Idk what else Purdue could do for you to vault them to in the conversation for the best or 2nd best team in the country lol they’re definitely in the conversation. Just beat the 4th ranked team in the country for crying out loud.
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Right? Beat Villanova on a neutral court that UCLA needed OT at home to beat (and not even playing our best game). Plus beat top 25 UNC on a neutral court. Pretty clearly #2 right behind Zags
Do you realize in basketball we use power 6 and include the Big East? Power 5 is a football term. Seton Hall is a tournament team. That’s not what anyone means by scheduling cupcakes.
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Why would anyone be acting like that’s a mid major conference?
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"Team A in this conference is elite, therefore the unranked one is also elite"
You acted like the Big East isn't a legit conference because they aren't a "Power 5" conference". Basketball uses "Power 6"
And who said anything about elite? All I said was that Seton Hall isn't a cupcake. They aren't. They are a tournament team.
I never said they were a cupcake, I said an unranked team. Reading comprehension is key, but you like to twist people's words, it's what you do.
The discussion was literally about cupcakes.
Me: I wish Michigan had scheduled more cupcakes early.
You: You literally lost to a non-power 5 unranked team, so your strategy isn't really working.
That reads really weird if you weren't calling Seton Hall a cupcake. So do we agree Seton Hall is a legit tournament team then? Make up your mind.
Saying Kopp is better than Sasha was an egregious take.
Probably not....But you did get a huge boost from Thompson(4-4 from three)----hit your last 12 shots, and had a team that entered the game shooting 89% from the FT line, go 9-17.
Purdue is really good. But lets not pretend some things didn't go your way.
Score comparing is sillly....
I wouldn't put Purdue ahead of Gonzaga or Kansas. Probably UCLA as well. All have the ability to match Purdue on the boards, and in the paint. When Purdue went small today, TBH, Nova kind of dominated the game---pushed the lead out to 11. IF Nova had a servicable 6'10+ guy, they very well may have won today.
Not to mention, Edey/Williams have issues gurading on the perimeter....A team like GU, KU, UCLA, Duke can/could, and probably would exploit that a lot more than Nova was able to.
I like this Purdue team. Clearly a FF/title contender. No argument there. But I wouldn't say they are clearly #2 behind Gonzaga----I mean it took an unbelievable shooting performance over the final 6 minutes(12-12) to beat an undersized, out manned , Villanova team.
Jaden Ivey and Trevion Williams combined for 19 total and beat Villanova. If you told me that going into the season I wouldn’t have believed you at all.
It might not work out this way in the end but Purdue looks better than Michigan.
It might not work out this way in the end but Purdue looks better than Michigan.
I mean, they did have issues---a lot. Just b/c a team wins, doesn't mean they didn't have issues. Painter made some adjustments, late/mid late, 2nd half....Purdue had no answer for Nova's ball screens, that constantly got them wide open looks----They ran the exact play 4 consecutive times....4 4 consecutive open looks....and made 4 straight shots. But kudo's to Painter for adjusting----but also, Nova getting tired(Purdue is deep, and played a huge role in that). Purdue also had problems with Nova's "bigs" on the perimeter....Edey, nor Williams could guard them, and it led to a ton of open looks from three.
Lets not act as if Purdue just trained wrecked Nova. You guys were down 11, and the proceed to hit your last 12 shots(from the field),and pretty sure was perfect from the line as well. So for a 7+ minute stretch, you guys were damn near perfect, and still, with 20 seconds to go, it was a 2 possession game.
Otte I love this Purdue team. Deep. Athletic...ton of offensive weapons. Legit FF team. But there are some issues, and at times, Nova exploited that.
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They definitely look better early. I think most had them similar going into the season with the expectation that Michigan would eventually gel like we did last year. We'll see if that happens.
Nova & UNC were 2 of the toughest matchups for Purdue’s defense from a personnel standpoint in the country & Purdue won both games. I didn’t say Purdue was perfect but there isn’t some boogey-man matchup that would be insurmountable for Purdue to overcome. It’s comments like:
“..A team like GU, KU, UCLA, Duke can/could, and probably would exploit that a lot more than Nova was able to.”
in which im responding to.
I still think the two teams are similar. Both will be top 5 at the end of the regular season IMO.
It makes sense Purdue would be better early. Not very much roster turnover at all. UM has a lot of new pieces. I think who will be better come tournament time is definitely up for debate.
Who said there are teams that would be insurmountable(for PU to beat)? I didn't. Nor did I imply it. My comment of teams like Gonzaga, KU, UCLA, etc, etc...being able to exploit that better than Nova isn't a slight----Its an opinion---An opinion that those teams are better than Villanova, and have more weapons than Nova---and have 3's/4's that are better than Nova, and thus can/COULD, and PROBABLY would, cause more issues.
I don't think there's a team out there that Purdue cannot beat. Especially if they shoot the way they did the last 7 or so minutes. Purdue can beat you in a lot of ways---off the dribble, from three, or the post....Most certainly a Top 5 team. But you said this was a team(Nova) that IU fans in the past would say, "would give Purdue issues"---WHich is true. But to be fair, IU fans think that about everyone Purdue plays.....Its called not liking your asses. BUT.....most basketball people felt Nova would give Purdue trouble----and well, they did. I said it before the game that Purdue would have issues with guarding Nova's bigs on the perimeter----and they did---Or that the way Nova screens would cause issues---and it did.
Its not a slight, dude. Its just a basketball observation. I mean **** I have said 100x's that Purdue is very good, legit FF good, and you wanna cry b/c I said "Teams like KU, GU, UCLA, would, could, might, probably would, possibility, cause more issues"?
JFC.....
Yes, it will be more difficult for Purdue to beat the best teams in the country compared to others. Nova was the prime example of a team that could shoot from all 5 positions & Purdue won is the point.
Which was my point.....Not sure whats so bad what i said??? Is it b/c I'm an IU fan? Purdue beat a really good Nova team...A team that very well could get to the FF. I mean Nova with a legit big, would be scary....Shooters everywhere, surrounded by a Trevion like post presence?
Yikes.
Very good, gutsy win by the Boilers.
That’s a part of the game. Just take your medicine little man.
No, it’s just funny to me. “If Purdue plays an elite team besides the one they just beat, they will likely struggle with teams that have good bigs that are surrounded by good shooters.”
Which is in of itself what makes Purdue so tough to play against & literally everybody in the country struggles to beat those type of teams because that’s what makes them the best.
Injuries played a role in a few losses sure but they’re not the difference between a bowl season and possibly going winless in B1G play. You guys weren’t good before injuries. The first game of the season against Iowa was a big eye-opener.
What is funny about it? I don't think you understand my post?? UCLA, GU,etc, etc....are for one, deeper(Nova played 6 dudes),they can create more issues than Nova did----not talking about shooting wise. THey have the size to compete with PU. I never mentioned anything about teams with elite bigs, surrounded by good shooters.....I mean, thats Purdue. Elite bigs---surrounded by good shooters. Its like you didn't read what I said, and immediately took it as a slight, and well----I dunno.
Nova is good. FF good, possibly; need to develop a bench. Those dudes were gassed at the 8 minute mark. But even then, they are still quite capable of getting to the FF.
Purdue has all the tools needed to not only get to a FF, but to win a title.
The whole point behind what I said is when it was mentioned Purdue is clearly #2, behind Gonzaga. I don't agree with that. And gave the reason why. Just a basketball observation.
Meh....Somewhat true. The score vs Iowa really wasn't AS bad, as it seemed. Yeah, 34-6 is bad. But the start, turnovers, Pick 6's, and one big play, pretty much cemented the game. After that, it was just get it over. I wouldn't say we weren't good before the injuries....But we wasn't as good as thought. Then we had the transfers...injuries, etc, etc....Our best receiver unable to make easy catches....Just snowballed.
Kind of a fools gold,so to speak....Penix isn't/wasn't the elite QB many thought. Tuttle struggled. Our OL was bad---which was a tad surprising.
But now----? Yeah, we bad. Real bad.
FTR, I hope next year our starting QB is McCulley.
If it’s just part of the game, why did you use the injury excuse so much fat man?
They are 100% the difference between a bowl game and not.
They have basically the same team they had last year. Our true freshman QB has been awful. With a healthy Penix we make a bowl easy.
You had a ton of guys regress from a year ago that had nothing to do with injuries. Fryfogle turned into a bum somehow. OL got worse and your RB room lost a lot.
When was the last time Penix was healthy? He was clearly healthy enough to start this year. He just wasnt any good.
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