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As of Today, Rank Your Top 5 Teams Most Likely to Win the Tourney

For general purposes, the team that made the Final Four 5 years ago doesn’t spend an entire week answering media questions about what’s it like to make it to the first final four in school history. It also likely means they play for a program where deep NCAAT runs are expected and they won’t just be happy and in awe that they made it to the Final Four.

In this specific example, Purdue has Carsen Edwards and Tennessee doesn’t. Of course, I didn’t even include Purdue in my top 5 most likely (or even top 6), so wtf are you whining about? They aren’t “on my list.”

Virginia is on a mission after last year’s embarrassment. They are also just way better than Tennessee.
So your reasoning for your statement about teams not winning it all because they hadn't previously been to a FF is because the questions they have to answer in interviews? Wow.
I don't get the difference between answering that question and all the other dumb questions the media asks.
As far as Purdue, yeah, they have Carson Edwards, but that's it. you know what they don't have? They don't have a Grant Williams, Admiral Schofield, PJ Washington, Reid Travis or anyone else that can beat bigger teams on the boards. Haarms is a nice player at home feeding off the crowd, but he isn't going to do crap against the bigs on any legit title contending team.
Then you have Virginia, they are a legit contender, but they can't win according to you. They havehav been to a final four in a thousand years and they lost to a 16 seed last year. Do you have any idea how many stupid questions those players would have to answer?
I gotta tell ya, I've never heard a legit analyst say that media questions were going to be the reason a certain team wouldn't or couldn't win it all. This is a new metric.
 
So you skated around the most important part. Why does a team have to have been to a FF previously before they can win a title? That might be the dumbest thing I've read on here by a mile.
My 5 teams:
Duke
UVA
Michigan
UK
MSU

I think UT and Gonzaga are just outside of that.

I guess it has to be Michigan that wins the title huh? They're the only ones that have players that have been to a FF. Darn.

1. I didn’t say a team, I said a program. Big difference between the two.

2. So you have 4 of the same 5 teams as me? Lol. Basically, you’re butt hurt because I didn’t include UK. Pretty much what I figured.
 
So your reasoning for your statement about teams not winning it all because they hadn't previously been to a FF is because the questions they have to answer in interviews? Wow.
I don't get the difference between answering that question and all the other dumb questions the media asks.
As far as Purdue, yeah, they have Carson Edwards, but that's it. you know what they don't have? They don't have a Grant Williams, Admiral Schofield, PJ Washington, Reid Travis or anyone else that can beat bigger teams on the boards. Haarms is a nice player at home feeding off the crowd, but he isn't going to do crap against the bigs on any legit title contending team.
Then you have Virginia, they are a legit contender, but they can't win according to you. They havehav been to a final four in a thousand years and they lost to a 16 seed last year. Do you have any idea how many stupid questions those players would have to answer?
I gotta tell ya, I've never heard a legit analyst say that media questions were going to be the reason a certain team wouldn't or couldn't win it all. This is a new metric.

Look, I don’t know why first time Final Four programs seem to come up short in the Final Four. It’s not like I have anything to do with it. It’s just a fact that more often than not they do. Two first time Final Four programs in nearly 60 years have won the title? Seems like there is something to it. You can argue until your blue in the face, doesn’t change the facts.

Also, I listed UVA as one of my 5 most likely teams to win it. God your reading comprehension sucks.
 
This is more or less just reiterating what GE Nole said - but complaining about UNC and Purdue is complaining about the #7 and #8 KenPom teams.

UNC has tons of talent. Sure they've had some bad losses, but they've also looked very good at times. Has no team with bad losses ever made the Final Four?

Purdue has really improved over the course of the season. KP has their O as 5th in the country, when it's clicking I think it could be better than that. Their D needs to be better to make the Final Four, but it's shown flashes - I thought it looked very good for most of the game against MSU. Point guard is the most important position in March and they have a point guard that can single handedly keep them in games.

Note - I didn't pick Purdue in my five, just saying I think it's far from a crazy pick.....Houston on the other hand :)
 
unc has Roy Williams. Coaching experience is as important as player experience. I don't know how far unc can go in the tournament, but they share the ball very well and they are an elite rebounding team. When they are making their shots, they can beat anyone. Not sure why it is so outlandish to give them a fighter's chance. I don't know anything about Purdue other than I would never bet on them in March.

I would go, in no particular order:

Duke
Kentucky
Michigan State
Michigan
Virginia
 
Ok again not knocking MSU, but your best win is Purdue at home?

Apply that to other top teams. The problem with college basketball and college football in regards to SOS arguments is that most teams don’t have a ton of great wins. Most wins are against average to bad teams. There’s a lack of parity in comparison to pro sports.

MSU has a bunch of Quad 1 wins. Some better than others but yeah we lost on the road to Louisville, at Purdue, and a neutral site with Kansas when they had Azimbuque (sp). That team doesn’t exist though due to injury. So I don’t know what that says about MSU but I think MSU is a pretty good team. I’d say in the 5-10 range. I think we’re looking at a 2 seed at the moment. Is saying a 2 seed (currently) winning the NCAA tournament that big of a stretch?
 
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.....U6 won't see the 2nd weekend of the tournament, Blockhead. You clowns lost to Pitt and IU for God's sake.
 
What's the difference between a team that hasn't been to a final four in 5 years and one that has never been to a final four?
None of the players on either scenario has ever been to a FF, so why does that matter?
Remember, you have Purdue on your list.
Also, Virginia is on your list, when is the last time they made a FF?
1984
 
1. I didn’t say a team, I said a program. Big difference between the two.

2. So you have 4 of the same 5 teams as me? Lol. Basically, you’re butt hurt because I didn’t include UK. Pretty much what I figured.
No, I couldn't care less whether you have UK on there or not.

Also, I don't see UNC and Purdue on my list anywhere, those were the two teams I questioned.

Back to the funniest part though. Please explain to me why a program must have been to a final four before they can win a title? Why does that matter? The players on the team are all that matters.
When I look at Tennessee, they have some players on their team that are as tough as anyone in the country. They get angry when they get punched in the mouth, but you're telling me that they won't win the title because they're program has never been to a final four??? That doesn't sound silly to you?
 
Okay, so nobody currently in that program was at UVA in 1984. By Nole's logic, they can't win it all. What's the difference between never getting to a FF and not getting to a FF for the last 34 years?
 
Not sure bout all these kenpom, net, rpi blah, blah, blah ratings.

I look at who's in the top ten in offense and defense. Also how many 1st round nba draft picks a team has.

Sometimes they just need to pass the eye test...
 
Not sure bout all these kenpom, net, rpi blah, blah, blah ratings.

I look at who's in the top ten in offense and defense. Also how many 1st round nba draft picks a team has.

Sometimes they just need to pass the eye test...

Who has Kentucky beat that has passed your eye test?

Current teams that are Top-10 in offense and defense:

Virginia: Offf: 2, Def: 2
Duke: Off 4, Def 5
MSU: Off 7, Def 6
 
We did lose at Louisville, without our starting SG and best defender.

Kentucky lost to non-Tournament teams Seton Hall and Alabama, and were completely embarrassed by Duke.


Leading off, it's not a good look giving excuses as to why you lost to U6.

Secondly, UK's only 3 losses you mentioned are all that they have.... and you choose to ignore the wins over ranked teams like Auburn, Miss St, UNC and KU.

0/10 effort.
 
Only one team from Michigan can be good. We are going to find out which one of you guys are overrated
 
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So many dudes caught up in the metrics because they don't know what they're watching when they watch a basketball game (if they do).
 
Leading off, it's not a good look giving excuses as to why you lost to U6.

Secondly, UK's only 3 losses you mentioned are all that they have.... and you choose to ignore the wins over ranked teams like Auburn, Miss St, UNC and KU.

0/10 effort.

OK bud... MSU has 3 losses as well. All 3 of them to actual tournament teams, though.

MSU has more Quad 1 wins than Kentucky (8 vs 5).

MSU has more Quad 2 wins than Kentucky (4 vs 2).

MSU has no losses to non-NCAAT teams, Kentucky has 2.

MSU is ranked higher in NET, KenPom, and pretty much every other ranking out there.
 
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OK bud... MSU has 3 losses as well. All 3 of them to actual tournament teams, though.

MSU has more Quad 1 wins than Kentucky (8 vs 5).

MSU has more Quad 2 wins thank Kentucky (4 vs 2).

MSU has no losses to non-NCAAT teams, Kentucky has 2.

MSU is ranked higher in NET, KenPom, and pretty much every other ranking out there.

Good thing it's still JANUARY.
 
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