Look, I like Roy and always have. Used to go to his camps. But he's been badly outcoached by Self each and every time, minus one game betwen Illinois and a vastly superior KU team. There's a lot more to comparing than number of titles. If Self coaches another 15 years after Roy hangs it up, then we can compare titles.
Btw, not all titles are equal. Do you consider Uconn's title over Butler equal to UNC's last year? Think about the fortune of the entire 2008 team returning vs a field that couldn't begin to measure up. That was like if Chalmers, Rush and Arthur had returned from the 08 championship team.
If Self hadn't faced one of the best teams ever assembled in '12, he likely has another. Yeah, yeah, shoulda woulda coulda. Point being, a good amount of it is luck and having the right roster at the right time. And health.
We just saw a 16 seed mop up the floor with the most consistent and impressive team in the country. Are we seriously using the results of the tournament as concrete proof of coaching ability? Ha.
Please stahp