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****Official B1G In-Season Thread****

This is such a Wisconsin and Michigan fan argument. Talking like they still have the coaches (and players that came with them) that got them accomplishments in March.

NIT time now though.

The vast majority of minutes on the Elite 8 run weren’t Beilein players.
 
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It’s March baby
 
No one cares about their irrelevant athletic department outside of Champaign-Urbana. In the largest city in that state yore far more likely to see people wearing Michigan or Ohio State stuff than Illini gear


Exactly. In the Quad Cities you never see them in football when they are bad, which is all the time and see them for a couple weeks in the basketball season until they realize they still suck

Total fairweather
 
I asked your opinion on Howard, you brought up Woodson for no good reason other than being defensive and Michigans tournament chances going up in smoke.


You said this, which is incredibly arbitrary.

“How many bottom half of the league finishes will Howard be allowed until he's fired? As of now it's more than 3 of 4.”


And then later cried about something being arbitrary. Maybe brush up on the term and circle back.
 
They still won though. That’s all that matters. Nobody but losers care about anything else.
Bruce Weber went to a Title game with Self players too.

Unfortunately once those players leave it exposes how good the coach really is.

And right now, well, you know how they look
 
You said this, which is incredibly arbitrary.

“How many bottom half of the league finishes will Howard be allowed until he's fired? As of now it's more than 3 of 4.”


And then later cried about something being arbitrary. Maybe brush up on the term and circle back.
Arbitrary and I said I don't care so I didn't answer. You don't care about Howard? You pumped Howard all off season now you're scared to answer. Does the below list still hold true in your opinion?

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I suppose there are casuals everywhere, but (1) they probably cheer for Notre Dame in football and (2) NU is really in danger of losing that distinction vs. us in football at this point, haha.

I hope so. A decent contingent of home boarders wanted Harbaugh fired for Fitzgerald several years ago. It’s comical how stupid that looks now and I remind them often.
 
Arbitrary and I said I don't care so I didn't answer. You don't care about Howard? You pumped Howard all off season now you're scared to answer. Does the below list still hold true in your opinion?

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You’re one off-season behind on me pumping Howard. I was pretty quiet this last offseason.

You are crying about arbitrary again while using these arbitrary guidelines:

“How many bottom half of the league finishes will Howard be allowed until he's fired? As of now it's more than 3 of 4”
 
Bruce Weber went to a Title game with Self players too.

Unfortunately once those players leave it exposes how good the coach really is.

And right now, well, you know how they look
But he did it. There’s no asterisk in the books. They aren’t giving back the banner/rings. (Michigan notwithstanding).
 
I hope so. A decent contingent of home boarders wanted Harbaugh fired for Fitzgerald several years ago. It’s comical how stupid that looks now and I remind them often.
Fitzgerald is self aware enough to not leave NW for anywhere that has expectations. He knows how good his gig is. He just has his agent leak that he has interest in coaching the bears every few years and they give him a raise, no matter how inconsistent his results are
 
You’re one off-season behind on me pumping Howard. I was pretty quiet this last offseason.

You are crying about arbitrary again while using these arbitrary guidelines:

“How many bottom half of the league finishes will Howard be allowed until he's fired? As of now it's more than 3 of 4”
What's your definition of crying?
 
Livers, Brooks, and Wagner all due to Beilien.

We’ve been over this before

Livers didn’t play on the Elite 8 run.

Brooks was terrible before Juwan came.

Wagner committed to Juwan and never practiced a minute under Beilein.


Now do Mike Smith, Chaundee Brown, and Hunter Dickinson
 
Livers didn’t play on the Elite 8 run.

Brooks was terrible before Juwan came.

Wagner committed to Juwan and never practiced a minute under Beilein.


Now do Mike Smith, Chaundee Brown, and Hunter Dickinson
Livers was on the team all year, that got you a 1 seed.

Brooks was bad as an underclassman but good as a junior and senior? No way!!!

Wagner was a legacy recruit, thanks to Beilien.

Weird that he’s having such trouble without Beilien players. Must be a coincidence!!
 
But he did it. There’s no asterisk in the books. They aren’t giving back the banner/rings. (Michigan notwithstanding).
Unfortunately winning with other coaches players and doing nothing else isn’t going to trick people into thinking they are good to great coaches.

Weber still has his rings/banners, but truly being respected doesn’t come along with it.
 
Unfortunately winning with other coaches players and doing nothing else isn’t going to trick people into thinking they are good to great coaches.

Weber still has his rings/banners, but truly being respected doesn’t come along with it.
Hindsight is always going to be 20/20, and everyone will see Juwan was a mistake, IMO. We didn’t want to admit because we had just dominated the conference for 6+ years, but the warning signs were flashing with Weber as early as 2006 … literally one year after our best season ever.
 
Hindsight is always going to be 20/20, and everyone will see Juwan was a mistake, IMO. We didn’t want to admit because we had just dominated the conference for 6+ years, but the warning signs were flashing with Weber as early as 2006 … literally one year after our best season ever.
Funny I tried to say the same comparing Underwood to Crean and that got laughed at. Here we are.
 
Livers was on the team all year, that got you a 1 seed.

Brooks was bad as an underclassman but good as a junior and senior? No way!!!

Wagner was a legacy recruit, thanks to Beilien.

Weird that he’s having such trouble without Beilien players. Must be a coincidence!!

Are you going to give credit to Juwan for Eli’s improvement?

Livers literally didn’t play in the tournament wins

Wagner never practiced or committed under Beilein.


To act like the Elite 8 run was all because of Beilein is reaching.
 
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Are you going to give credit to Juwan for Eli’s improvement?

Livers literally didn’t play in the tournament wins

Wagner never practiced or committed under Beilein.


To act like the Elite 8 run was all because of Beilein is reaching.
Beilien left the veteran pieces and a lottery pick legacy to build around.

Trying to argue otherwise is dumb.
 
Donta Scott shooting this well from three tonight makes me so happy. Feel free to cast tomorrow Donta, I’m sure you’ll have the same success
 
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