Well yeah, of course it is. Their main function is to make money and provide some sort of structure for those avenues that make them money. If people would realize this they wouldn't get so worked up.
Purdue President Mitch Daniels nails NCAA
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Well yeah, of course it is. Their main function is to make money and provide some sort of structure for those avenues that make them money. If people would realize this they wouldn't get so worked up.
But taking classes a school offers is not cheating no matter which classes they take. Paying players is cheating regardless of who does it. There is no correlation there.
I find it even more surprising that so many Purdue fans are masquerading as fans of other schools on this board. Question, though: How do you know they are Purdue fans when they profess allegiance to schools like Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, MIchigan, NC St., and others?
Agreed, especially since 99% of posts from Purdue fans on this board are in the B1G conference thread.
I like the baseball rule but it requires the NBA to go along. Let's start our discussion over. What makes you think a OAD isn't interested in a "real" education?
I mean, I think in general many OADs aren't all in on their education. Nor do I blame them tbh. It doesn't mean they don't try though.
I don't know how any come back and finish a degree though. I know many at least take classes. I know one of UNC's OAD guys graduated (which is a pretty good percentage since they have had so few, lol).
I don't know how any come back and finish a degree though. I know many at least take classes. I know one of UNC's OAD guys graduated (which is a pretty good percentage since they have had so few, lol).
I haven't followed that as much but my guess would be they didn't make it in the league.
Wait. UNC just had fake african classes to pass through students. Nothing to do with athletes?
OK then.
No. There were no fake classes at all.
Why is this rather obvious fact so hard for some of you to grasp?
That dude is special. He’ll say something stupid and won’t reply if he doesn’t like what you said.
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https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/unc-report-academic-fraud/index.html
UNC's own report concluded they were fake classes. Multiple employees were fired and the University was put on accreditation probation. Whether the classes were fake or not is in dispute - all parties agree the classes were fake.
Why is that obvious fact so hard for some to grasp?
Nowhere in UNC’s report does it say the classes were fake. If you can find one instance of this, I will agree you are correct. But you can’t. Which makes you incorrect. Again.
Apparently reading comprehension is not an area of focus at Purdue.
You mean they weren't fake because they existed? As in fake classes are real because they occurred? I'm with you then- UNCs fake classes are real.
UNC officials are admittedly embarrassed by the whole thing. Some UNC fans are not - I get it. The AD should be embarrassed that some of the athletes can't read the banners hanging in the Dean Dome. From the investigation "Several athletes are reading at grade school level. One could not read the word Wisconsin" It's ironic that some of these students couldn't read about themselves in the papers.
Tell you what, call the NCAA and let us know what they say. Beating that dead horse is something huh?
Correct. They were real because they existed and work was required for grade. Just like the independent studies classes at Purdue.
As an alum, I would say that I was more angered than embarrassed that these easy classes were allowed to exist and continue long after red flags were raised. But I am not one bit embarrassed for Carolina that an athlete couldn't read- that is a failure of public schools at the elementary level and that phenomenon is not limited to UNC or any other P5 school.
Correction: Work was not required. If the term work has any real meaning then no work was required.
Comment of interest: I am not embarrassed that my University accepted and then gave a diploma to a "student" who could not read beyond the grade school level. Check.
Correction: I'm not accepting your stance that it happens at all P5 schools. Maybe isolated incidents occur at most. That's a notion created to make you feel better about the gross negligence of your school and AD.
Seeing as that was a main point of the letter - the NCAA has zero interest in upholding any ideals or any intentions on enforcing rules with any credibility - I am surprised you'd ask me to call them. I'd just as well call my Aunt Beverly to see what she says - has as much relevance. It would be more enlightening to watch feral pigs interact to understand how the NCAA handled UNC than to ask the NCAA itself.
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I asked you to call because this issue is done. Hell call your auntie up, she may shed more light on this than you.
Work was required. This is fact and not debatable.
I have no idea if Carolina gave a diploma to an athlete who couldn't read and nor do you. If so, it speaks to the failing of our entire educational system.
I don't care if you accept my stance or not. Everyone recruits the same athletes. They don't become great students just because they choose one school over another.
There was no negligence on the part of the Athletic Department. The failing was on the College of Arts and Sciences, which refused to monitor one particular department head and his secretary, even after being alerted (by the Athletics Department) to improprieties.
And speaking of creations, this whole notion of fake classes was created by you and people like you to make you feel better about the fact that by just about every metric, Carolina is far superior to Purdue (or about 98% of all other schools) in both academics and athletics. But don't worry, I would still hire a Purdue grad even after interacting with you as I don't think you are a reflection of a typical Purdue alum.
Seems the only people who are trying to understand the NCAA are you and your porcine friends. We Carolina people know exactly why the NCAA did what it did.
Pig is an apt user name it appears.
Perhaps Jarms was a Purdue fan all along? It would explain why this thread is still going Winking
As you have noted correctly on many occasions- as long as these fools keep bringing it up, we will continue to rub their faces in it.
As long as people keep bringing it up, we will keep talking about it. Kind of like when someone brings up a loss to your team from 12 years ago and blames it on the refs. How do you not respond?
I don't know about not being able to read. Not sure who said that but if it was the Willingham stuff people should be ridiculed for using it.
Purdue fans are really upset that UNC is a better university and athletic program I guess. I still really don't get it tbh. I mean, Purdue is a fine school. Be proud. You won't ever catch UNC in basketball but you could come close in academics if you really improve.
Purdue fans are really upset that UNC is a better university and athletic program I guess. I still really don't get it tbh. I mean, Purdue is a fine school. Be proud. You won't ever catch UNC in basketball but you could come close in academics if you really improve.
I just offer money to their go fund me account. But nobody ever takes me up on it. I honestly thought this was a B1G circle jerk thread. Little did I know.
Enforce eligibility of academics for the year. That means if the players does not complete the second semester in good academic standing the games he or they played in are forfeited. Put the kids in an "honest " curriculum and just enforce all standards the regular students face. If they want to major in basketball let them study in Europe or the D league.
