"I dont like the justice system in America, so the guy explaining it to me must be an idiot."
Don't forget to salt the fries buddy.
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Don't forget to salt the fries buddy.
Manafort was arrested for unrelated crimes, not involving Russian Collusion. But sure, part of his laundering involved Russia. He hasn't flipped (yet) anyways. So I guess it doesn't matter. And the other ones you mentioned were arrested for crimes not involving Trump. Cohen was targeted only because he was a prime candidate for a flipping. Nothing to do with Russia. And his credibility is shaky at best.
So Manafort had shady dealings with Russians. That is called colluding with Russia, FYI.
Collusion: secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
Literally collusion is committing crimes with others and then trying to hide it. And the fact that all these guys were hiding something about Russia is some how not a huge red flag to some Americans is mindbogglingly crazy.
No. Not at all. I said already that if they find dirt on Trump, go with it. I just think that it was the goal from the beginning and that Russian collusion was just a cover. Like I said. Their tactics are smart, dishonest, but smart.
Being factually correct is moving the goal posts? As opposed to saying that "collecting evidence is bypassing the process of collecting evidence"? That is freaking RICH.
I am not a lawyer. I just work with them. But mostly prosecutors. I do not have any law school experience either. So, I don't think I would qualify as a law expert.
Yeah. It's moving the goalposts when you try and define collusion in a case that is not involved in the investigation being discussed.
"Manafort was arrested for unrelated crimes, not involving Russian Collusion". <-Factually untrue statement. It just wasn't election interference charges.
And its not just Manafort.
So many people around Trump were hiding information about with Russians. Hell, Flynn illegally met with a Russian ambassador to undermine the current admins sanctions. That is the textbook definition of colluding with Russia.
And its not just Manafort.
So many people around Trump were hiding information about with Russians. Hell, Flynn illegally met with a Russian ambassador to undermine the current admins sanctions. That is the textbook definition of colluding with Russia.
I didnt know McDonalds had “project managers.” Keep grinding man. Maybe someday you can get to working the drive through (doubtful).
You should tell Mueller that. I don't think he agrees with you.
What those people were arrested for was lying. Their interactions with the Russians weren’t illegal.
I think he would probably agree with me, since he had Flynn plead guilty to charges related to it. People always lie to the FBI about the totally legal things the do, right?
It is absolutely illegal. Have you heard of the Logan Act? It was just easier to convict for lying. Are you really this stupid?
Ahhh. I thought you were. I knew You worked with them. Just assumed. My fault.
If his legal analysis about flipping witnesses being "bypassing collecting evidence" didn't tip you off, you are even dumber than you seem.
Doesn’t seem like it’s any different that good old Obuma saying he’d have more flexibility after he was re-elected. And you know he was without a doubt “negotiating” with the Russians? Lol. Sure. “Just easier to convict for lying.” Good God. They would prosecute him for the breaking any law. Lol. So no, there’s absolutely no definitive information that claims Flynn broke the Logan Act. Yet here you are, pawning it off as fact.
You’re really, really bad at this.
You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to conclude that Manafort was arrested for "unrelated crimes". He was Trump's chief campaign manager and he volunteered to do it for free when he was flat broke and still owed a Russian mobster (Oleg Deripaska) millions of dollars. Mueller wants to know why. There's a reason Mueller is still managing the Manafort case and hasn't farmed that one out.
They were heavily involved in Trump's campaign and transition team. Same difference.
Mueller didn't go after Cohen, SDNY did, courtesy of the Stormy/Avenatti case. But now that he's been investigated, it was discovered he has info about Trump/Russia.
Uhh, you realize that while he was seeking reelection he was the sitting President of the United States and fully allowed to negotiate on behalf on the nation right? You really ARE stupid as you act. Wow..
I have refrained from insults, but you are one dense fool on this. You refuse to simply concede a little on a hair splitting issue.
Was Manafort arrested for any crimes that were committed while working for Trump's campaign?
Go ask your lawyer buddies if flipping witnesses would be considered "bypassing the collection of evidence". Because the one I just asked (not a prosecutor, but still) laughed at the question.
And I didn't insult you, just the stupid idea that you presented.
You still don’t get it. You still don’t get his point. You are a genuine idiot. Like first class idiot.
I read his statement word for word to a laywer and they laughed at his statement. I'll take the lawyers word for it over the guy who thinks a sitting President can violate the Logan Act.
Flynn didn’t break the Logan Act. Show me where he did. He was convicted for lying. Not breaking the Logan Act.
Now I know you’re lying. No lawyers work at the McDonalds drive through. Wait, did he come in and buy dinner from you? You serve him fries? Good on ya buddy.
Meeting with a foreign government to negotiate on behalf of the US when you don't have the legal authority to do so violates the Logan Act. He admitted to doing this. He was just not prosecuted for it. Do you even follow the news?
Are you really going to keep trying to use the same insult I already used on you to get a rise out of me? Try to at least come with something original, pathetic.
No he didn’t. Lol. Where did you see he admitted to breaking the Logan Act? Link please.
He lied about meeting Russians to discuss removing the sanctions. He later admitted that HE DID meet with them to discuss this. He didn't have legal authority to do this. Thus he violated the Logan Act. HE ADMITTED HE BROKE THE LAW. He just didn't have to plead guilty to the Logan Act because he wasn't charged (likely due to cooperating.)
A 4 year old can follow this logic...
I'm not going to say it isn't "the goal" of some in the CIA/FBI world to get Trump. After all, Trump has been attacking and belittling both institutions for a year and a half now. Agents are human too. I don't think that's the case with Mueller, though. His reputation is pretty much unassailable. His goal is the truth. Regardless, no one can be convicted in court because of bias - it takes tangible evidence, especially for a president.
Link please. Odd you wouldn’t provide one. Probably because it’s not out there.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2...nn_didn039t_violate_the_logan_act_428210.html
Whoops.
Rich Lowry is your source?
He's not even a journalist, but a political pundit.Just read the text of the Logan Act, its short enough that even you should be able to finish it.
Trump says he was fired for lying to Pence about this conversation but he was actually charged for denying it took place when questioned by the FBI.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.28bf28ca77f9
Where’s a link proving he broke the Logan Act? Weird you keep ignoring that. LolRich Lowry is your source?
Just read the text of the Logan Act, its short enough that even you should be able to finish it.
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