The only "injury" I have heard of is the 3 game "injury" for a failed drug test.
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The only "injury" I have heard of is the 3 game "injury" for a failed drug test.
A little nugget I just noticed:
Assist Rate:
Carsen Edwards 23.6%
Rob Phinisee 21.7%
Romeo Langford 14.8%
Happ is the only non-PG in the Big Ten with a better assist rate than Carsen Edwards.
#NotAChucker
He would need to apply for the sixth-year waiver.
I know the NCAA has been more relaxed on approving those in recent years, but historically I believe it was more difficult if the first redshirt was just an eligibility saver rather than a medical redshirt, if that makes sense.
Nothing to do with what the NCAA does or does not do, but just for the record I would have loved to have 6 years of college paid for. 2+ years of being over 21 in college would have been dangerous/amazing.
The Athletic's take on the Big Ten's tourney chances (note - not a lock until you have enough wins to be one):
Big Ten
Hey, Big Ten! Welcome back! It’s so good to see you; you had us worried sick.
How can we put this, Big Ten? Last year was not your finest. Sure, Purdue and Michigan State had great seasons, Ohio State was a fun surprise and Michigan went on a buoyant romp to the national title game (though not before ending Ramblers Fever, which we still haven’t totally forgiven you for). Those teams were great and all, but they were all you had. For a 14-team conference with a proud hoops history, one that annually rakes eff-you-sized amounts of cable cash, four NCAA Tournament bids was kind of sad. You just weren’t yourself.
But look at you now! You seem so much better. No, really, you look great. How many bids are you working on? Ten? Eleven? Wow. Seriously, Big Ten: Good for you.
Should be in: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, Wisconsin, Nebraska
Work to do: Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland, Northwestern
Michigan (15-0, 4-0 – NET: 3, SOS: 63): Safety first, and all that. The Wolverines – who have, with minimal exception, treated their first 15 opponents the way Grave Digger treats old RVs – will be a lock sooner rather than later.
Michigan State (13-2, 4-0 – NET: 7, SOS: 14): At the time, the Spartans’ loss at Louisville felt like a big deal. Were the Cardinals a surprise defensive force? Was Michigan State going to be this turnover-prone forever? Both? How about neither: The Spartans, for their part, are unbeaten in eight games since, thanks in large part to a top-five offense that not only thrives on a balanced diet of shots but — most important — also isn’t coughing up turnovers at anywhere close to the rate that badly stunted recent Tom Izzo teams. This is a very big deal.
Ohio State (12-2, 2-1 – NET: 29, SOS: 67): Chris Holtmann’s immediate success at Ohio State was driven in large part by Keita Bates-Diop’s 2017-18 star turn, an all-around season so good it sent Bates-Diop straight to the league. It was fair to wonder whether Holtmann could sustain the momentum without him. The Buckeyes are just fine, thank you very much; if not for two winnable missed opportunities in Columbus (against Syracuse and Michigan State), this team would be 14-0.
Indiana (12-3, 3-1 – NET: 20, SOS: 64): Archie Miller’s years at Dayton were often defined by what his rosters didn’t have: size, depth, blue-chip talent. Year after year, he still made it work. Indiana is not Dayton, and any roster that includes the words “Romeo Langford” is way ahead of what the Flyers ran out. Yet Miller’s work in Bloomington has the same feel. While Langford and senior forward Juwan Morgan carry the offense, the rest of the Hoosiers are filling in the gaps around them, executing their specific instructions and designated roles. The result isn’t always pretty. (Remember when IU went to Duke? Don’t.) It has been effective, so much so that it would be a surprise if Indiana doesn’t play in the NCAA Tournament this season. The guy can seriously coach.
Wisconsin (11-4, 2-1 – NET: 17, SOS: 26): The 2017-18 season was basically Wisconsin’s Lost Weekend. With that uncharacteristic behavior now fully out of their system, the Badgers have returned to the comfortable, sensible routine that made them the league’s most reliable program for more than a decade. Turnover-allergic swing offense? Pack-line defense? A fourth-year senior forward posting player of the year-level efficiency splits? Check, check, check.
Nebraska (11-4, 1-3 – NET: 15, SOS: 79): No Big Ten team was damaged more by the league’s struggles a year ago. The Cornhuskers took a couple of so-so losses (and missed out on beating Kansas by a single point) in nonconference play; Tim Miles told his players they would have to do their best work in the league. They did. In any other year, a 13-5 Big Ten record would include, by mathematical necessity, at least four or five quality wins. Nebraska’s didn’t; to the NIT it went.
The good news: The Big Ten is better. So is Nebraska.
Purdue (9-5, 2-1 – NET: 22, SOS: 3): If today were Selection Sunday, the Boilermakers would be a fascinating test: How bought in on the NET is the committee exactly? Does Purdue get credit for playing a brutal schedule and posting promising per-possession margins throughout, even if that work hasn’t resulted in anything close to a marquee win? In reality, this particular bubble experiment feels unlikely to see the light of day. Sooner or later, Carsen Edwards and Co. will likely just settle the matter themselves.
Iowa (12-3, 1-3 – NET: 35, SOS: 76): After a third straight tournament berth in 2015-16, Fran McCaffery waved farewell to four stalwart seniors. The timeless cycle of rebuilding – the more patient, old-school approach to sustaining a program, particularly one that doesn’t welcome fresh lottery picks every summer – began anew. This is Year 3, so to speak. The Hawkeyes, once again led by experienced juniors and seniors, are making a push toward the postseason, boasting wins over Iowa State and Nebraska. There’s nothing flashy or really all that exciting about that, or about any of the above, but hey, whatever works.
Minnesota (12-2, 2-1 – NET: 38, SOS: 56): The Golden Gophers didn’t set the world alight in nonconference play. They lost at Boston College, which we generally don’t recommend, especially when its one of three Q1 or Q2 games in the entire non-league schedule. Minnesota’s primary goal, simply put, is to make this résumé remotely interesting to look at. A Jan. 3 win at Wisconsin was an excellent way to start.
Maryland (12-3, 3-1 – NET: 32, SOS: 37): Squeezing two 6-foot-10 NBA prospects into the same collegiate frontcourt isn’t easy. Mark Turgeon might disagree. He has configured sophomore Bruno Fernando and freshman Jaylen Smith in ways that have generated a steady supply of interior buckets for the Terps and shrunk that supply for their opponents. Maryland gave UVa a game in College Park, lost to Purdue by a bucket and to Seton Hall by four, which is how a team can be both promising and in real need of quality wins at the same time.
Big Ten
Hey, Big Ten! Welcome back! It’s so good to see you; you had us worried sick.
How can we put this, Big Ten? Last year was not your finest. Sure, Purdue and Michigan State had great seasons, Ohio State was a fun surprise and Michigan went on a buoyant romp to the national title game (though not before ending Ramblers Fever, which we still haven’t totally forgiven you for). Those teams were great and all, but they were all you had. For a 14-team conference with a proud hoops history, one that annually rakes eff-you-sized amounts of cable cash, four NCAA Tournament bids was kind of sad. You just weren’t yourself.
But look at you now! You seem so much better. No, really, you look great. How many bids are you working on? Ten? Eleven? Wow. Seriously, Big Ten: Good for you.
Should be in: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, Wisconsin, Nebraska
Work to do: Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland, Northwestern
Michigan (15-0, 4-0 – NET: 3, SOS: 63): Safety first, and all that. The Wolverines – who have, with minimal exception, treated their first 15 opponents the way Grave Digger treats old RVs – will be a lock sooner rather than later.
Michigan State (13-2, 4-0 – NET: 7, SOS: 14): At the time, the Spartans’ loss at Louisville felt like a big deal. Were the Cardinals a surprise defensive force? Was Michigan State going to be this turnover-prone forever? Both? How about neither: The Spartans, for their part, are unbeaten in eight games since, thanks in large part to a top-five offense that not only thrives on a balanced diet of shots but — most important — also isn’t coughing up turnovers at anywhere close to the rate that badly stunted recent Tom Izzo teams. This is a very big deal.
Ohio State (12-2, 2-1 – NET: 29, SOS: 67): Chris Holtmann’s immediate success at Ohio State was driven in large part by Keita Bates-Diop’s 2017-18 star turn, an all-around season so good it sent Bates-Diop straight to the league. It was fair to wonder whether Holtmann could sustain the momentum without him. The Buckeyes are just fine, thank you very much; if not for two winnable missed opportunities in Columbus (against Syracuse and Michigan State), this team would be 14-0.
Indiana (12-3, 3-1 – NET: 20, SOS: 64): Archie Miller’s years at Dayton were often defined by what his rosters didn’t have: size, depth, blue-chip talent. Year after year, he still made it work. Indiana is not Dayton, and any roster that includes the words “Romeo Langford” is way ahead of what the Flyers ran out. Yet Miller’s work in Bloomington has the same feel. While Langford and senior forward Juwan Morgan carry the offense, the rest of the Hoosiers are filling in the gaps around them, executing their specific instructions and designated roles. The result isn’t always pretty. (Remember when IU went to Duke? Don’t.) It has been effective, so much so that it would be a surprise if Indiana doesn’t play in the NCAA Tournament this season. The guy can seriously coach.
Wisconsin (11-4, 2-1 – NET: 17, SOS: 26): The 2017-18 season was basically Wisconsin’s Lost Weekend. With that uncharacteristic behavior now fully out of their system, the Badgers have returned to the comfortable, sensible routine that made them the league’s most reliable program for more than a decade. Turnover-allergic swing offense? Pack-line defense? A fourth-year senior forward posting player of the year-level efficiency splits? Check, check, check.
Nebraska (11-4, 1-3 – NET: 15, SOS: 79): No Big Ten team was damaged more by the league’s struggles a year ago. The Cornhuskers took a couple of so-so losses (and missed out on beating Kansas by a single point) in nonconference play; Tim Miles told his players they would have to do their best work in the league. They did. In any other year, a 13-5 Big Ten record would include, by mathematical necessity, at least four or five quality wins. Nebraska’s didn’t; to the NIT it went.
The good news: The Big Ten is better. So is Nebraska.
Purdue (9-5, 2-1 – NET: 22, SOS: 3): If today were Selection Sunday, the Boilermakers would be a fascinating test: How bought in on the NET is the committee exactly? Does Purdue get credit for playing a brutal schedule and posting promising per-possession margins throughout, even if that work hasn’t resulted in anything close to a marquee win? In reality, this particular bubble experiment feels unlikely to see the light of day. Sooner or later, Carsen Edwards and Co. will likely just settle the matter themselves.
Iowa (12-3, 1-3 – NET: 35, SOS: 76): After a third straight tournament berth in 2015-16, Fran McCaffery waved farewell to four stalwart seniors. The timeless cycle of rebuilding – the more patient, old-school approach to sustaining a program, particularly one that doesn’t welcome fresh lottery picks every summer – began anew. This is Year 3, so to speak. The Hawkeyes, once again led by experienced juniors and seniors, are making a push toward the postseason, boasting wins over Iowa State and Nebraska. There’s nothing flashy or really all that exciting about that, or about any of the above, but hey, whatever works.
Minnesota (12-2, 2-1 – NET: 38, SOS: 56): The Golden Gophers didn’t set the world alight in nonconference play. They lost at Boston College, which we generally don’t recommend, especially when its one of three Q1 or Q2 games in the entire non-league schedule. Minnesota’s primary goal, simply put, is to make this résumé remotely interesting to look at. A Jan. 3 win at Wisconsin was an excellent way to start.
Maryland (12-3, 3-1 – NET: 32, SOS: 37): Squeezing two 6-foot-10 NBA prospects into the same collegiate frontcourt isn’t easy. Mark Turgeon might disagree. He has configured sophomore Bruno Fernando and freshman Jaylen Smith in ways that have generated a steady supply of interior buckets for the Terps and shrunk that supply for their opponents. Maryland gave UVa a game in College Park, lost to Purdue by a bucket and to Seton Hall by four, which is how a team can be both promising and in real need of quality wins at the same time.
Think you're definition of chucker is different than mine. Mine is a guy that hunts his own shots and takes a ton of them every single game. And let's be honest, it's not like Carsen is taking wide open shots all game every game. He's averaging almost 20 shots per game. #definitelyachucker
It is/was a lot more common in football than basketball.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-redshirt-rule-in-place-for-coaches/37236919/
The new rule should also cut down on the shenanigans that occur when a coach plays a player for a game or two, changes his mind and then, suddenly, the player has an injury and appeals to the NCAA for a medical redshirt.
"There's probably no more faking injuries after game three, which everybody did," West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen said.
https://madison.com/wsj/sports/coll...cle_b9b42509-1b1d-5d40-96f2-53e7f2c5e3b8.html
https://lancasteronline.com/sports/...cle_94756e0c-d7c6-5b04-b529-0a8c4388da4b.html
https://madison.com/sports/college/...cle_efec37b6-0853-11e2-ad6a-0019bb2963f4.html
Maryland @ Minnesota is the undercard tonight. Who you got @bMORE607 and @Deathclutch ?
I'm intrigued by the matchups on the frontline.
I'm intrigued by the matchups on the frontline.
Hoping Maryland pulls it out so they're riding high when we play them this Friday.
Don't fvck this up @bMORE607
I said it could be argued.
Poole and Iggy because Michigan would struggle without their scoring.
Matthews because he is the most complete player we have and when he is on out ceiling is really high.
Teske because his backup is not good at all.
But at the end of the day it’s probably Simpson. Regardless, the point of the post you quoted was to show that there are Michigan fans out there that agree with pig1960. I wasn’t personally saying that it’s Simpson by a mile.
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That’s such a dumb way to look at things.
Houston out scored Indianapolis in the second half. Texans must feel good about that!
Good point. Did you see him talk about losing that freshman PG?
Haha, fair. I was at the old end of the spectrum for my grade so I turned 21 the summer after my sophomore year. Only downside is you end up being the gopher for booze for a few months.
100%... felt bad for a guy that lived with me my sophomore year. Lots and lots of runs haha.
He scan score at all three levels and plays solid defense. He is a bit undersized but is an NBA draft pick if he left this year. I'm hoping he doesn't.
Yeah you can...it doesn't matter which of your 4 years are the redshirt years. For a medical its applied for AFTER your 5th year .
i couldn't believe a few posters thought you were serious....wow
you suggesting Haas wasn't one of the best shooters in the league last year??? 62% from the field. SIXTY TWO PERCENT!
You're right. Juwan Morgan is a good shooter but Isaac Haas was even better. The stats do not lie.
Lol you didn't include the part where I said it's all relative because at that point they were facing a team up by 19 points.
So, it's not the same as facing a team that you're tied with. With understanding basic human nature...you know that it's not the same effort given. But, you already knew what I meant and was just trying to start something up. That's the only possible explanation of why you went out of your way to only post the part where it made it seem like I wasn't acknowledging this.
I could be wrong, but I think the biggest reason people are calling him a chucker, is because Purdue's #1 fan has repeatedly called Romeo that on your home site.
You call it relative, I call it meaningless. Michigan led start to finish. Michigan outscored Indiana over the final 10 minutes. Etc. etc.
A loss is a loss is a loss. Yeah, we battled, but we started shitty again and couldn't close the gap enough.
Yeah, I honestly don't understand anyone on this one. I feel pretty confident that he's taking all of those shots simply because that's what the coach is wanting...because that gives your team the best chance to win.
Imo that isn't a "chucker" (I can't believe how many times that damn word has been used in this thread)
I'll say it again, I think it's only being said because of what the douchebag said over on gold and black about Romeo.
Lmao...dear God dude...when you think you picked up on something you just completely close your mind off to Any other possible outcomes. That's the exact same thing I was saying lol. But since you at first glance thought I meant something different, it didn't matter how many times I said it. In your mind I was saying what you were thinking.
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