replaced after the mid terms.
     
  20. Matt Laurer

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    Rumors that Mattis will be replaced?
     
  21. TheDude1

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    Again, disagree. I think POTUS is the security threat, to be frank.

    I think there is no WAY it was either Mattis or Kelly. I just don't see military guys doing that. My guess is a civilian.
     
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    Ivanka Trump coming in at 12/1 odds. This is the weirdest presidency in US history.
     
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  23. SNU0821

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    No, not Mattis, below is the article I read this morning. It's the chief of staff for Pence. Has to be, right? That word doesn't get used, like ever, except from Pence.

    "The names John DeStefano, an assistant to the president, Bill Stepien, White House political director, Nick Ayers, chief of staff to vice president Mike Pence, and Andrew Bremberg, another assistant to the president, were listed."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ymous-new-york-times-essay-author/1206665002/
     
  24. RutgHoops

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    I'm sure you were first to call BS on these gems from "Sources"

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  25. lurkeraspect84

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    Exactly. No one wants to take the word of a coward.
     
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  26. TheDude1

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    It has nothing to do with being a coward. What a bizarre, "macho" take. Sometimes you can do more good by ensuring that people do NOT know it is you.
     
  27. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    Mattis is too crusty. I'm sure he would stand up to Trump. I can't see him being a yes man.

    I'm all in on it being Pence....at least for the moment.
     
  28. lurkeraspect84

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    Says everyone in witness protection.

    It's fine, I'm moving on to the next story. If someone wants to claim something, without being held accountable, then bless their motives.
     
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    How in the world could he keep that a secret? Or the NYT? Somebody would leak it imo.
     
  30. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    Regarding the NYT, it would be death to their business if it leaked. Plus I imagine some really legally tight non-disclosures etc were signed protecting their source. It happened and was contained, protected within watergate.

    There's going to be more leaks from this conspiracy. This is one crazy time..
     
  31. TheDude1

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    Yeah, this. The Times wouldn't leak. They are possibly the most respected, intense media source in history, and they know that protecting sources is ESSENTIAL. Plus, if you read about this one, apparently only like three or four people know who it is.
     
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    Hahaha! Seriously? The Times is the most respected? Yeah, ok.........................
     
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    Not that the essay contained anything unbelievable---its totally believable. But it took a huge set of plums to do it. I'm not sure what could happen if they somehow found out---other than losing the job. Is it illegal or anything?
     
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    No, it means that the insider is actually playing for Team Trump and will help take down the cabal of satanist/globalist/(((them))) that run the Deep State. We know that because "lodestar" is an anagram for "delator," a Latin term for a denouncer, and the Wikipedia article has "witch hunt" as a see also. Also something something Edgar Allen Poe. Do you not [think mirror]?

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  35. TheDude1

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    Oh, without question, that took nerve. A TON of nerve. That's part of why I really believe it... you KNOW that name will eventually come out, and then that person will face some judgement.

    Shouldn't be illegal? Like... what, slander or something?
     
  36. I am stupid

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    Am I mistaken, or haven't most/large number of these anonymous source stories the media has put out about trump been phony?
     
  37. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    Spin....mirror really? Pence used this term since 2001. I think you can take the op at face value. Trump is not an honorable person.. Never has been. Wasn't taught by his father to even be one.
     
  38. Jaycg15

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    Is it slander if it's true? It'd be rather ironic if someone on Trump's staff is prosecuted for making something up when that's 99% of what comes out of Donnie's mouth.
     
  39. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    Like what?
     
  40. BasketBallJunkie-UK

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    It could be deemed as sedition which is illegal.
     

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