Pretty sure BYU is #1.So it's not just Rick Barnes. I never realized this.
I wonder who's the top 3?
***2024 NCAA Tournament Thread***
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I’m a smart motherf ucker.
I think Purdue will give them a good game.
Lol what? Scheyer won the ACCT in Year 1 and followed it up with an Elite 8 in Year 2. He's a recruiting wizard who's going to bring in a top 3 recruiting class every year.
Imagine thinking Duke is going to turn into Indiana or something just because K left.
Purdue is very capable of winning it all. The eye test just says uconn is playing at a ridiculous level right now. Edey is a beast though. You never know. I have no dog in the fight, so I'm kind of pulling for NC State.
I don't disagree, however, Purdue just plays a style that forces people to play their game.
I don't think Purdue has the guards to beat UConn. Edey is a monster but he'll be going against another behemoth inside. We'll see. Bama would probably have to make 20 threes to win, which is feasible I guess.
People have been saying that about our guards all year. They've been wrong every single time.
big deal. Kevin Keatts and NC State won the ACCT and made the Final 4. And working the portal is far more important than bringing in a bunch of one and dones every year- amirite BBN?
Indiana is a good comparison.
If only Louisville was able to get by NC State in the ACC Tourney I'm sure they would have made the Final Four, as well.
Gay.
If only Louisville was able to get by NC State in the ACC Tourney I'm sure they would have made the Final Four, as well.
Can you give us a correct interpretation of the 3 second rule? Is this a misunderstood rule at all? I mean, I hear some say once you catch the ball you're allowed to finish through the play, assuming you're driving towards the basket and not stalling. What you're describing sounds like a clear violation because he didn't leave the paint and he didn't finish the play, as he kicked it out.
I honestly don't know if I saw 3 seconds called a single time during this whole NCAA Tournament. Not that I've watched every minute of every game, but it seems like refs in the tournament are a bit liberal with their application of the 3 second rule.
Most people (not suggesting Borden is) are confused because the NCAA is the only level that allows for a player to have one foot out and lift the other foot and the clock resets. The clock is also suspended when a player dribbles or starts the process of trying for a field goal.
I'm sure Edey breaks the rule on occasion. But it's nowhere near as often as some people suggest because they don't understand the rule. And as you say, that's the one rule in college basketball that is called the least. Hell, I don't know how you can expect 3 officials to watch 10 guys for other violations while also having one trying to count to 3 and knowing when to reset the count.
People complain about it a lot, especially at local basketball games. Is is really creating an unfair advantage? Most times, probably not.
There's obviously a big difference between parking yourself in the middle of the paint - and having one foot in the paint. I've never looked in the rule book for it, but I've understood once you receive a pass you're allowed to finish your opportunity to score. And I agree, it would be hard to enforce because there's so much the refs already have to account for. If you want that rule enforced correctly all the time, you'd almost need a ref that is solely dedicated to overseeing nothing but three second violations.
3 second violations:
The only ones I have seen called this year are two against Kentucky.
The only hanging on the rim that I have seen this year was against Kentucky.
The rule against flopping is not called even though Duke, Arkansas, Alabama et.al. flop all over the place. In Duke's loss to NC State, if the Duke guys had been playing basketball instead of flopping they would have won. At one point three Duke players were on the floor trying to get a foul called instead of playing.
I am tired of the three point shooters sticking their leg out and basically kicking the defender and many, many times the stupid refs call a foul on the kicked defender. It is horrible.
Why have these stupid rules if it they are not enforced on an equal basis?
The only ones I have seen called this year are two against Kentucky.
The only hanging on the rim that I have seen this year was against Kentucky.
The rule against flopping is not called even though Duke, Arkansas, Alabama et.al. flop all over the place. In Duke's loss to NC State, if the Duke guys had been playing basketball instead of flopping they would have won. At one point three Duke players were on the floor trying to get a foul called instead of playing.
I am tired of the three point shooters sticking their leg out and basically kicking the defender and many, many times the stupid refs call a foul on the kicked defender. It is horrible.
Why have these stupid rules if it they are not enforced on an equal basis?
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Now he’s tearing Scheyer a new one… 🤣
No one is safe from this dude and I love it.
I always hate this question, but I wonder who he roots for.
He's smart, I'm guessing Vandy or Duke.
He's smart, I'm guessing Vandy or Duke.
That is Duke with the wrong colors! 🤣
Tom Thibodeau appears to be the only coach in college or pros that he respects. And I'm pretty sure I came across at least one video of him ripping him too. 🤣
He seems to have a special hatred for college coaches.
It never gets called anymore unless someone has legit been in there at least 10-12 seconds. Edey and a lot of others will occasionally stick one foot outside the lane for a split second just to "reset".
One foot out and pick the other up. That's all you have to do. You also can be at 3 seconds but if you're making a move to get out of the lane it's not a violation.
Pretty much every half court offensive possession in college basketball they could call a 3 second violation if they were actually enforcing it. Glad they don't, because that would be gay. I also don't blame the officials. If you are obligated to count to 3 every time someone enters the lane you'd go bonkers (and also not be able to concentrate on anything else going on). You'd basically have to bring in a 4th official that is only dedicated to looking for 3 seconds. It is a very short amount of time. Some of the fatties prob can't even make it from one side of the lane to the other in 3 seconds. 😂
Curiosity struck, so I looked into the rule book. It's on page 91 of the 2023-24 NCAA Men's Basketball Rules
@Boilermaker03 @boilerzz @IUfanBorden
I don't see anything here about the clock resetting. It does mention the count is suspended (not reset) if the player is actively trying to score a field goal. If 3 seconds has elapsed, and he's in the paint and passes to a teammate, then that would be a clear violation. Keeping one foot out doesn't appear to reset the count. Any part of the body in the paint keeps the count going.
Let me know if I'm overlooking something, though.
The clock does reset if he exits the lane. This is done by either completely leaving the lane or with one foot and he lifts the other. Painter went into this early last year and confirmed this to be the rule with the NCAA. Not every specific circumstance is spelled out in the rule book as it would be too voluminous to be effective. There are also case books that the NCAA provides to officials when something is ambiguous and needs clarity.Curiosity struck, so I looked into the rule book. It's on page 91 of the 2023-24 NCAA Men's Basketball Rules
@Boilermaker03 @boilerzz @IUfanBorden
I don't see anything here about the clock resetting. It does mention the count is suspended (not reset) if the player is actively trying to score a field goal. If 3 seconds has elapsed, and he's in the paint and passes to a teammate, then that would be a clear violation. Keeping one foot out doesn't appear to reset the count. Any part of the body in the paint keeps the count going.
Let me know if I'm overlooking something, though.
It is suspended if he starts his dribble and moves to shoot. If he passes back out and doesn't immediately leave the lane, it's a likely violation.
Correct. If he is making a move towards the basket and is in the lane past the 3 seconds, then passes out. It's a violation. I've seen that called on him a few times.Curiosity struck, so I looked into the rule book. It's on page 91 of the 2023-24 NCAA Men's Basketball Rules
@Boilermaker03 @boilerzz @IUfanBorden
I don't see anything here about the clock resetting. It does mention the count is suspended (not reset) if the player is actively trying to score a field goal. If 3 seconds has elapsed, and he's in the paint and passes to a teammate, then that would be a clear violation. Keeping one foot out doesn't appear to reset the count. Any part of the body in the paint keeps the count going.
Let me know if I'm overlooking something, though.
Also, keeping one foot out alone doesn't reset it, but simply picking the other foot up and setting it back down will.
Yes, that is what I was alluding to, but should've been more clear.
Can one of you come scrape your @Boilermaker03 off of the bathroom floor on the IU home site? He is laying in a puddle of his own vomit.
Jesus Christ, this clown has lived there posting ridiculous bitter bullshit yesterday and all day today.
I don't know if IU will get to another FF in my lifetime...but if they do I assure you I won't go bleat and vomit all over the Purdue home board.
Jesus Christ, this clown has lived there posting ridiculous bitter bullshit yesterday and all day today.
I don't know if IU will get to another FF in my lifetime...but if they do I assure you I won't go bleat and vomit all over the Purdue home board.
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There are a lot of things Edey gets away with...3 seconds is not one of them. He has been coached to manage that pretty well.Curiosity struck, so I looked into the rule book. It's on page 91 of the 2023-24 NCAA Men's Basketball Rules
@Boilermaker03 @boilerzz @IUfanBorden
I don't see anything here about the clock resetting. It does mention the count is suspended (not reset) if the player is actively trying to score a field goal. If 3 seconds has elapsed, and he's in the paint and passes to a teammate, then that would be a clear violation. Keeping one foot out doesn't appear to reset the count. Any part of the body in the paint keeps the count going.
Let me know if I'm overlooking something, though.
No one cares.
Not even close. Don't even know the dude and rarely interact with him. And even if I did, I don't give a damn who posts on other boards.
Curiosity struck, so I looked into the rule book. It's on page 91 of the 2023-24 NCAA Men's Basketball Rules
@Boilermaker03 @boilerzz @IUfanBorden
I don't see anything here about the clock resetting. It does mention the count is suspended (not reset) if the player is actively trying to score a field goal. If 3 seconds has elapsed, and he's in the paint and passes to a teammate, then that would be a clear violation. Keeping one foot out doesn't appear to reset the count. Any part of the body in the paint keeps the count going.
Let me know if I'm overlooking something, though.
