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You played at Michigan when multiple starters we had before the season opt out than you played us with NO FANS in the stands lol

Ridiculous
We also had multiple players opt out so not a one sided issue. That’s just lame as hell man. Michigan won the Big Ten title with no fans in the stands. Does that count? I’m sure it does to you. So why shouldn’t our win in football count to you lol.
 
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You can’t celebrate what happened (MSU beating Michigan in football) when it’s good and then deny what else happened (Michigan beating MSU in Ann Arbor) when it’s bad.
I said COVID hasn’t helped any team more than you guys, never said your win over us didn’t count or shouldn’t count.
 
I just want to reiterate that Michigan was playing like shit, had COVID issues and rescheduled 2 games for the later in the season and ended up winning both. I doubt they win either if they were played at the time.

Michigan will end up making the tournament because of their COVID issues. Just like they win the Big Ten last year. Just like they dodged an OSU ass whooping in football. I mean I seriously can’t think of a school COVID has been more beneficial for.

Maybe we still beat MSU or Purdue. Maybe we don’t. Who knows?

Maybe without have such a loaded and squeezed in schedule over the last two weeks we don’t lose to both Illinois and Iowa at home. Who knows?

Your post is loaded with revisionist history for someone crying about revisionist history.
 
We also had multiple players opt out so not a one sided issue. That’s just lame as hell man. Michigan won the Big Ten title with no fans in the stands. Does that count? I’m sure it does to you. So why shouldn’t our win in football count to you lol.
It does lol I’m saying stop with the whole Michigan big ten title has an asterisk
 
It does lol I’m saying stop with the whole Michigan big ten title has an asterisk
Oh ok got you. I’ve repeatedly said you guys win the Big Ten title and no one can take that away from you. Last year as an MSU fan I think I was pretty clearly agreeing Hail that their remaining games they likely win.

Wasn’t trying to say your seasons are worth less, but I think it’s interesting how Michigan was put in potentially advantageous positions by COVID 19 cancellations and reschedules, not just the COVID environment, in back to back basketball season. It may have changed absolutely nothing, but it also may have changed everything.

MSU also potentially benefitted from the cancellations last year. We got some big wins in off of reschedules.
 
Rutgers:

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Naw we probably scored too much in the first half and didn't save any for tomorrow.
 
Oh ok got you. I’ve repeatedly said you guys win the Big Ten title and no one can take that away from you. Last year as an MSU fan I think I was pretty clearly agreeing Hail that their remaining games they likely win.

Wasn’t trying to say your seasons are worth less, but I think it’s interesting how Michigan was put in potentially advantageous positions by COVID 19 cancellations and reschedules, not just the COVID environment, in back to back basketball season. It may have changed absolutely nothing, but it also may have changed everything.

MSU also potentially benefitted from the cancellations last year. We got some big wins in off of reschedules.

We lost out on 3 of the easiest conference opponents of our season last year. Potentially advantageous, potentially disadvantageous.
 
Quick look at each team's potential seeding as we progress through the Big Ten Tournament:

Illinois- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 4 seed.) Illinois is pretty solidly locked in as a 4 seed on most brackets, and can only go up from here, especially if they come out with a BTT title and get a little help along the way.

Projection: 2 seed

Wisconsin- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 3 seed) Most fully expect Wisconsin to end up on that 3 line regardless given the potential for others around them to climb, along with the loss to 10-win Nebraska fresh in everyone's minds (even though the committee is not supposed to have recency bias....) Barring a Finals run in the BTT, Wisconsin is probably gonna fall off that 2 line.

Projection- 3 seed

Purdue- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 4 seed) Purdue is another where the BTT can actually swing their fortunes one way or another. Its hard not to see the struggles they've had down the stretch even though they've only lost 6 games on the year. Purdue sits comfortably as a 3 seed right now, but an early exit in the BTT could open the door for other teams to pass them. Conversely, a return to form given their preseason expectations could see them claim that coveted 2 seed that is up for grabs between the top 3 teams in the Big Ten.

Projection- 3 seed

Iowa- (Best case: 5 seed, Worst case: 7 seed) Iowa probably has the simplest range to project here. Win today against Northwestern and they are guaranteed no worse than a 6 seed in the tournament. Lose and they will be a 7. In the unlikely case that they win the BTT, I don't think it will be enough to vault them all the way to a 4 seed unless they do so in very impressive fashion.

Projection- 6 seed

Ohio State- (Best case: 5 seed, Worst case: 7 seed) OSU is currently projected as a 6 seed, but they are definitely trending in the wrong direction. Much like Iowa, a loss today almost guarantees them the 7 seed. However, a win today doesn't necessarily assure them of keeping that 6.

Projection- 6 seed

Michigan State- Best case: 7 seed, Worst case: 10 seed) Unless the committee overcredits MSU/Izzo for winning the BTT, Sparty essentially will be using this tournament to decide whether they get to play a 2 seed or a 1 seed in the 2nd Rd.........Good luck! :D

Projection- 9 seed

Rutgers- (Best case: 8 seed, Worst case 11 seed) Rutgers fans need to stop worrying. You guys are in the dance. The main thing will be whether or not they do anything to improve their seeding. They will certainly have the opponents to boost their resume coming up.

Projection- 10 seed

Indiana- (Best case: 10 seed, Worse case: 12 seed)
With that comeback win over the Wolverines, Indiana should be in. A win over Illinois in the Qtrs will leave no doubt. In the meantime, Hoosiers fans should have their favorite hotel in Dayton on standby...........

Projection- 11/12 seed First Four

Michigan- (Best case: 11/12 seed First Four, Worst case: Out) At 17-14, regardless of what Michigan fans have heard, it is definitely nail-biting time. Depending on how things shake out with the remaining conference tournaments, Michigan could be in that other "Last Four In" game joining the Hoosiers in Dayton.

Projection- 11/12 seed First Four


** I put down 11/12 for the First Four but is it known which seeds are gonna be determined in those FF games? I see the 12 seeds are projected on Lunardi's bracket, but Jerry Palm has an 11/11 and a 12/12 game...............
 
Yeah I’d imagine if those 4 all leave we’d hit the transfer market. No they don’t need to be graduates.

Also, I’m still in wait and see mode with our other young guys. We have a laundry list of guards that took massive jumps from freshman to sophomore year. Collins and Bufkin showed some nice tools. Granted Howard is no Beilein.
Is Barnes redshirting? Don't recall seeing him at all this year.
 
Quick look at each team's potential seeding as we progress through the Big Ten Tournament:

Illinois- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 4 seed.) Illinois is pretty solidly locked in as a 4 seed on most brackets, and can only go up from here, especially if they come out with a BTT title and get a little help along the way.

Projection: 2 seed

Wisconsin- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 3 seed) Most fully expect Wisconsin to end up on that 3 line regardless given the potential for others around them to climb, along with the loss to 10-win Nebraska fresh in everyone's minds (even though the committee is not supposed to have recency bias....) Barring a Finals run in the BTT, Wisconsin is probably gonna fall off that 2 line.

Projection- 3 seed

Purdue- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 4 seed) Purdue is another where the BTT can actually swing their fortunes one way or another. Its hard not to see the struggles they've had down the stretch even though they've only lost 6 games on the year. Purdue sits comfortably as a 3 seed right now, but an early exit in the BTT could open the door for other teams to pass them. Conversely, a return to form given their preseason expectations could see them claim that coveted 2 seed that is up for grabs between the top 3 teams in the Big Ten.

Projection- 3 seed

Iowa- (Best case: 5 seed, Worst case: 7 seed) Iowa probably has the simplest range to project here. Win today against Northwestern and they are guaranteed no worse than a 6 seed in the tournament. Lose and they will be a 7. In the unlikely case that they win the BTT, I don't think it will be enough to vault them all the way to a 4 seed unless they do so in very impressive fashion.

Projection- 6 seed

Ohio State- (Best case: 5 seed, Worst case: 7 seed) OSU is currently projected as a 6 seed, but they are definitely trending in the wrong direction. Much like Iowa, a loss today almost guarantees them the 7 seed. However, a win today doesn't necessarily assure them of keeping that 6.

Projection- 6 seed

Michigan State- Best case: 7 seed, Worst case: 10 seed) Unless the committee overcredits MSU/Izzo for winning the BTT, Sparty essentially will be using this tournament to decide whether they get to play a 2 seed or a 1 seed in the 2nd Rd.........Good luck! :D

Projection- 9 seed

Rutgers- (Best case: 8 seed, Worst case 11 seed) Rutgers fans need to stop worrying. You guys are in the dance. The main thing will be whether or not they do anything to improve their seeding. They will certainly have the opponents to boost their resume coming up.

Projection- 10 seed

Indiana- (Best case: 10 seed, Worse case: 12 seed)
With that comeback win over the Wolverines, Indiana should be in. A win over Illinois in the Qtrs will leave no doubt. In the meantime, Hoosiers fans should have their favorite hotel in Dayton on standby...........

Projection- 11/12 seed First Four

Michigan- (Best case: 11/12 seed First Four, Worst case: Out) At 17-14, regardless of what Michigan fans have heard, it is definitely nail-biting time. Depending on how things shake out with the remaining conference tournaments, Michigan could be in that other "Last Four In" game joining the Hoosiers in Dayton.

Projection- 11/12 seed First Four


** I put down 11/12 for the First Four but is it known which seeds are gonna be determined in those FF games? I see the 12 seeds are projected on Lunardi's bracket, but Jerry Palm has an 11/11 and a 12/12 game...............
I was told an undefeated Michigan would be the overall #1 seed so I'll have to disagree, respectfully, with your analysis.
 
Quick look at each team's potential seeding as we progress through the Big Ten Tournament:

Illinois- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 4 seed.) Illinois is pretty solidly locked in as a 4 seed on most brackets, and can only go up from here, especially if they come out with a BTT title and get a little help along the way.

Projection: 2 seed

Wisconsin- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 3 seed) Most fully expect Wisconsin to end up on that 3 line regardless given the potential for others around them to climb, along with the loss to 10-win Nebraska fresh in everyone's minds (even though the committee is not supposed to have recency bias....) Barring a Finals run in the BTT, Wisconsin is probably gonna fall off that 2 line.

Projection- 3 seed

Purdue- (Best case: 2 seed, Worst case: 4 seed) Purdue is another where the BTT can actually swing their fortunes one way or another. Its hard not to see the struggles they've had down the stretch even though they've only lost 6 games on the year. Purdue sits comfortably as a 3 seed right now, but an early exit in the BTT could open the door for other teams to pass them. Conversely, a return to form given their preseason expectations could see them claim that coveted 2 seed that is up for grabs between the top 3 teams in the Big Ten.

Projection- 3 seed

Iowa- (Best case: 5 seed, Worst case: 7 seed) Iowa probably has the simplest range to project here. Win today against Northwestern and they are guaranteed no worse than a 6 seed in the tournament. Lose and they will be a 7. In the unlikely case that they win the BTT, I don't think it will be enough to vault them all the way to a 4 seed unless they do so in very impressive fashion.

Projection- 6 seed

Ohio State- (Best case: 5 seed, Worst case: 7 seed) OSU is currently projected as a 6 seed, but they are definitely trending in the wrong direction. Much like Iowa, a loss today almost guarantees them the 7 seed. However, a win today doesn't necessarily assure them of keeping that 6.

Projection- 6 seed

Michigan State- Best case: 7 seed, Worst case: 10 seed) Unless the committee overcredits MSU/Izzo for winning the BTT, Sparty essentially will be using this tournament to decide whether they get to play a 2 seed or a 1 seed in the 2nd Rd.........Good luck! :D

Projection- 9 seed

Rutgers- (Best case: 8 seed, Worst case 11 seed) Rutgers fans need to stop worrying. You guys are in the dance. The main thing will be whether or not they do anything to improve their seeding. They will certainly have the opponents to boost their resume coming up.

Projection- 10 seed

Indiana- (Best case: 10 seed, Worse case: 12 seed)
With that comeback win over the Wolverines, Indiana should be in. A win over Illinois in the Qtrs will leave no doubt. In the meantime, Hoosiers fans should have their favorite hotel in Dayton on standby...........

Projection- 11/12 seed First Four

Michigan- (Best case: 11/12 seed First Four, Worst case: Out) At 17-14, regardless of what Michigan fans have heard, it is definitely nail-biting time. Depending on how things shake out with the remaining conference tournaments, Michigan could be in that other "Last Four In" game joining the Hoosiers in Dayton.

Projection- 11/12 seed First Four


** I put down 11/12 for the First Four but is it known which seeds are gonna be determined in those FF games? I see the 12 seeds are projected on Lunardi's bracket, but Jerry Palm has an 11/11 and a 12/12 game...............
IU could definitely still end up OUT worst case.. and UM could definitely be in as an 11 not in the first 4 best case.

Pretty solid tho.
 
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