lol at Kentucky fans that are bothered by this (not Lurk).
You guys do realize that modern era ≠ greatest of all-time, right?
People rank eras all the time. Does it bother you when someone ranks the best programs of the past 10 years? Are you going to courter, "Irrelevant!" How about when someone ranks the best programs for this century? "Irrelevant!" Again, modern era doesn't mean "the greatest of all-time" it means the greatest of the modern era lol.
No need....losers use timeframing to overcome achievements they don't have.
I'm still not taking IU out of their status among the Bluebloods. You sure seem like you want to, however. Calling a rival something like IUsedtobegood isn't what you're trying to say it is.
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8-4.
Your KU program is among the elite. They are a Blueblood. BUT... they don't have a spot on the pedestal at the top. It's just that simple.
Your entire last paragraph... opinion. A lot of the same minutia in the 1st paragraph too.That's nice. Not sure what it has to do with the subject at hand, but that's never stopped you before, has it? 😆
You seem to struggle with fact vs opinion. Kentucky being on top is an opinion. Frankly, you should just be glad that devilz' system rewarded Kentucky with the #1 all time spot, because plenty of people would value a three title advantage over a higher win percentage. Especially considering the competition they've faced over the years.
Currently, there's probably no better program than the one led by Self. That matters a lot more to me than what happened 80 years ago. Like every other sports fan. Including you, but you'll never admit it of course. Which is fine. If you're content with living in the past, more power to you. Guess we're all content!
Your entire last paragraph... opinion. A lot of the same minutia in the 1st paragraph too.
Your problem is trying to make facts out of your opinions. Simply a futile endeavor.
Statistical FACTS back me up. The only time you get that to work for you is when it is a timeframed (hence, losing) argument.
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8-4.
"And sorry, chief, there are no "losing" opinions."
Sure there are.... yours.
I know I'd rather have 8 than 4. Pretty sure most fans would.
Can't really argue with a UCLA fan...they have the most trophies that matter. Glad there doesn't seem to be any on this board.
Unlike you, they have the right to say whatever they want and don't have to timeframe their arguments.
Agree. Kentucky is chasing UCLA.Can't really argue with a UCLA fan...they have the most trophies that matter. Glad there doesn't seem to be any on this board.
Unlike you, they have the right to say whatever they want and don't have to timeframe their arguments.
Throw conference championships out the window. Toss wins and win% out the door. Toss opinions and time frames. While consistency is nice, All-time titles is the Holy Grail.
That could be why some hide behind UCLA to talk ish about UK.
Is KU larger than Bill Self?I wonder why some hide behind the successes of dead people when comparing to Bill Self's program. Maybe because their current coach doesn't measure up, despite having every possible advantage?
2012 title game... nobody hiding behind anyone dead.I wonder why some hide behind the successes of dead people when comparing to Bill Self's program. Maybe because their current coach doesn't measure up, despite having every possible advantage?
Is KU larger than Bill Self?
2012 title game... nobody hiding behind anyone dead.
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'current state of affairs, recent....' the mantra continues. What a chode.
Why not just answer the question directly?Justifying timeframes doesn't work. Especially when you have to reach to a different sport to try to make a point.
Always do, it's when little twerps like him want to cram everything into a little tiny window of time and say that nothing else matters is when I call bullshit.Why not just answer the question directly?
Still trying to figure out where anyone said nothing else matters.Always do, it's when little twerps like him want to cram everything into a little tiny window of time and say that nothing else matters is when I call bullshit.
Are they really doing that or do you interpret it that way? When I say Barnes has the edge on Cal in head to head I'm not saying that UT is the best CBB program of all time. In the discussion of best program in CBB of all time, I have no dog in the hunt. I don't even know how to determine it. (all time wins or most Nat'l titles). It seems like whatever agenda someone is pushing is how they go in that argument.Always do, it's when little twerps like him want to cram everything into a little tiny window of time and say that nothing else matters is when I call bullshit.
Still trying to figure out where anyone said nothing else matters.
"last 5 years", Pee Wee. You use that one all the time.He lies almost as much as he contradicts himself.
And I like how he describes a 40 year period as a "tiny window of time." Yep, just half of NCAA tournament history, that's all. 🤣
"last 5 years", Pee Wee. You use that one all the time.
Clown talk.You can back an opinion with as many facts as you want. Still an opinion.
If you were actually serious about an all-time comparison, you'd consider that there were 4+ decades of basketball before a tourney even existed, and competition was/is not equal. Among many other factors.
The difference between UCLA-Kentucky in titles is almost the same as the difference between KU-Kentucky. If it can be argued that Kentucky is above UCLA all-time, then one could definitely make the argument that KU's on par with Kentucky all-time. And sorry, chief, there are no "losing" opinions.