Yea I’d have no problem with it either, tough blow with the Langford injury.
Sorry, just now getting back and hearing the news....shit that sucks! At least I'm not losing one of my top picks lol. Yeah, if you don't mind@jace4655555 feel kind of bad that you lost Langford. Wouldn't be surprised if he's out for the season. I know one player that would be an absolute steal. And the crazy thing is, most everyone here should know who this player is. I feel that he was overlooked because I had him a little low in my top 150 rankings. I think he's a legit top 50 player.
Seems like you have a lot on your plate, so if you'd like me to go ahead and take this player for you, I will.
lol how'd that happen? Well, I'll take Isaiah Livers as one of my picks.I just realized Isaiah Livers was never drafted fml
lol how'd that happen? Well, I'll take Isaiah Livers as one of my picks.
He might. He might also be a distant third and just HM all Big Ten. In a format like this and where only 120 players are chosen from 351 teams, that’s not enough to justify taking that risk IMO.People got in my head so I didn’t wanna take a third Michigan player.
He might be Michigan’s best player and I took the other two 50 and 70 pics ago. God speed!
I think there are available players with a much, much higher ceiling than Livers. At any rate, the player I was wanting to draft for @jace4655555 is Precious Achiuwa of Memphis. Yes, the last pick of the draft is a legit All-American candidate.
So, Isaiah Livers and Precious Achiuwa for Jace.
He might. He might also be a distant third and just HM all Big Ten. In a format like this and where on 120 players are chosen from 351 teams, that’s not enough to justify taking that risk IMO.
You get 2 points for 1st team all conference as a mid major and the same for major conference 3rd team. It’s easier to find a guy you can confidently say will be 1st team at a MM late than a guy who will have to beat out some damn good players in a major conference.
I’m pretty high on Simpson and Teske.A distant third? No.
I’m pretty high on Simpson and Teske.
I think he could too. I also think he could be 4th behind Simpson, Teske and Wagner if he’s as good as some say.So am/was I but with the changes Livers made I think he could easily lead the team in scoring.
Name one for funzies
I think it's conceivable for Livers to be 2nd Team All-Conference. Simpson and Teske aren't offensive juggernauts. So maybe if he averages 15/7 or around there, he could be a top 10 player. Just see him more as 3rd Team or HM All-Conference.
Here are a few guys that I think have a higher ceiling...
Elijah Hughes, Syracuse
LJ Figueroa, St.John's
Xavier Sneed, Kansas State
Chris Duarte, Oregon
David Collins, South Florida
Quentin Grimes, Houston
Nick Muszynski, Belmont
Nathan Knight, William & Mary
Eugene German, Northern Illinois
Nobody picked DeSousa?
He could end up being KU’s best player this year. Worth taking in the final round, IMO.
Damn, imo Figueroa would have been a phenomenal pick.I think it's conceivable for Livers to be 2nd Team All-Conference. Simpson and Teske aren't offensive juggernauts. So maybe if he averages 15/7 or around there, he could be a top 10 player. Just see him more as 3rd Team or HM All-Conference.
Here are a few guys that I think have a higher ceiling...
Elijah Hughes, Syracuse
LJ Figueroa, St.John's
Xavier Sneed, Kansas State
Chris Duarte, Oregon
David Collins, South Florida
Quentin Grimes, Houston
Nick Muszynski, Belmont
Nathan Knight, William & Mary
Eugene German, Northern Illinois
I don’t think Livers is any worse of a pick than all of those guys is what I’m saying. That’s why I said name one not name 10. We will follow that comparison.
Or I can bet that Livers finishes in the top half of that group.
I think 15 and 7 is very doable. I’m thinking 14 and 6 is a good projection.
I'd say just about all of them have a higher ceiling, however. Livers is likely the #3 guy for a team that isn't viewed by many as a top 25 team.
All the guys I listed from power conferences are the #1 options for their team. David Collins, especially, has a much higher ceiling because there have only been 6 AAC players taken so far. And they receive the same number of points as power conferences. He's a good candidate to make 1st Team. That's why I was shocked no one took Precious Achiuwa.
Also, the 3 mid-major players I listed are very good candidates to win Conference POY. Each conference has 1 Honorable Mention All-American. I'd say 60-80% chance that any one of those 3 guys is a HM All-American.
I don’t think anyone knows what his ceiling is at the moment. He looked really good in the exhibition..... as in unquestionably the best player for Michigan type good. Now that could have been a fluke vs a meaningless DII, but based on how he looked I think there’s a good chance he isn’t Michigan’s #3 player. I’d swap him for Teske right now if you’d let us.
Michigan lost three top volume shooters from last year (Matthews, Poole, Brazdeikas) and Livers looked more poised to fill that gap than Simpson or Teske.
And this isn’t just being a homer. I’m talking about how I may have messed up by taking two Michigan players that weren’t him.
I don’t think anyone knows what his ceiling is at the moment. He looked really good in the exhibition..... as in unquestionably the best player for Michigan type good. Now that could have been a fluke vs a meaningless DII, but based on how he looked I think there’s a good chance he isn’t Michigan’s #3 player. I’d swap him for Teske right now if you’d let us.
Michigan lost three top volume shooters from last year (Matthews, Poole, Brazdeikas) and Livers looked more poised to fill that gap than Simpson or Teske.
And this isn’t just being a homer. I’m talking about how I may have messed up by taking two Michigan players that weren’t him.
@dukedevilz something interesting is that Michigan looks to be going from one extreme to another in terms of tempo. Michigan was one of the slowest paced teams in the country last year but Howard had them pushing the ball up.
“The game was played at a 77-possession pace, faster than any game the Wolverines played last season. Exhibition caveats apply, but Michigan only played two games faster than 77 possessions in the KenPom era (Duke 2001, Minnesota 2004).”
We'll see if counting numbers are affected by that or if the decreased efficiency evens those out.
The combination of losing 31 FGA per game (Poole, Matthews, Brazdeikas) and 8-10 more possessions per game sets someone up for a big increase in scoring. Those guys shot a lot lol.
TBH, I just completely forgot about Precious. I assumed he had already been taken by the 10th round when I took Henry.I'd say just about all of them have a higher ceiling, however. Livers is likely the #3 guy for a team that isn't viewed by many as a top 25 team.
All the guys I listed from power conferences are the #1 options for their team. David Collins, especially, has a much higher ceiling because there have only been 6 AAC players taken so far. And they receive the same number of points as power conferences. He's a good candidate to make 1st Team. That's why I was shocked no one took Precious Achiuwa.
Also, the 3 mid-major players I listed are very good candidates to win Conference POY. Each conference has 1 Honorable Mention All-American. I'd say 60-80% chance that any one of those 3 guys is a HM All-American.
De Sousa enrolled in college early and was playing very well towards the end of the season on a Final Four team. He was basically a high school senior doing this. Now he’s had a year and a half of training in Self’s system and he’ll be motivated to come out and play. As the 2nd best big man on one of the nations best front courts I could see him averaging something like 14/9. If Udoka goes out with an injury, which is very possible since he’s never played a full season, De Sousa suddenly becomes the go to guy down low on a top 5 team with a coach who favors the high/low ball.No one likes our under the radar guys
De Sousa enrolled in college early and was playing very well towards the end of the season on a Final Four team. He was basically a high school senior doing this. Now he’s had a year and a half of training in Self’s system and he’ll be motivated to come out and play. As the 2nd best big man on one of the nations best front courts I could see him averaging something like 14/9. If Udoka goes out with an injury, which is very possible since he’s never played a full season, De Sousa suddenly becomes the go to guy down low on a top 5 team with a coach who favors the high/low ball.
He’s definitely got sleeper potential to be a 1st team all conference/All American caliber player.
Thanks for putting this together @dukedevilz. It will be fun to track how my guys are doing periodically throughout the season.And here are the 12 teams.
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Thanks for putting this together @dukedevilz. It will be fun to track how my guys are doing periodically throughout the season.
BTW, just an FYI for all. Only two players return from last year's top 10 national win shares rankings, Cassius Winston and Sam Merrill. You'd have to be a genius to have been able to draft both of those guys!!
Yeah, I wasn't in love with the Marshall pick either but he did finish 2nd team All Big East last year. And that was with him banged up for a good portion of the season. I think he has a legit shot at 1st team this year.Between Winston-Merrill-Lamb you easily have the trio with the highest floor in this draft. Merrill and Lamb have a WIDE margin over the peers in their respective conferences, so it's likely they receive HM All-American. Utah State is a top 25 team to start the season, and Vermont is a potential top 50 team. Don't think it would be too far-fetched for either one of these guys to make an All-American team. Some of the picks in your draft I'm not crazy about (ie Naji Marshall), but I could easily be proven wrong.
Last year, I correctly predicted @sdsufan10 as the winner. The year before, the team I picked to win the draft finished second. So I don't believe my picks are cursed. I believe my team is a legitimate contender to win it all, but I like not to include my team in the predictions (my teams finished 2nd place in the last 2 drafts). I think all of us should believe we have the best team. So here's how I see it...
1. MGC_07
2. boilerzz
3. WeAreDePaul
4. klize17
5. Villain07
6. hailtoyourvicotr
7. sdsufan10
8. GE Nole
9. jace465555
10. jwill133
11. imajericho
Hell yeah!Between Winston-Merrill-Lamb you easily have the trio with the highest floor in this draft. Merrill and Lamb have a WIDE margin over the peers in their respective conferences, so it's likely they receive HM All-American. Utah State is a top 25 team to start the season, and Vermont is a potential top 50 team. Don't think it would be too far-fetched for either one of these guys to make an All-American team. Some of the picks in your draft I'm not crazy about (ie Naji Marshall), but I could easily be proven wrong.
Last year, I correctly predicted @sdsufan10 as the winner. The year before, the team I picked to win the draft finished second. So I don't believe my picks are cursed. I believe my team is a legitimate contender to win it all, but I like not to include my team in the predictions (my teams finished 2nd place in the last 2 drafts). I think all of us should believe we have the best team. So here's how I see it...
1. MGC_07
2. boilerzz
3. WeAreDePaul
4. klize17
5. Villain07
6. hailtoyourvicotr
7. sdsufan10
8. GE Nole
9. jace465555
10. jwill133
11. imajericho
I tell you what. You can win this if we win on the court!Hell yeah!
Between Winston-Merrill-Lamb you easily have the trio with the highest floor in this draft. Merrill and Lamb have a WIDE margin over the peers in their respective conferences, so it's likely they receive HM All-American. Utah State is a top 25 team to start the season, and Vermont is a potential top 50 team. Don't think it would be too far-fetched for either one of these guys to make an All-American team. Some of the picks in your draft I'm not crazy about (ie Naji Marshall), but I could easily be proven wrong.
Last year, I correctly predicted @sdsufan10 as the winner. The year before, the team I picked to win the draft finished second. So I don't believe my picks are cursed. I believe my team is a legitimate contender to win it all, but I like not to include my team in the predictions (my teams finished 2nd place in the last 2 drafts). I think all of us should believe we have the best team. So here's how I see it...
1. MGC_07
2. boilerzz
3. WeAreDePaul
4. klize17
5. Villain07
6. hailtoyourvicotr
7. sdsufan10
8. GE Nole
9. jace465555
10. jwill133
11. imajericho
It's interesting that you made half of my picks, but pick me 9th.
Lol in all seriousness, if I finish 9th I'll be super happy!
Lost my 2nd round pick before season started
Had to have you make at least 4 picks for me (thanks so much again for that!)
I had 4 picks that I rushed because I hadn't been able to keep up with all the players available and I didn't want to hold up everyone else.
So, I will be legitimately surprised if I don't come in dead last.
MGC has the best imo...
GE Nole hot out of the gates though with Butler from Baylor. 30 points today.
I’m not as confident as you guys are haha. Blackshear may not be the best player on his own team, and the Washington frontcourt could boom or bust.2 Votes for MGC. That pretty much makes him the Michigan State of the College Basketball Draft. Now it's time to back up the hype.