5th Annual College Basketball Draft

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Alright, here are three lists of the top 100 players. A lot of the same players are up towards the top. But after the top 15 or so, there's not a whole lot of consistency.


The News-Gazette top 100
1. Johnny Juzang, UCLA
2. Drew Timme Gonzaga
3. Kofi Cockburn, Illinois
4. Paolo Banchero, Duke
5. EJ Liddell, Ohio State
6. Chet Holmgren, Gonzaga
7. Marcus Carr, Texas
8. Trevion Williams, Purdue
9. Hunter Dickinson, Michigan
10. Max Abmas, Oral Roberts
11. Remy Martin, Kansas
12. Kendric Davis, SMU
13. Collin Gillespie Villanova
14. Julian Champagnie, St.John's
15. Andre Curbelo, Illinois
16. Jaden Ivey, Purdue
17. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana
18. Alex Barcello, BYU
19. Buddy Boeheim, Syracuse
20. Scotty Pippen, Vanderbilt
21. Jahvon Quinerly, Alabama
22. Jaden Shackelford, Alabama
23. Tyson Etienne, Wichita State
24. Emoni Bates, Memphis
25. Terrence Shannon, Texas Tech
26. Grant Sherfield, Nevada
27. DeVante' Jones, Michigan
28. Adam Flagler, Baylor
29. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
30. Kellan Grady, Kentucky
31. Jalen Duren, Memphis
32. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky
33. Patrick Baldwin, Milwaukee
34. Caleb Houstan, Michigan
35. Andrew Nembhard, Gonzaga
36. AJ Griffin, Duke
37. Kennedy Chandler, Tennessee
38. Jaime Jaquez, UCLA
39. Tre Mitchell, Texas
40. TyTy Washington, Kentucky
41. Dawson Garcia, North Carolina
42. Jermaine Samuels, Villanova
43. Caleb Mills, Florida State
44. Matthew Mayer, Baylor
45. Timmy Allen, Texas
46. Kenneth Lofton, Louisiana Tech
47. James Akinjo, Baylor
48. Sahvir Wheeler, Kentucky
49. Marcus Sasser, Houston
50. Justin Moore, Villanova
51. Tyger Campbell, UCLA
52. Kyle Lofton, St. Bonaventure
53. Kevin Obanor, Texas Tech
54. Caleb Love, North Carolina
55. Bennedict Mathruin, Arizona
56. David Roddy, Colorado State
57. Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
58. Max Christie, Michigan State
59. Isiahih Mosley, Missouri State
60. Iverson Molinar, Mississippi State
61. Jayden Gardner, Virginia
62. Posh Alexander, St.John's
63. Nate Watson, Providence
64. Azuolas Tubelis, Arizona
65. Marcus Bagley, Arizona State
66. Andrew Jones, Texas
67. Ochai Agbaji, Kansas
68. Keve Aluma, Virginia Tech
69. Michael Devoe, Georgia Tech
70. Ron Harper, Rutgers
71. Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
72. Myreon Jones, Florida
73. Matt Bradley, San Diego State
74. Will Richardson, Oregon
75. Johni Broome, Morehead State
76. Landers Nolley, Memphis
77. JD Davison, Alabama
78. Peyton Watson, UCLA
79. Jabari Smith, Auburn
80. Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
81. Antoine Davis, Detroit
82. Paul Scruggs, Xavier
83. Keith Williams, Western Kentucky
84. Isaiah Wong, Miami
85. Colin Castleton, Florida
86. Bryce Hamilton, UNLV
87. AJ Green, Northern Iowa
88. Trent Frazier, Illinois
89. Eric Ayala, Maryland
90. Taevion Kinsey, Marshall
91. Adama Sanogo, UConn
92. Prentiss Hubb, Notre Dame
93. Chris Lykes, Arkansas
94. Kendall Brown, Baylor
95. Kyler Edwards, Houston
96. Zach Freemantle, Xavier
97. Jamaree Bouyea, San Francisco
98. RJ Cole, UConn
99. Zach Edey, Purdue
100. Darius Perry, UCF


Making the Madness Top 100 (before Emoni Bates & Jalen Duren reclassified)
1.Drew Timme – Junior, Gonzaga
2.Johnny Juzang – Junior, UCLA
3.Paolo Banchero – Freshman, Duke
4.Chet Holmgren – Freshman, Gonzaga
5.Kofi Cockburn, Junior, Illinois
6.Hunter Dickinson – Sophomore, Michigan
7.Trayce Jackson-Davis – Junior, Indiana
8.Max Abmas, Junior, Oral Roberts
9.Jaden Ivey – Sophomore, Purdue
10.EJ Liddell – Junior, Ohio State
11.Collin Gillespie – Senior, Villanova
12.Julian Champagnie – Junior, St. John’s
13.Marcus Sasser – Junior, Houston
14.Ochai Agbaji – Senior, Kansas
15.Marcus Carr – Senior, Texas
16.Trevion Williams – Senior, Purdue
17.Grant Sherfield – Junior, Nevada
18.Jabari Smith – Freshman, Auburn
19.David McCormack – Senior, Kansas
20.Caleb Love – Sophomore, North Carolina
21.Devo Davis – Sophomore, Arkansas
22.Buddy Boeheim – Senior, Syracuse
23.Tyson Etienne – Junior, Wichita State
24.Patrick Baldwin Jr. – Freshman, Milwaukee
25.Alex Barcello – Senior, BYU
26.Kennedy Chandler – Freshman, Tennessee
27.Jaden Shackelford – Junior, Alabama
28.Kellan Grady – Senior, Kentucky
29.Terrence Shannon Jr. – Junior, Texas Tech
30.Keve Aluma – Senior, Virginia Tech
31.Jaime Jaquez Jr. – Junior, UCLA
32.Matthew Mayer – Senior, Baylor
33.Jahvon Quinerly – Junior, Alabama
34.Caleb Houstan – Freshman, Michigan
35.Mike Miles, Sophomore, TCU
36.Kenric Davis – Senior, SMU
37.Justin Moore – Junior, Villanova
38.Osun Osunniyi – Senior, St. Bonaventure
39.TyTy Washington – Freshman, Kentucky
40.JD Davison – Freshman, Alabama
41.Scotty Pippen Jr – Junior, Vanderbilt
42.Nijel Pack – Sophomore, Kansas State
43.Landers Nolley – Junior, Memphis
44.Peyton Watson – Freshman, UCLA
45.Remy Martin – Senior, Kansas
46.Mark Williams – Sophomore, Duke
47.Courtney Ramey – Senior, Texas
48.Jabari Walker – Sophomore, Colorado
49.Jermaine Samuels – Senior, Villanova
50.Isiaih Mosley – Junior, Missouri State
51.James Akinjo – Senior, Baylor
52.Ron Harper Jr – Senior, Rutgers
53.Armando Bacot – Junior, North Carolina
54.Will Richardson – Senior, Oregon
55.Avery Anderson – Junior, Oklahoma State
56.Kendall Brown – Freshman, Baylor
57.Iverson Molinar – Junior, Mississippi State
58.Isaiah Mobley – Junior, USC
59.Trent Frazier – Senior, Illinois
60.AJ Griffin – Freshman, Duke
61.Andrew Nembhard – Senior, Gonzaga
62.Antoine Davis – Senior, Detroit
63.Mike DeVoe – Junior, Georgia Tech
64.Kenneth Lofton Jr. – Sophomore, Louisiana Tech
65.Chris Lykes – Senior, Arkansas
66.Quincy Guerrier – Junior, Oregon
67.Marcus Bagley – Sophomore, Arizona State
68.David Roddy – Junior, Colorado State
69.Javonte Perkins – Senior, Saint Louis
70.Oscar Tshiebwe – Junior, Kentucky
71.Nate Watson – Senior, Providence
72.Caleb Mills – Sophomore, Florida State
73.Max Christie – Freshman, Michigan State
74.Jacob Gilyard – Senior, Richmond
75.Jacob Young – Senior, Oregon
76.Myreon Jones – Senior, Florida
77.Azuolas Tubelis – Sophomore, Arizona
78.Chuck Harris – Sophomore, Butler
79.Johni Broome – Sophomore, Morehead State
80.Tanner Groves – Senior, Oklahoma
81.Michael Flowers – Senior, Washington State
82.Paul Scruggs – Senior, Xavier
83.Jalen Wilson – Sophomore, Kansas
84.Dawson Garcia – Sophomore, North Carolina
85.Matt Bradley – Senior, San Diego State
86.DeVante’ Jones – Senior, Michigan
87.Timmy Allen – Senior, Texas
88.Nick Muszynski – Senior, Belmont
89.Hunter Sallis – Freshman, Gonzaga
90.Kevin Obanor – Senior, Texas Tech
91.Taz Sherman – Senior, West Virginia
92.Isaiah Wong – Junior, Miami
93.DeAndre Williams – Senior, Memphis
94.Zach Freemantle – Junior, Xavier
95.Isaiah Stevens – Junior, Colorado State
96.Qudes Wahab – Junior, Maryland
97.Allen Flanigan – Junior, Auburn
98.Roman Penn – Senior, Drake
99.Matthew Cleveland – Freshman, Florida State
100.Andre Curbello – Sophomore, Illinois


Three Man Weave Top 100
1. Drew Timme, Gonzaga
2. Kofi Cockburn, Illinois
3. Chet Holmgren, Gonzaga
4. Paolo Banchero, Duke
5. EJ Liddell, Ohio State
6. Hunter Dickinson
7. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana
8. Collin Gillespie
9. Trevion Williams, Purdue
10. Johnny Juzang, UCLA
11. Marcus Carr, Texas
12. Kendric Davis, SMU
13. Emoni Bates, Memphis
14. Max Abmas, Oral Roberts
15. Jaden Ivey, Purdue
16. Andre Curbelo, Illinois
17. Patrick Baldwin, Milwaukee
18. Remy Martin, Kansas
19. Alex Barcello, BYU
20. Julian Champagnie, St.John's
21. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
22. Jahvon Quinerly, Alabama
23. Andrew Nembhard, Gonzaga
24. Scotty Pippen, Vanderbilt
25. Kennedy Chandler, Tennessee
26. Adam Flagler, Baylor
27. Tre Mitchell, Texas
28. Jaden Shackelford, Alabama
29. Keve Aluma, Virginia Tech
30. Marcus Sasser, Houston
31. Kellan Grady, Kentucky
32. Matthew Mayer, Baylor
33. Dawson Garcia, North Carolina
34. Bennedict Mathurin, Arizona
35. Matt Bradley, San Diego State
36. Terrence Shannon, Texas Tech
37. Caleb Houstan, Michigan
38. Will Richardson, Oregon
39. Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
40. Jalen Duren, Memphis
41. Ochai Agbaji, Kansas
42. TyTy Washington, Kentucky
43. James Akinjo, Baylor
44. Tyson Etienne, Wichita State
45. Tyger Campbell, UCLA
46. Jalen Wilson, Kansas
47. Grant Sherfield, Nevada
48. David McCormack, Kansas
49. Buddy Boeheim, Syracuse
50. Paul Scruggs, Xavier
51. Andrew Jones, Texas
52. Jayden Gardner, Virginia
53. Colin Castleton, Florida
54. Sahvir Wheeler, Kentucky
55. Kenneth Lofton, Louisiana Tech
56. DeAndre Williams, Memphis
57. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky
58. Caleb Love, North Carolina
59. Jabari Smith, Auburn
60. Isaiah Mobley, USC
61. Caleb Mills, Florida State
62. JD Davison, Alabama
63. Jaime Jaquez, UCLA
64. David Roddy, Colorado State
65. Darius Days, LSU
66. Kyle Lofton, St.Bonaventure
67. Ron Harper, Rutgers
68. Harrison Ingram, Stanford
69. Michael Devoe, Georgia Tech
70. Azuolas Tubelis, Arizona
71. Antoine Davis, Detroit
72. Posh Alexander, St.John's
73. Devo Davis, Arkansas
74. Justin Moore, Villanova
75. Jermaine Samuels, Villanova
76. Osun Osunniyi, St.Bonaventure
77. Kadary Richmond, Seton Hall
78. RJ Cole, UConn
79. Keith Williams, Western Kentucky
80. Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
81. Quincy Guerrier, Oregon
82. Jamaree Bouyea, San Francisco
83. Kihei Clark, Virginia
84. Iverson Molinar, Mississippi State
85. Jordan Bohannon, Iowa
86. Mark Williams, Duke
87. Anthony Polite, Florida State
88. Walker Kessler, Auburn
89. DeVante' Jones, Michigan
90. Eric Ayala, Maryland
91. Kendall Brown, Baylor
92. AJ Green, Northern Iowa
93. Jabari Walker, Colorado
94. Noah Williams, Washington State
95. Nate Watson, Providence
96. Bryce Hamilton, UNLV
97. Kyler Edwards, Houston
98. Mike Miles, TCU
99. Tyson Walker, Michigan State
100. John Fulkerson
 

dukedevilz

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Also, I'm thinking about using a simulator to decide the draft order. Maybe taking the average of three simulations

I'm going to do this tomorrow using the Fantasy Sports Random Draft Order Generator.

There will be three simulations. I'll take the average to decide the draft order. I get nervous that my name might pop up first in a one-time simulation. I think three simulations builds credibility, if nothing else. I will be sure to post screenshots of the results.

In the event that two or three posters, whatever it may be, are tied, I'll do a a sudden death round. Might wait an additional day to do the simulation. Build that head-to-head up a little bit... And then we'll start the draft on Monday, October 11th. That should give everyone sufficient time to evaluate the players.

Thursday: Draft Order Revealed
Friday: Sudden Death Rounds, If Necessary
Monday: 1st Pick is on the clock. Remember, you have 24 hours to draft and then the next poster is welcome to skip in front of you.
Midnight on Tuesday: 2nd Pick can select 1st, if the poster with the first overall pick hasn't already made their decision
 

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When it is available, post your league's preseason media poll. Here is the B1G:

Big Ten preseason player of the year​

Kofi Cockburn, Illinois (11)

Also receiving votes: Jaden Ivey, Purdue (5); E.J. Liddell, Ohio State, (4); Hunter Dickinson, Michigan, and Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana, (3); Trevion Williams, Purdue (2).

Big Ten preseason freshman of the year​

Caleb Houstan, Michigan (20)

Also receiving votes: Max Christie, Michigan State (7); Bryce McGowens, Nebraska (1).

Big Ten preseason all-conference team​

Kofi Cockburn, Illinois (27)

E.J. Liddell, Ohio State (26)

Hunter Dickinson, Michigan (25)

Jaden Ivey, Purdue (21)

Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana (20)

Also receiving votes: Trevion Williams, Purdue (10); Eric Ayala, Maryland (4); Andre Curbelo, Illinois, and DeVante' Jones, Michigan (2); Geo Baker and Ron Harper Jr., Rutgers, and Caleb Houstan, Michigan (1).
 

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I like how organized it is. Already ppl are sharing tools with their sworn enemies.

To be the best, you have to beat the best.

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dukedevilz

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Three simulations. Here we go...

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Averages
1. @JimboBBN , 3.67
2. @MGC_07 , 4.67

3. @WojoRising , 5.00
3. @Noahtogo24, 5.00

5. @Jaycg15 , 6.33
5. @GE Nole , 6.33


7. @hailtoyourvictor , 6.67
8. dukedevilz, 7.00

9. @duckboy33 , 7.33
9. @WeAreDePaul , 7.33


11. @boilerzz , 8.67
12. @FaithPlusOne , 10.00

The posters in bold will have three separate sudden death rounds to determine the final draft position.

Jimbo gets the coveted #1 positoin. I think MGC_07 had the #2 spot last year, as well. FaithPlusOne will go last in Round One, but will have the first pick in Round Two.
 

boilerzz

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Three simulations. Here we go...

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Averages
1. @JimboBBN , 3.67
2. @MGC_07 , 4.67

3. @WojoRising , 5.00
3. @Noahtogo24, 5.00

5. @Jaycg15 , 6.33
5. @GE Nole , 6.33


7. @hailtoyourvictor , 6.67
8. dukedevilz, 7.00

9. @duckboy33 , 7.33
9. @WeAreDePaul , 7.33


11. @boilerzz , 8.67
12. @FaithPlusOne , 10.00

The posters in bold will have three separate sudden death rounds to determine the final draft position.

Jimbo gets the coveted #1 positoin. I think MGC_07 had the #2 spot last year, as well. FaithPlusOne will go last in Round One, but will have the first pick in Round Two.
Well that's less than ideal. Looks like I'm going to have to work a little harder to repeat this year.
 

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Don’t love being 2 again. I just don’t see a ton of separation from the top group, but I think I know who I’m going to go with.
 

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If both parties agree before the draft, are we allowed to switch our draft placements?
 

dukedevilz

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Don’t love being 2 again. I just don’t see a ton of separation from the top group, but I think I know who I’m going to go with.

Feel free to trade your draft position, if you can find someone. boilerzz sounds like he'd prefer to draft higher, but you may not want to go all the way down to #11.

Feel pretty good about who I’ll get at either 3 or 4

Those are prime positions, IMO. The top 4 dogs seem to be Timme, Chet, Kofi, and Paolo. Maybe Hunter Dickinson, too. So, you'll obviously get a very quality first pick.

Well that's less than ideal. Looks like I'm going to have to work a little harder to repeat this year.

Feel like the only rounds where people actually steal your top available player are rounds 1-3. After round 3, you'll almost always have your top prospect still sitting on the draft board. Those first 3 rounds are really crucial, of course. But, you did get Jalen Suggs in Round 4 and Quentin Grimes in Round 7 last year.

I drafted Mikal Bridges in Round 7 in Year 1. Got Jarret Culver in Round 7 the following year. WeAreDePaul got Obi Toppin in Round 9, I believe. Nobody even drafted Luka Garza in 2020. Lots of gems can be found in the latter rounds.
 
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@WojoRising @Noahtogo24 if either of you want to draft 2 I will swap with you.

You can guarantee yourself your choice of Kofi, Chet, or Paulo. I’m only trading down because I don’t have enough conviction on who I think is the best, but if any of you do you can jump ahead and get which you prefer.
 
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dammit I get screwed as usual.

I guess 9/10 is better than 11 which is where I would've been drafting if we stuck to how we did it last few years.
 

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@WojoRising @Noahtogo24 if either of you want to draft 2 I will swap with you.

You can guarantee yourself your choice of Kofi, Chet, or Paulo. I’m only trading down because I don’t have enough conviction on who I think is the best, but if any of you do you can jump ahead and get which you prefer.


I'll trade with you :cool:
 
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@WojoRising @Noahtogo24 if either of you want to draft 2 I will swap with you.

You can guarantee yourself your choice of Kofi, Chet, or Paulo. I’m only trading down because I don’t have enough conviction on who I think is the best, but if any of you do you can jump ahead and get which you prefer.
I would definitely be open to this
 
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dukedevilz

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dammit I get screwed as usual.

I guess 9/10 is better than 11 which is where I would've been drafting if we stuck to how we did it last few years.

You had Garza last year, though. He was #2 in voting for NPOY in 2020. That was a pretty obvious #1 overall selection.

You'll be alright. I mean, you did pull Obi Toppin in what? Round 8 or 9? To win, I think you need a combination of 4-5 really great picks + an 8-man roster that doesn't have any complete duds.
 
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dukedevilz

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Ouch. Well, at least I’ll have a decent excuse for my future results.

It's not a terrible place to be in. Once you get past the first 5-6 guys, there's not much of a difference, in terms of ceiling, between the 7th best and 12th best player. And you'll get the first pick of the second round. So statistically, you're more likely to have 2 All-Americans than anyone else.

In the first year of the draft, I believe WojoRising had two All-Americans with the same draft position as you; he took Jalen Brunson and Jevon Carter with his back-to-back picks. And then in 2020, can't remember who it was, but they took Tre Jones and Jalen Smith, both All-Americans, with back-to-back picks.
 
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dukedevilz

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Too late to join?

I'll defer to the group. Just conducted a simulation with the draft order. If you did join, I think you'd probably get the last pick in the first round.

How do others feel? I'll allow it we we have 5 of the other draft participants vote yes. You can vote yes by liking this post - or simply by letting us know in this thread. Would like to put the timer on this decision as the end of Friday night.
 
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I'll defer to the group. Just conducted a simulation with the draft order. If you did join, I think you'd probably get the last pick in the first round.

How do others feel? I'll allow it we we have 5 of the other draft participants vote yes. You can vote yes by liking this post - or simply by letting us know in this thread. Would like to put the timer on this decision as the end of Friday night.


I vote no, 12 is more than enough. I'd like to know who more than 3 of my players are.
 
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@ThePhog08 How badly do you want to join? It is fun for me, no doubt. But I don't follow other teams the way I used to. If its something you really want to do, you can play for me. I think I came in last the prior year haha