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Rosanne Lamar Bee Left/Right Slugjam

But you were the one bothered about why no one discussed Kendrick Lamar in a Roseanne Barr thread. So, you're talking about yourself?
If I was bothered by either one I would’ve started a thread about it.
I’m just discussing it, it doesn’t effect me either way.
 
Exactly. So go ahead and use it.
There’s so much in this long thread, but I’ll be succinct. Without really knowing much about either situation, you chose to stand with Roseanne over Lamar.
On B, I think he made a bigger ass out of himself than Roseanne did. What he did was blatant racism. What Roseanne did was make a dumb and thoughtless joke that is racially insensitive.
 
So sorry Q. So sorry!

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There’s so much in this long thread, but I’ll be succinct. Without really knowing much about either situation, you chose to stand with Roseanne over Lamar.
If you want to call that standing with Roseanne, go ahead. I also made that comment about it being racially insensitive while giving her the benefit of the doubt. I gave an extensive reason why I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. I also later in the thread took away that benefit of the doubt when I saw where she had a history of referring to black people as apes. So I will put her as being a bigger ass than Lamar, but keep him as an ass.
 
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Right! The situation was dead at that moment. The girl apologized and I think most realized she just got caught up in the moment and it was an honest mistake. But because it wasn't discussed on here BLAMING HIM for her saying that, some waited until one of theirs was caught saying racist crap to try to equate the both. Sad really.
What does “one of theirs”mean? Sounds kind of racist.
 
It's either one or the other? We have to choose?
It’s not like that at all. He jumped to defend Roseanne from the outset and say it was an oversight. She didn’t think it through. Whereas he was definitive that Lamar intentionally tried to make a point by humiliating that white girl. First, Roseanne’s comments didn’t really leave room for interpretation. 2nd, Barr has a long history of stuff like this. If you watch the Lamar incident, it is very clear it was an unfortunate situation. Lamar, nor the fan meant to cause drama and he tried to diffuse it quickly in a polite manner.

He had an agenda and got it wrong.
If you want to call that standing with Roseanne, go ahead. I also made that comment about it being racially insensitive while giving her the benefit of the doubt. I gave an extensive reason why I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. I also later in the thread took away that benefit of the doubt when I saw where she had a history of referring to black people as apes. So I will put her as being a bigger ass than Lamar, but keep him as an ass.

Why do mental gymnastics to defend Roseanne and then turn around and definitely crush Lamar without even watching the incident?
 
I am sorry , but if you do that you are dick. No amount of BS rhetoric changes that reality. The word is used incessantly in the genre of music , so if you don't like someone that isn't black saying it when they are singing one of your songs. Don't put it in your music.
You had a point until the bold.
 
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I mean you were excusing Roseanne's action and then brought up Kendrick. So, are you racist?
Please post where I excused her actions? I said canceling the show was too harsh & I still believe that.
So, what does “one of theirs” mean? You going to answer my question with another question again?
 
It’s not like that at all. He jumped to defend Roseanne from the outset and say it was an oversight. She didn’t think it through. Whereas he was definitive that Lamar intentionally tried to make a point by humiliating that white girl. First, Roseanne’s comments didn’t really leave room for interpretation. 2nd, Barr has a long history of stuff like this. If you watch the Lamar incident, it is very clear it was an unfortunate situation. Lamar, nor the fan meant to cause drama and he tried to diffuse it quickly in a polite manner.

He had an agenda and got it wrong.


Why do mental gymnastics to defend Roseanne and then turn around and definitely crush Lamar without even watching the incident?

We know why
 
It’s not like that at all. He jumped to defend Roseanne from the outset and say it was an oversight. She didn’t think it through. Whereas he was definitive that Lamar intentionally tried to make a point by humiliating that white girl. First, Roseanne’s comments didn’t really leave room for interpretation. 2nd, Barr has a long history of stuff like this. If you watch the Lamar incident, it is very clear it was an unfortunate situation. Lamar, nor the fan meant to cause drama and he tried to diffuse it quickly in a polite manner.

He had an agenda and got it wrong.


Why do mental gymnastics to defend Roseanne and then turn around and definitely crush Lamar without even watching the incident?
Okay, so by saying that she made her own bed, said something dumb that was so easy to say it was racist, agreeing that the right thing was done by dropping her and later recanting my suggestion that it was an insensitive joke and agreeing that it was racist is your idea of defending her? You are twisted man.
 
Please post where I excused her actions? I said canceling the show was too harsh & I still believe that.
So, what does “one of theirs” mean? You going to answer my question with another question again?

You obviously have a soft spot for Roseanne that in a thread about her, who you've shown compassion and understanding too, asked the question as to why aren't we then discussing Kendrick Lamar and trying to say HE committed a racist act far worse than hers.
 
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You obviously have a soft spot for Roseanne that in a thread about her, who you've shown compassion and understanding too, asked the question as to why aren't we then discussing Kendrick Lamar and trying to say HE committed a racist act far worse than hers.
I bet you’re really good at dodge ball. Guess we’ll never know what “one of theirs” means.
Shame you’re not man enough to explain what you mean.
 
Please post where I excused her actions? I said canceling the show was too harsh & I still believe that.
So, what does “one of theirs” mean? You going to answer my question with another question again?
These dorks will do this all night. It's all they live for. I am willing to bet these white liberal SJWs hardly ever deal with black people. They probably attended sensitivity training in how to talk to them. And Q isn't a good example of how most black people live. He is an extremist that lives behind a keyboard.
 
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Really---you are arguing different definitions of racism? Why? What would possess you to do that? What more is there to discuss about that pumpkin britches racist tweet. Sounds like it has been verifiably all around racist and she is facing some stiff ass consequences for being an ugly minded person. What more is there to talk about? Its pretty common place AND easy to process multiple news stories within a conversation. I don't have trouble following---i doubt you do either. I feel like Rosanne is a troubled person and has many deep seeded issues, being a racist dumbass is one. Her punishment has been severe---very swiftly. And I don't have a problem with it. She has to be accountable for her actions and its refreshing to see it actually happen. It makes it even better she is making BS excuses now and being vindictive to her castmates for throwing her under the bus instead of owning her own stupidity----kinda solidifies the right thing was done. Again, not sure what more there is to talk about for this debacle.

You know you see color to often when posting---it shows up all the time in your posts. It doesn't matter what skin color KL and Rosanne are.....b/c they both did shitty things. You should be able to ignore the offenders color and just judge the situations independently. Both situations are similar, but not identical. Their similarities show that singling out people b/c of their skin color is ugly and has no place.
Who's arguing? Not me. I clarified that I'm using a different one -- a forty-year-old definition that cuts ambiguity and gets to the heart of why it matters on a society-wide level. Y'all want to throw a tantrum insisting I use your broad, feckless definition.

Sounds like y'all are full of crap about Lamar, too. I haven't caught up yet: Have any of you backtracked or apologized? Y'all didn't even watch the video, did you? You just read some outraged conservative blogger and started repeating it as Gospel, didn't you?
 
Okay, so by saying that she made her own bed, said something dumb that was so easy to say it was racist, agreeing that the right thing was done by dropping her and later recanting my suggestion that it was an insensitive joke and agreeing that it was racist is your idea of defending her? You are twisted man.
Hardly. You only recanted after the combination of many posters calling you and showing you where she did it before to another African American.

The opposite was true with your condemnation of Lamar despite not watching the video or having a full understanding of the situation. You were all over him and his intent.

You my friend, seem to have to twisted.
 
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These dorks will do this all night. It's all they live for. I am willing to bet these white liberal SJWs hardly ever deal with black people. They probably attended sensitivity training in how to talk to them. And Q isn't a good example of how most black people live. He is an extremist that lives behind a keyboard.
So, Q is “one of them?”
 
These dorks will do this all night. It's all they live for. I am willing to bet these white liberal SJWs hardly ever deal with black people. They probably attended sensitivity training in how to talk to them. And Q isn't a good example of how most black people live. He is an extremist that lives behind a keyboard.

The poet laureate of racism! Tell us all about it. Let's Go! I'm glad you don't represent all white men!
 
1. You used the Lamar example as someone who used their platform to ridicule a white person. That is not true.

2. The song is not full of n-bombs. It has that word in the chorus.

3. As soon as she started using it, Lamar realized it was a bad situation and decided to defuse it. He was polite and did not ridicule her. She meant no harm and he didn’t take offense.

4. While you readily jump to bash Lamar for something that was an apparent mistake, you quickly jump to defend someone, who made a blatant racial joke, as just an oversight or an accident.

It paints you in a bad light. Like you have an agenda. Refusing to see the racism in the blatant act while trying to find it where it doesn’t actually exist.

See, this seems a straightforward interpretation.

Not only would it not really make sense for him to actually call up a fan purposefully to insult them or degrade them, it doesn’t seem like that was the case at all. Given that there is also no evidence at all that this was planned as a number of people have said, or that he purposefully humiliated as a number of people have said... it feels like people took twisted stances which presumed a lot about Lamar, and all without any real evidence or logic to back it up.
 
See, this seems a straightforward interpretation.

Not only would it not really make sense for him to actually call up a fan purposefully to insult them or degrade them, it doesn’t seem like that was the case at all. Given that there is also no evidence at all that this was planned as a number of people have said, or that he purposefully humiliated as a number of people have said... it feels like people took twisted stances which presumed a lot about Lamar, and all without any real evidence or logic to back it up.
So you watched it now?
 
Hardly. You only recanted after the combination of many posters calling you and showing you where she did it before to another African American.

The opposite was true with your condemnation of Lamar despite not watching the video or having a full understanding of the situation. You were all over him and his intent.

You my friend, seem to have to twisted.
I watched the video. Why don't you go back and tell me what I missed. It was last page, you never answered.

I recanted after the first person showed where she had done it before. And that person wasn't calling me out when he posted the tweet. So yes, you are twisted. You are part of the problem and have nothing to do with the solution. But keep fighting the good fight brother, you will make a difference at some point.
 
See, this seems a straightforward interpretation.

Not only would it not really make sense for him to actually call up a fan purposefully to insult them or degrade them, it doesn’t seem like that was the case at all. Given that there is also no evidence at all that this was planned as a number of people have said, or that he purposefully humiliated as a number of people have said... it feels like people took twisted stances which presumed a lot about Lamar, and all without any real evidence or logic to back it up.

They do it all the time to justify and equate their own racism. They be like "yeah yeah she did it but look, someone else did something that isn't even similar but if we say it's similar enough, people will believe us."
 
Still feel sorry for Roseanne?
I feel sorry for the cast & crew of the show. I still say taking a few paychecks from her would’ve been punishment enough.
See how easy it is to answer a question? Too bad others dodge & deflect when asked questions.
 
I watched the video. Why don't you go back and tell me what I missed. It was last page, you never answered.

I recanted after the first person showed where she had done it before. And that person wasn't calling me out when he posted the tweet. So yes, you are twisted. You are part of the problem and have nothing to do with the solution. But keep fighting the good fight brother, you will make a difference at some point.
You recanted after it was undeniable to anyone not named David Duke. Congrats?

My question is why were you so quick and willing to defend Roseanne without giving the same benefit of doubt for Lamar?
 
I feel sorry for the cast & crew of the show. I still say taking a few paychecks from her would’ve been punishment enough.
See how easy it is to answer a question? Too bad others dodge & deflect when asked questions.

I guess if we take away Trump's cell phone, that would be punishment enough as well, huh?
 
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