Lunardi gets his info from the committee. If that holds up goes to show the Q1 win thing is overrated in seeding, they will put you where they want
Oregon with 8 quad 1 wins yet a 4 seed in lunardis bracket...
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The strength of the schedule with metrics, especially NET, has played a part.
Playing a poopy schedule in nonconference isn't rewarding compared to those that do.
Playing a poopy schedule in nonconference isn't rewarding compared to those that do.
Lunardi doesn't get his info from the committee. He looks at the same data and makes his own judgments, which are often wrong. He's an average at best bracketologist.
They've won quite a few games in the final minute of play. They stole two road games last week. I want to say they were down by 6 points with 2-3 minutes to go against Penn State and Ohio State... If you go by the eye test, a 4 seed might be about right.
But, that's not how resumes are built. A win is a win. Resume alone, Oregon is at least a 2 seed. Could easily be a 1 seed, though. That 32-point shellacking by Illinois doesn't look great. Other than that one game, there resume is as close to flawless as you could ask for.
But, that's not how resumes are built. A win is a win. Resume alone, Oregon is at least a 2 seed. Could easily be a 1 seed, though. That 32-point shellacking by Illinois doesn't look great. Other than that one game, there resume is as close to flawless as you could ask for.
Oregon's one of those teams that has a significantly better resume than they project moving forward. They're a top 30 team with a top 10 resume.
What helps a team best during tournament time, close games or blowout wins against weak competition?
One thing I like about Oregon is they have a bunch of veteran guys who have played a ton of basketball (4th and 5th year guys) and they have a HOF coach who has been doing this for decades. They're going to win a lot of close games this year. Talent is good but not overwhelming but we've already seen them win most of their close games.
If Oregon wants to take it to the next level, they really need Bamba to step up and be the guy he was at Wazzu 2 years ago. So far he's had a very up and down year (and that's being nice about it).
Is Altman really a HoF coach? He has one Final Four but just a 17-16 record in the NCAA tournament.
I don't consider Matt Painter a HoFer (yet) and he's got a similar resume to Altman and is 12 years younger than him.
Altman wil be a HoF coach. He's got 770 career wins and is still going.
Yeah, but not all quad 1 wins are created equal. Beating Boise state on the road isn’t the same as beating duke on any court.
That’s not true, you have to look at all of the variables.
1) Boise State at home would be a crazy tough atmosphere for a bigger named school.
2) beating a freshmen heavy Duke in early November is not the same as beating them later in the season.
Duke is a quad 1A team and it doesn’t matter where you play them. So, they can't be a quad 1 team because they're freshmen heavy? I don't see that asterisk in the metrics anywhere.
Boise state is a Q1, but only if you play them on their home court.
Honestly, I just threw Boise out there, I really don't know if they are q1 or not, I was just using them as an example.
Not all Quad 1 wins are equal.
You’re the one that said that every quad 1 game isn’t the same. I was pointing out that I believe it’s more difficult to beat a good Boise team on the road than a freshmen led team in week 2. Duke is much better now than they were then, one of their top scorers (Evans) didn’t even play against Kentucky when you met.
I get it dude. You are a UL fan, it is inherently against your nature to give UK any credit. But c'mon dude, this is a really, really poor take.
It is asinine to think playing at Boise St is on the same level of playing Duke at a neutral site, regardless of when in the season it takes place. That is a delusional take. Try to at least have some objectivity.
You are the same guy who said UK will have 8-10 losses in the SEC and will be an 8-9 seed. Just admit this UK team is really good. It's not that hard.
Watch...UL has a good squad this year. They have managed to overcome a few injuries and are a favorite to possibly finish second in the ACC. They are positioning themselves nicely for a potential 6 to 7 seed if they keep playing like this. See, not hard.
Why is that asinine? Do you think Kentucky played Ohio State with the same intensity as they did Duke? Kentucky had Duke on its mind all summer and never thought about a team like Ohio State or Clemson. That goes with every school, Boise State was looking forward to the Oregon game all summer.
You would be the only one that feels that way.
You do realize that Boise State has already lost at home to Washington State by 5 and SDSU by 8, right? Do you think duke would lose to either of those teams in any arena?
Oregon is 25th in Kenpom right now. What’s the lowest rated Kenpom team to ever be a 1 seed?
The quad wins have zero to do with your rank. You don’t get credit in your ranking for beating a quad 1 or 2 team. You get credit for beating a team by a lot of points.
Do you realize that Northern Illinois beat ND @ ND? ND is playing for the championship Monday. Teams don’t get up for every lesser opponent. If you don’t understand that then we just see differently. When we played against y’all in Rupp, we were the first major home game y’all had, your fans were so juiced it got your teams adrenaline up for it.
LOL, you're comparing football to basketball to make your point?
That doesn't translate. Boise State lost at home to WASU and SDSU at home, there is no way either of those teams is beating duke.
What does that have to do with duke and Boise State this year?
Pope coached at freaking BYU, lets not act like BYU had a stacked roster.
Oregon has a lot of experience. Factor that in with all of the close wins, and I'd easily give them a edge in crunch time over a team that is more or less equal in talent. Oregon knows how to get it done... but, I'd certainly side with a more talented team (top 10) over Oregon when making picks in the NCAA Tournament.
Shelstad got off to a rough start and he's quickly turned things around. Perhaps Bamba can turn it around in a similar fashion. They'll need steady production from both players if they're going to make the 2nd weekend.
Pre-Tournament is a tie between Washington (2005) and Xavier (2018). They were both 14th Pre-Tournament.
If Oregon somehow manages to keep winning, you couldn't deny them a 1 seed. I think 5 losses or fewer would easily clinch a 1 seed ( 6 losses might be enough, too). I think they might have a few more losses, though, maybe 7-8. If I were going to guess, I'd say they end up with a 3 seed.
