Big 12 is the best bball league and it isn’t a convo

[KStateFootball82]

Again….These are just facts and it’s been that way since 2018.

lowest average NET by like 10 points this year - by league play will be #1 RPI too.

 

[Tigerocker]

Think they have maybe the best team but the SEC has more teams in Top 25 . These are just facts.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Think they have maybe the best team but the SEC has more teams in Top 25 . These are just facts.

He said it's not a convo.

 

[Tigerocker]

He said it's not a convo.

Then why even post it ? wtf

 

[ExitFlagger]

Then why even post it ? wtf

Not.
A.
Convo.

 

[WestTexasRaider]

Yeah, don't anyone say a thing in here!


It's unconversational!

 

[jmmcgr02]

Think they have maybe the best team but the SEC has more teams in Top 25 . These are just facts.

The BIG 12 has 5 out of 10 teams ranked. The Sec has 6 out of 14. 50%>43%
The SEC also has more terrible teams at the bottom.
Big 12 worst team is #71 in Kenpom. The SEC has 5 teams >90.
Avg Ken Pom ranking Big 12 is 35, SEC is 60.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

The BIG 12 has 5 out of 10 teams ranked. The Sec has 6 out of 14. 50%>43%
The SEC also has more terrible teams at the bottom.
Big 12 worst team is #71 in Kenpom. The SEC has 5 teams >90.
Avg Ken Pom ranking Big 12 is 35, SEC is 60.

Isn't the Big 12 (fans) known for OOC kenpom rankings?

 

[CUJO_1970]

This forum is no place to have a conversation.

 

[coryfly]

 

[KUhawks34]

Really isn’t a debate either.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

The BIG 12 has 5 out of 10 teams ranked. The Sec has 6 out of 14. 50%>43%
The SEC also has more terrible teams at the bottom.
Big 12 worst team is #71 in Kenpom. The SEC has 5 teams >90.
Avg Ken Pom ranking Big 12 is 35, SEC is 60.

So Big12 is benefiting by how half a small conference is ranked, even though it's less teams?

"Big 12 has 5 of there top 10 teams ranked, SEC has 6."

That sounds a like a horrible spin of not having more than 5 teams ranked.

Did you include all the SEC teams when doing averages or just the top 10.

 

[ExitFlagger]

So Big12 is benefiting by how half a small conference is ranked, even though it's less teams?

"Big 12 has 5 of there top 10 teams ranked, SEC has 6."

That sounds a like a horrible spin of not having more than 5 teams ranked.

Did you include all the SEC teams when doing averages or just the top 10.

If you go by Kenpom, the Big 12 has two teams that are well above anyone in the SEC. And no truly bad teams. A middling Big 12 team has to play 4 games vs the Kenpom top 5 and 0 vs teams lower than 71, while a middling SEC team plays 0 vs the top 5 and a bunch of games vs cupcakes.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

If you go by Kenpom, the Big 12 has two teams that are well above anyone in the SEC. And no truly bad teams. A middling Big 12 team has to play 4 games vs the Kenpom top 5 and 0 vs teams lower than 71, while a middling SEC team plays 0 vs the top 5 and a bunch of games vs cupcakes.

We told you to lay off that Kenpom dick. But you kept sucking it like a broke hooker.

So when does Kenpom become relavant?

 

[KisteK]

Big XII, always wet

However this cycle's SEC, esp at the top, looks incredible..

Buckle up

 

[lurkeraspect84]

This forum is no place to have a conversation.

Some of the best threads over the years were titled "nm" and didn't have a topic.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

These are just facts.

I just noticed KSU is dead last in the Big12 standings.

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[KStateFootball82]

And was actually talking not just this year but in general. Since 2018 or so.

it’s supplanted the ACC for that title for now. Granted the ACC. B10 or big east could take it away.

and No, the sec isn’t there. Few ranked teams maybe but Tech and OU just handled Tennessee and Arky respectively.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

And was actually talking not just this year but in general. Since 2018 or so.

it’s supplanted the ACC for that title for now. Granted the ACC. B10 or big east could take it away.

and No, the sec isn’t there. Few ranked teams maybe but Tech and OU just handled Tennessee and Arky respectively.

Predictions on SEC/Big 12 Challenge? 2022 edition?


2022 Big 12/SEC Challenge – Saturday, January 29
Baylor at Alabama
Missouri at Iowa State
Kentucky at Kansas
Kansas State at Ole Miss
Oklahoma at Auburn
Oklahoma State at Florida
LSU at TCU
Tennessee at Texas
Mississippi State at Texas Tech
West Virginia at Arkansas

SEC can spot one as you know it's near impossible to win at AFH.

Will you accept the outcome? No bs excuses about matchups?

 

[wesr]

Predictions on SEC/Big 12 Challenge? 2022 edition?


2022 Big 12/SEC Challenge – Saturday, January 29
Baylor at Alabama
Missouri at Iowa State
Kentucky at Kansas
Kansas State at Ole Miss
Oklahoma at Auburn
Oklahoma State at Florida
LSU at TCU
Tennessee at Texas
Mississippi State at Texas Tech
West Virginia at Arkansas

SEC can spot one as you know it's near impossible to win at AFH.

Will you accept the outcome? No bs excuses about matchups?

Oklahoma and Kansas already have 2 wins against the SEC.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Oklahoma and Kansas already have 2 wins against the SEC.

Do they count?

I feel like you all are moving into a shady zone.

Has other SEC/Big 12 teams played?

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Just have to accept the new line of thinking. B1G/ACC isn't a be all.

Makes sense. Lets call it all and not just a tournament/production.

 

[KStateFootball82]

Oklahoma and Kansas already have 2 wins against the SEC.

forgetting tx tech’s win @ Tenneseee.

ou handled Arky on a neutral court. Granted was in OKC but still technically neutral. Ton of Arky fans were there

 

[ExitFlagger]

The BIG 12 has already owned the SEC and the Challenge hasn't even begun. Got some ground to make up, boys.

 

[hawkit3113]

Rinky dink conference

 

[Clonewithasigh]

Rinky dink conference

Agreed but hang in there as the B10 may not turn out to be as bad as you think.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Rinky dink conference

Before I like this, which one?

 

[Kevin Bryan]

forgetting tx tech’s win @ Tenneseee.

ou handled Arky on a neutral court. Granted was in OKC but still technically neutral. Ton of Arky fans were there

Did you conveniently forget that Arky beat Kansas State?

Also OU beat Florida and TCU beat A&M.

Buuuut, I think the SEC wins the Challenge.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Did you conveniently forget that Arky beat Kansas State?

Also OU beat Florida and TCU beat A&M.

Buuuut, I think the SEC wins the Challenge.

Who do you see winning?

I'd give the edge to Baylor, Iowa St, KU, Tech and Texas in the Big 12. In the SEC, I'd give the edge to Auburn, Florida, and LSU. I think K-State/Miss and WV/Ark are toss-ups. Being at home, maybe the edge goes to the SEC in those two. Even if they take both, I think the Big 12 would have a good shot at winning 5.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Who do you see winning?

I'd give the edge to Baylor, Iowa St, KU, Tech and Texas in the Big 12. In the SEC, I'd give the edge to Auburn, Florida, and LSU. I think K-State/Miss and WV/Ark are toss-ups. Being at home, maybe the edge goes to the SEC in those two. Even if they take both, I think the Big 12 would have a good shot at winning 5.

I like all but one of the home teams. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a tie or 6-4 for either conference. Don't see it being 7-3 or worse either way.

Baylor at Alabama
Missouri at Iowa State
Kentucky at Kansas
Kansas State at Ole Miss
Oklahoma at Auburn
Oklahoma State at Florida
LSU at TCU
Tennessee at Texas
Mississippi State at Texas Tech
West Virginia at Arkansas

 

[toonces11]

Who gives a sh*t. If Kansas doesn't win its game, I hope everyone loses. Im petty like that.

 

[della]

How did the SEC beat the Big 12 in the Challenge last year considering it happened after 2018?

I know I can't converse or debate about it, but is a question OK?

 

[hawkit3113]

Before I like this, which one?

Come on man, the shit 12

 

[dukedevilz]

Whatever happens is going to benefit the Big 12 because if they do lose it will be in conference
SEC has a chance to change that.
But...
Big 12 could go maybe 9-1 in that. We will give them K State

Anyone remember this tweet? A month before the challenge Sheriff was surmising that the Big 12 could win 9 of the 10 games in the Big 12/SEC Challenge. And yet, they lost the challenge.

The metrics look really good with the Big 12 right now. Worst team is ranked 70th by KenPom. So, every road game is a Quad 1 Game. Kind of unreal. They appear to be the best conference, yes. But at the same time, the sample size for OOC games is always going to be relatively low. And teams don't look the same in March as they do in November or December... Crazy stat, which might make some pause a bit, is the Big 12 has only had 1 representative in each of the last two tournaments advance to the Sweet 16.

But as of right now, Baylor and Kansas both look like legit National Title contenders.

 

[ExitFlagger]

I like all but one of the home teams. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a tie or 6-4 for either conference. Don't see it being 7-3 or worse either way.

Baylor at Alabama
Missouri at Iowa State
Kentucky at Kansas
Kansas State at Ole Miss
Oklahoma at Auburn
Oklahoma State at Florida
LSU at TCU
Tennessee at Texas
Mississippi State at Texas Tech
West Virginia at Arkansas

Alabama has the talent to beat Baylor and obviously it's a home game, but I don't see any reason to favor them at this point. Baylor's been dominant and Bama's been really inconsistent.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Again….These are just facts and it’s been that way since 2018.

lowest average NET by like 10 points this year - by league play will be #1 RPI too.

This would be like me posting a thread hyping up the Big East. Who gives a shit how good your conference is when you're at the bottom of it?

 

[WestTexasRaider]

I can't wait to add Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, and BYU to this league.

 

[hawkit3113]

I can't wait to add Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, and BYU to this league.

Football Powerhouse!!!!!

 

[ExitFlagger]

This would be like me posting a thread hyping up the Big East. Who gives a shit how good your conference is when you're at the bottom of it?

Ever met an Iowa fan?

 

[WestTexasRaider]

Football Powerhouse!!!!!

We aspire for B1G heights of success!