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That certainly is an opinion shared by just a few people. Have you seen his schedule? Dude is lazy bro
He may be a lazy person. But he is a very proactive president. Guess I would rather have a good president that eats big macs and drinks diet cokes than a lousy president that rides bicycles and drinks green tea.
 
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He may be a lazy person. But he is a very proactive president. Guess I would rather have a good president that eats big macs and drinks diet cokes than a lousy president that rides bicycles and drinks green tea.

The Healthiest President of All Time...oops another gaffee eer lie.
 
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One mans troll is another mans flat out lie about his health as he is looking to get the biggest job in the world.
W.H. doc said he was in great health. I laughed at that too. But not as hard as I laughed at cnn for making it out to be a huge deal. Really, it's pathetic how people were grasping at any hope that he was not healthy and then freaked out about his physical.
 
W.H. doc said he was in great health. I laughed at that too. But not as hard as I laughed at cnn for making it out to be a huge deal. Really, it's pathetic how people were grasping at any hope that he was not healthy and then freaked out about his physical.

When a presidential candidate who is looking to become the oldest President in history lies about his health, I think that's really ****ed up. The guy is applying for the biggest job in the world; you shouldn't be lying about your health and getting some doctor to go along with it. I find it a bit strange that you are laughing that off. When you apply for jobs, do you lie? I don't.
 
When a presidential candidate who is looking to become the oldest President in history lies about his health, I think that's really ****ed up. The guy is applying for the biggest job in the world; you shouldn't be lying about your health and getting some doctor to go along with it. I find it a bit strange that you are laughing that off. When you apply for jobs, do you lie? I don't.
Wipe those tears away little man. I know you're constantly triggered by all things Trump. Buckle up. You've got six plus years to go! :)
 
When a presidential candidate who is looking to become the oldest President in history lies about his health, I think that's really ****ed up. The guy is applying for the biggest job in the world; you shouldn't be lying about your health and getting some doctor to go along with it. I find it a bit strange that you are laughing that off. When you apply for jobs, do you lie? I don't.
Oddly enough, hilldogg was running to be the oldest president in history and she constantly lied or withheld the truth about her health. I wonder if you would be griping about that if she had won.

And, I really don't know, has it been proven that he lied about his health, or is it just assumed he lied about his health?

Such desperation, dude. Why?
 
I missed it. What is his health problems? I saw his original doctor said his letter was BS, but does he have actual health problems?
 
Like the one where Trump colluded with doctors to get elected?
Laughing

There was so much potential to dicuss odd conspiracy theories that not everybody knows or follows, but every fvcking off season thread turns political. There could be a thread of women in bikinis and a certain poster would turn it political.
 
Oddly enough, hilldogg was running to be the oldest president in history and she constantly lied or withheld the truth about her health. I wonder if you would be griping about that if she had won.

And, I really don't know, has it been proven that he lied about his health, or is it just assumed he lied about his health?

Such desperation, dude. Why?

Wait... what? She lied or withheld the truth about her health? What are you talking about? I'm looking online, and there is plenty about her... her triglycerides, her blood pressure, her mild bout of pneumonia, etc etc. What are you talking about? That she tried to work through a mild case of pneumonia?

Yes, his doctor admitted that Trump dictated the entire letter. When you say that you have a letter from your doctor about your health, and it is not from your doctor, that's lying, and it is literally lying to the American people in order to secure the most important job in the world. That's not hyperbole.

Listen, you asked me to answer things straight up. I did. I don't get why your response to this is "Hah hah, he trolled the media, that fake health report is funny!" and "Yeah, but Hillary!" Then you throw in some strange personal shot. I don't get why you get so mad at me for dodging this and not answering that, but its so hard to just get you to discuss stuff. Responses like that are why it is so hard to have a normal back and forth with you.
 
Wait... what? She lied or withheld the truth about her health? What are you talking about? I'm looking online, and there is plenty about her... her triglycerides, her blood pressure, her mild bout of pneumonia, etc etc. What are you talking about? That she tried to work through a mild case of pneumonia?

Yes, his doctor said that Trump dictated the entire letter.

Listen, you asked me to answer things straight up. I did. I don't get why your response to this is "Hah hah, he trolled the media, that fake health report is funny!" and "Yeah, but Hillary!" Then you throw in some strange personal shot. I don't get why you get so mad at me for dodging this and not answering that, but its so hard to just get you to discuss stuff. Responses like that are why it is so hard to have a normal back and forth with you.
Calm down dude. You are misreading everything about me if you think I actually get mad at anything here. I also don't see where I took a shot at you.

I am about to have to go in the courtroom, so sorry if this is short.

I laugh at it because it is desperation. That's it. You guys don't care about his health, you only want him to be unhealthy so he won't be president. I don't believe for one second that you truly care whether he lied about his medical report. You just don't like the guy.

I brought up hilldogg because it is a rebuttal to your accusations against Trump. I may look it up later, but she absolutely withheld health issues. She refused to go to a public hospital after her "heat exhaustion" spell on a scorching hot 70 degrees day so that nothing would leak to the public. Why do you believe her?
 
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Calm down dude. You are misreading everything about me if you think I actually get mad at anything here. I also don't see where I took a shot at you.

I am about to have to go in the courtroom, so sorry if this is short.

I laugh at it because it is desperation. That's it. You guys don't care about his health, you only want him to be unhealthy so he won't be president. I don't believe for one second that you truly care whether he lied about his medical report. You just don't like the guy.

I brought up hilldogg because it is a rebuttal to your accusations against Trump. I may look it up later, but she absolutely withheld health issues. She refused to go to a public hospital after her "heat exhaustion" spell on a scorching hot 70 degrees day so that nothing would leak to the public. Why do you believe her?

Uh... I'm pretty calm?

You accused me of griping, you accused me of being desperate... that all feels like shots.

When I say "mad" I mean that you started jumping on me like crazy for avoiding this and dodging that and tail between my legs... all of that is emotional language, so either you are upset or you are just trolling me. Things like what you wrote above... there's no need.

I ABSOLUTELY care about his health. Why WOULDN'T you? When John McCain ran, his age and health was definitely a part of the equation, especially given his VP pick. When Clinton was eating all that shit and courting a heart attack, that was a big deal. I ABSOLUTELY care that Trump LIED about his HEALTH, had his DOCTOR lie about his health, and I am STUNNED that you wouldn't care. That seems SO dishonest, and it seems to me that you have low to no basic standards for your leaders. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's just the way it is.

Yes, she had a mild case of pneumonia she was trying to work through. She got exhausted and was pushing too hard. They didn't make it public at first, because nobody does that... when was the last time you heard that a politician had a cold, or allergies, or whatever? That's it. Unless you know something I don't, that seems like a dodge.

Whatever, this sort of all feels like pointless wheel spinning. It's not like you've ever been like "Hey, good point" or anything, and the furthest you've ever really gone on Trump is "He should tweet less" or "Sometimes he says silly stuff that obscures his good points".
 
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And, I really don't know, has it been proven that he lied about his health, or is it just assumed he lied about his health?

Such desperation, dude. Why?
Releasing a faked report on his health qualifies as a lie.
What's desperate about saying so?
 
Uh... I'm pretty calm?

You accused me of griping, you accused me of being desperate... that all feels like shots.

When I say "mad" I mean that you started jumping on me like crazy for avoiding this and dodging that and tail between my legs... all of that is emotional language, so either you are upset or you are just trolling me. Things like what you wrote above... there's no need.

I ABSOLUTELY care about his health. Why WOULDN'T you? When John McCain ran, his age and health was definitely a part of the equation, especially given his VP pick. When Clinton was eating all that shit and courting a heart attack, that was a big deal. I ABSOLUTELY care that Trump LIED about his HEALTH, had his DOCTOR lie about his health, and I am STUNNED that you wouldn't care. That seems SO dishonest, and it seems to me that you have low to no basic standards for your leaders. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's just the way it is.

Yes, she had a mild case of pneumonia she was trying to work through. She got exhausted and was pushing too hard. They didn't make it public at first, because nobody does that... when was the last time you heard that a politician had a cold, or allergies, or whatever? That's it. Unless you know something I don't, that seems like a dodge.

Whatever, this sort of all feels like pointless wheel spinning. It's not like you've ever been like "Hey, good point" or anything, and the furthest you've ever really gone on Trump is "He should tweet less" or "Sometimes he says silly stuff that obscures his good points".
LOL! That's all I can muster on this nonsense. @TheDude1 thinks so highly of himself, doesn't he? At least someone does...
 
Uh... I'm pretty calm?

You accused me of griping, you accused me of being desperate... that all feels like shots.

When I say "mad" I mean that you started jumping on me like crazy for avoiding this and dodging that and tail between my legs... all of that is emotional language, so either you are upset or you are just trolling me. Things like what you wrote above... there's no need.

I ABSOLUTELY care about his health. Why WOULDN'T you? When John McCain ran, his age and health was definitely a part of the equation, especially given his VP pick. When Clinton was eating all that shit and courting a heart attack, that was a big deal. I ABSOLUTELY care that Trump LIED about his HEALTH, had his DOCTOR lie about his health, and I am STUNNED that you wouldn't care. That seems SO dishonest, and it seems to me that you have low to no basic standards for your leaders. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's just the way it is.

Yes, she had a mild case of pneumonia she was trying to work through. She got exhausted and was pushing too hard. They didn't make it public at first, because nobody does that... when was the last time you heard that a politician had a cold, or allergies, or whatever? That's it. Unless you know something I don't, that seems like a dodge.

Whatever, this sort of all feels like pointless wheel spinning. It's not like you've ever been like "Hey, good point" or anything, and the furthest you've ever really gone on Trump is "He should tweet less" or "Sometimes he says silly stuff that obscures his good points".
You are griping, and you are coming off as desperate. That's not really a personal shot in my book. If it is in yours, sorry? We'll move on from that.

I don't care about his health as long as he is able to run the country. There hasn't been anything to suggest that he is not fit for duty. You will probably disagree. It would not have been a deciding factor in my vote. My vote was going to go against hilldogg from day one. And right now, it is clear that it was a great choice.

I am not sure why you would believe that report about hilldogg's health. She is less credible than Trump. But I can't make you not believe and you can't make me believe, so we can move on from this as well.

I will say "hey good point" whenever you make one. I am sure I have before, not positive. It's weird that you need that from me. Why do I need to "go on Trump" . On the flip side, am I praising him?
 
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Releasing a faked report on his health qualifies as a lie.
What's desperate about saying so?
He is a racist! That didn't work. He is in bed with Putin. That didn't work. There are these women who can't prove they were ever around him and made thousands of dollars telling their stories. That didn't work. He said he grabbed pissies. That didn't work. He's going to start WWIII. That didn't work. Oh oh oh...... he lied about his medical report. We got him now.. that's desperation.
 
He is a racist! That didn't work. He is in bed with Putin. That didn't work. There are these women who can't prove they were ever around him and made thousands of dollars telling their stories. That didn't work. He said he grabbed pissies. That didn't work. He's going to start WWIII. That didn't work. Oh oh oh...... he lied about his medical report. We got him now.. that's desperation.
Who said anything about using it as leverage to get rid of him? When are conservatives going to hold him appropriately accountable for ANYTHING?
 
There hasn't been anything to suggest that he is not fit for duty.
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I didn't say the Native Americans ever invented anything, I'm just implying that they weren't a bunch of complete dumbasses. You don't survive for 10,000+ years without being at least somewhat competent. Especially in some of the extreme areas, like Utah, Arizona, North Dakota, etc.

US History books don't really provide much context into their history, other than trying to portray them as uncivilized savages that lived naked in the woods. We learned about Pocahontas (of which, the info was mostly false), Sacajawea, and maybe a couple of others.

They didn't teach us that the Natives had an expansive trading network that spanned across across the continent, or that they had built large cities (St. Louis) where different tribes would meet to trade and hold religious ceremonies, or that tribes like the Pueblo people have continuously inhabited cities in the Southwest since around the 12th century, or that the Hopi tribes have inhabited Arizona since around 700 a.d. (during the "dark ages" in Europe).
I don't know where you got your education on the Native American economy; however, you apparently have not studied the subject much.
 
I don't know where you got your education on the Native American economy; however, you apparently have not studied the subject much.

That's kind of the point.... Americans are taught very little about the natives of this continent. We learn more about the royal families in Italy and France, than we do about indigenous people who were here for thousands of years.
 
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Who said anything about using it as leverage to get rid of him? When are conservatives going to hold him appropriately accountable for ANYTHING?
Those things were meant to discourage people from voting for him.

What are conservatives supposed to hold him accountable for? Appropriate or not..
 
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How about starting with his lies? You and snu just troll anyone bringing them up.
How are they supposed to hold him accountable without knowing who his opponent is? Having pros and cons to weigh? America held hilldogg accountable by voting for Trump. Give us a candidate that has less cons than Trump.
 
How are they supposed to hold him accountable without knowing who his opponent is?
Opponent? I'm talking about today. Now. It has nothing to do w/ the mid-terms this fall, let alone w/ 2020. Call him out instead of glossing over it. You and snu are fond of separating his character from his policies, but only when you're backed into a corner. Why would you even need to do that when you can't even agree on a specific incident being unacceptable for no more apparent reason than antagonizing people who disagree w/ you on the policy stuff?
 
Opponent? I'm talking about today. Now. It has nothing to do w/ the mid-terms this fall, let alone w/ 2020. Call him out instead of glossing over it. You and snu are fond of separating his character from his policies, but only when you're backed into a corner. Why would you even need to do that when you can't even agree on a specific incident being unacceptable for no more apparent reason than antagonizing people who disagree w/ you on the policy stuff?
Okay. Forget 2020. How can I hold him accountable personally? How? Talk shit about him on Rivals?

Okay. I don't like that he says he's a Christian yet is a known adulterer. I don't like how he is so quick to celebrate a perceived victory. I don't like how he makes personal insults against people who go against him. (I won't lie though. I am amused by it sometimes) I wish our president didn't drink so many diet cokes.

I just don't know how to hold politicians accountable other than voting. So I am not sure why you guys want me to join you in your hate Trump party when his policies alone represent my values better than what the left is giving us. Like I said, give us a candidate that has less cons than Trump.
 
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Look...no matter how many lies we're fed about Gulf of Tonkin, Federal Reserve banking, WMDs, massacring innocent Vietnamese or the NSA collecting people's data, the majority will still accept anything the TV tells them and ridicule and ostracize anyone who doesn't. Like good little soldiers. Who needs Soma?
 
Holy shit, where do you get this crap from?

When I was a kid you could mail order an M-1 from Sears catalogue. I got a shot gun for my 8th birthday and a .22 pistol for my 12th birthday. Both came from Sears catalogue. Hell machine guns were not made illegal until 1934.

So, I want to see some proof that guns were controlled "since the beginning". Hell the old long guns were home made by gun smiths.
Point 1 - you may be old Bert but you weren’t around in 1800
Point 2 - I own several shotguns, a 22-.250, a couple of .22 rifles and 7.62 SKS. I bought the varmint rifle in 1976 in downtown Indy and walked right by the State House with a pretty accurate, powerfully scoped bolt action in full public view, no one blinked. I gave a speech in HS on the proper method of cleaning a Remington 870 pump shotgun with the shotgun as a prop.
Point 3 - northern of those points matter- gun control has been a fact before and after the nation was founded. Google is your friend. Google Gun Contril 1800 and educate yourself. I recommend the article from Duke University on the subject.
Cheers!
 
Okay. Forget 2020. How can I hold him accountable personally? How? Talk shit about him on Rivals?

Okay. I don't like that he says he's a Christian yet is a known adulterer. I don't like how he is so quick to celebrate a perceived victory. I don't like how he makes personal insults against people who go against him. (I won't lie though. I am amused by it sometimes) I wish our president didn't drink so many diet cokes.

I just don't know how to hold politicians accountable other than voting. So I am not sure why you guys want me to join you in your hate Trump party when his policies alone represent my values better than what the left is giving us. Like I said, give us a candidate that has less cons than Trump.
No one is pretending any of us has a Batphone to the Oval Office to hold him personally accountable. When he says something disgusting or irresponsible of the non-funny sort and people call him on it, agree with them instead of trolling. That's all.

Your vote is entirely on you, no one else.
 
No one is pretending any of us has a Batphone to the Oval Office to hold him personally accountable. When he says something disgusting or irresponsible of the non-funny sort and people call him on it, agree with them instead of trolling. That's all.

Your vote is entirely on you, no one else.
Trolling? Funny, because Q was trolling and I was just having fun while also being pretty truthful. Wonder why you didn't hold Q accountable for his troll.

You'v been trolling in the Wendell thread for almost 24 hours now.
 
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Trolling? Funny, because Q was trolling and I was just having fun while also being pretty truthful. Wonder why you didn't hold Q accountable for his troll.

You'v been trolling in the Wendell thread for almost 24 hours now.
I didn't notice Q's trolling. You're hardly ever doing anything else in these threads.

Yeah, it's about time I got a little acknowledgement for my work in the Wendell thread, which is a rare occurrence.
 
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