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*Official* B1G In-Season Thread

Actually really don’t want to play them. It would be great to win but if UM wins the whole narrative will be spun, even though we would have won 2-3.
I think it’s pretty clear MSU is slightly better than UM this season.
 
I think it’s pretty clear MSU is slightly better than UM this season.
I agree, but I live in the metro Detroit area. UM fans think they had a bad game the first game and got screwed the second game. They’re unbearable. If they beat us tomorrow I wouldn’t here the end of it, even though we would have won 2 out of 3.

To be clear, I don’t mean all UM basketball fans. Just the ones who love football and only care about basketball when UM’s good.
 
I think it’s pretty clear MSU is slightly better than UM this season.

Yeah, our beat up squad is better than UM at full strength. I do think there is a breaking point though and Winston limping is not good. I would just bench him for the game.
 
Yeah, our beat up squad is better than UM at full strength. I do think there is a breaking point though and Winston limping is not good. I would just bench him for the game.
but, Michigan's record is better as of now, and MSU hasn't played Michigan at full strength either.
 
I agree, but I live in the metro Detroit area. UM fans think they had a bad game the first game and got screwed the second game. They’re unbearable. If they beat us tomorrow I wouldn’t here the end of it, even though we would have won 2 out of 3.

To be clear, I don’t mean all UM basketball fans. Just the ones who love football and only care about basketball when UM’s good.

I don’t think we got screwed. I think we played like shit both games.
 
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I’m not saying MSU isn’t better, but too much weight can be put on head to head results sometimes. Michigan’s best weapon is Simpson locking up the other teams PG but Winston is impossible to shut down so it ends up being a bad matchup for Michigan.

Indiana swept Michigan State but that doesn’t make Indiana anywhere close to as good as Michigan State. MSU had a couple off games and/or Indiana played good those games.
 
Actually really don’t want to play them. It would be great to win but if UM wins the whole narrative will be spun, even though we would have won 2-3.

Don’t want to play you guys either.

Win? We are still down 2-1 and now have to hear about how meaningless the big ten tournament.

Lose? 3-0 sweep.
 
I’m not saying MSU isn’t better, but too much weight can be put on head to head results sometimes. Michigan’s best weapon is Simpson locking up the other teams PG but Winston is impossible to shut down so it ends up being a bad matchup for Michigan.

Indiana swept Michigan State but that doesn’t make Indiana anywhere close to as good as Michigan State. MSU had a couple off games and/or Indiana played good those games.
Yeah my comment was more because they won the big ten, rated higher on Kenpom even with the injuries, I think they’re a lot better offensively than UM, plus you throw in the head to head results just to top it off.
 
He’s not even trolling you, dude, or making excuses. He just corrected you.

I don’t think he’s trolling me either.

I guess if MSU has Ward and Langford and Ahrens at full strength we blow UM out of the building. But yeah, Matthews and that sprained ankle. I’m all shook up over it.
 
Shoutout to @boilerzz for introducing me to Delphi Bracketology. I’ve been following their tweets and those guys are awesome. Seriously appreciate it.
 
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My take on Michigan and MSU is this- MSU's 'average' is slightly better than Michigan, but when Michigan is playing their A game they have a (slightly) higher ceiling.

I disagree 100%. Our A game beats them every time and that’s our B squad A game. Not even bringing in a healthy Ahrens, Ward, and Langford.
 
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matthews played for 20 minutes with a sprained ankle, which he shouldnt have. the reason he was out game 2 was the injury from the game at crisler.
A UM fan complaining to MSU fans this season about injuries. Wow. That’s a first.

Josh Langford is done for the season.Nick Ward, and Kyle Ahrens have missed significant time. Mcquaid missed some time. Cash has knee tendinitis and a toe injury right now.

But yeah, sorry Charles Matthews only played 20 minutes one game and missed the next.
 
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I don’t think he’s trolling me either.

I guess if MSU has Ward and Langford and Ahrens at full strength we blow UM out of the building. But yeah, Matthews and that sprained ankle. I’m all shook up over it.

I’m not sure why you’re getting weird over this. All he did was point out that Michigan had an injured starter in a game you said they were full strength in. Nothing less nothing more.
 
I disagree 100%. Our A game beats them every time and that’s our B squad A game. Not even bringing in a healthy Ahrens, Ward, and Langford.
Yes, a fully healthy MSU’s A game is better than UM’s fully healthy A game.

But MSU isn’t fully healthy. So there is no point in having that argument.
 
Yeah my comment was more because they won the big ten, rated higher on Kenpom even with the injuries, I think they’re a lot better offensively than UM, plus you throw in the head to head results just to top it off.
As of now MSU looks marginally better, other sites like torvik have Michigan 4th msu 7th, either way they are both close to top 5.
 
A UM fan complaining to MSU fans this season about injuries. Wow. That’s a first.

Josh Langford is done for the season.Nick Ward, and Kyle Ahrens have missed significant time. Mcquaid missed some time. Cash has knee tendinitis and a toe injury right now.

But yeah, sorry Charles Matthews only played 20 minutes one game and missed the next.

Read the conversation, man. The MSU poster said Michigan lost at full strength. All that guy did was point out that Michigan wasn’t at full strength. What’s so wrong about that?
 
As of now MSU looks marginally better, other sites like torvik have Michigan 4th msu 7th, either way they are both close to top 5.
I can show you 20 other metrics that has MSU higher. Most do
 
I disagree 100%. Our A game beats them every time and that’s our B squad A game. Not even bringing in a healthy Ahrens, Ward, and Langford.
ok but, msu's A game with langford resulted in a 5 point loss to kansas and a loss to louisville. Michigan's A game beat North Carolina by 19 and Nova by 27 on the road.
 
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ok but, msu's A game with langford resulted in a 3 point loss to kansas and a loss to louisville. Michigan's A game beat North Carolina by 19 and Nova by 27 on the road.

Comparing single games is dumb. MSU is better head to head and probably better full strength. Right now the two teams are pretty even overall, though.
 
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ok but, msu's A game with langford resulted in a 5 point loss to kansas and a loss to louisville. Michigan's A game beat North Carolina by 19 and Nova by 27 on the road.
MSU wasn’t playing their A game those 2 games. MSU has gotten better as the season progressed even with injuries. UM has gotten worse, or has at least cooled off from the hot start that was helped by playing in Spain.
 
MSU wasn’t playing their A game those 2 games. MSU has gotten better as the season progressed even with injuries. UM has gotten worse, or has at least cooled off from the hot start that was helped by playing in Spain.

Not sure if cooled off is the right description. They aren’t consistent but the Michigan team we saw yesterday and today is every bit as the team we saw early this year.
 
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Not sure if cooled off is the right description. They aren’t consistent but the Michigan team we saw yesterday and today is every bit as the team we saw early this year.
Yeah, I guess. They were just on fire to start the year, and that was because of their Soain trip.

Same thing happened with the 2015-2016 MSU team that went undefeated in non conference but finished 3rd in the Big Ten.
 
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Why do you take issue with someone simply correcting an MSU poster saying Michigan was at full strength when they weren’t? SpartyRBS is a troll through and through but I wouldn’t expect you to care about a troll being corrected.
 
Read the conversation, man. The MSU poster said Michigan lost at full strength. All that guy did was point out that Michigan wasn’t at full strength. What’s so wrong about that?

This is true. UM was at full strength to begin the game but Matthews sprained his ankle.

Then MSU with their beat up B squad beat UM at home and then also beat them again at the Breslin Center to win the Big Ten regular season with Purdue.
 
This is true. UM was at full strength to begin the game but Matthews sprained his ankle.

Then MSU with their beat up B squad beat UM at home and then also beat them again at the Breslin Center to win the Big Ten regular season with Purdue.

That injury occurred like 2 minutes into the game. Saying Michigan was at full strength that game is odd. Throwing a fit because someone corrected you over that is even more odd.
 
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Why do you take issue with someone simply correcting an MSU poster saying Michigan was at full strength when they weren’t? SpartyRBS is a troll through and through but I wouldn’t expect you to care about a troll being corrected.
He said MSU hasn’t played UM at full strength yet. UM hasn’t played MSU at full strength yet either. I thought it was an odd point to make that UM had one player play 20 minutes even though the other team was decimated with injuries.

Not false, just really odd.
 
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That injury occurred like 2 minutes into the game. Saying Michigan was at full strength that game is odd. Throwing a fit because someone corrected you over that is even more odd.

Agree with this post. UM was at full strength to begin the game and then we beat them on their home court without Langford, Ward, and a limited Ahrens.
 
He said MSU hasn’t played UM at full strength yet. UM hasn’t played MSU at full strength yet either. I thought it was an odd point to make that UM had one player play 20 minutes even though the other team was decimated with injuries.

Not false, just really odd.

Did you hear Matthews sprained his ankle?
 
He said MSU hasn’t played UM at full strength yet. UM hasn’t played MSU at full strength yet either. I thought it was an odd point to make that UM had one player play 20 minutes even though the other team was decimated with injuries.

Not false, just really odd.

He was literally correcting the guy that said Michigan was at full strength in Ann Arbor. Why is that confusing? He didn’t say MSU was at full strength. He simply corrected the guy who said Michigan was.
 
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