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*****Official B1G In Season Thread*****

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It's kind of bullshit if you think about it. If you win, it's a great win beating Rutgers at the rac, but they are still first four out in bracketology so it won't be considered a good win by the metrics. If you lose, it's a completely understandable loss to humans who know how hard it is to win there, but metrics will consider it a bad loss. Damn computers.
Rutgers is already up to 81 in the NET. They just need to move up 6 slots for that loss to be a Q1 loss. I'd wager they get there if they can go 3-3 against their remaining schedule.

Illinois
@ Purdue
@ Michigan
Wisconsin
@ Indiana
Penn State
 
Big Ten has two former players in the top 50 of the NBA....Bridges and Green.

No wonder this league never wins national titles. Hardly any top talent comes here anymore.

Arkansas, Texas, Alabama and LSU all have 2 five star recruits for next year.

While your point is not without merit, you're saying it like we haven't had multiple opportunities and last year's Tournament performance was anything other than the exception. While the Big Ten's lack of titles needs to be explained in some way and this is as good of a theory as any, the way you say it indicates we haven't had teams talented enough to win the NC. When you place nearly HALF of the conference in the National Title game since 2000, there is plenty of talent in the conference, and it's not as if these were all blowouts. We easily could have won multiple games in this timespan with a couple different bounces of the ball:

2002: Maryland over Indiana, 64-52 ... can we count this now?? ;) Not particularly close, though.
2005: North Carolina over Illinois, 75-70 ... game went down to garbage time free throws, and ILL played the final 8 minutes without its starting center to defend Shaun May.
2007: Florida over Ohio State, 84-75 ... that OSU team wins the title the year after, IMO ... just ran into a once-in-a-generation Florida squad.
2009: North Carolina over Michigan State, 89-72 ... UNC was probably more talented, but that was a damn good MSU team.
2013: Louisville over Michigan, 82-76 ... game went down to the wire.
2015: Duke over Wisconsin, 68-63 ... another game even close than the score indicates.
2018: Villanova over Michigan, 79-62 ... probably the best case of your point being true, IMO.

Again, I agree with you that the league needs more NBA talent and that this is part of the reason we haven't broken through since 2000. However, there have very clearly been multiple Big Ten teams "good enough" to theoretically win it all; it's not like last year is the norm, where tons of teams are getting bounced in the First and Second Rounds. This list doesn't even look at great Big Ten teams that didn't make the title game but were good enough to ... March Madness is a lot of luck, and that (along with your point) is part of the reason we haven't won it all in so long.
 
It's kind of bullshit if you think about it. If you win, it's a great win beating Rutgers at the rac, but they are still first four out in bracketology so it won't be considered a good win by the metrics. If you lose, it's a completely understandable loss to humans who know how hard it is to win there, but metrics will consider it a bad loss. Damn computers.
I was thinking about this today, but I think RU has a decent chance at entering the top 75 in the NET before the end of the year, which would make a hypothetical win tonight Q1 and our earlier win in Champaign a Q2 ... here's to hoping.
 
1st place with >40 games missed by rotation players. Excuses for being a first place team you mean?
You're so good I'm surprised you haven't beaten everyone by 20 points and lost only by a point in your losses.
 
While your point is not without merit, you're saying it like we haven't had multiple opportunities and last year's Tournament performance was anything other than the exception. While the Big Ten's lack of titles needs to be explained in some way and this is as good of a theory as any, the way you say it indicates we haven't had teams talented enough to win the NC. When you place nearly HALF of the conference in the National Title game since 2000, there is plenty of talent in the conference, and it's not as if these were all blowouts. We easily could have won multiple games in this timespan with a couple different bounces of the ball:

2002: Maryland over Indiana, 64-52 ... can we count this now?? ;) Not particularly close, though.
2005: North Carolina over Illinois, 75-70 ... game went down to garbage time free throws, and ILL played the final 8 minutes without its starting center to defend Shaun May.
2007: Florida over Ohio State, 84-75 ... that OSU team wins the title the year after, IMO ... just ran into a once-in-a-generation Florida squad.
2009: North Carolina over Michigan State, 89-72 ... UNC was probably more talented, but that was a damn good MSU team.
2013: Louisville over Michigan, 82-76 ... game went down to the wire.
2015: Duke over Wisconsin, 68-63 ... another game even close than the score indicates.
2018: Villanova over Michigan, 79-62 ... probably the best case of your point being true, IMO.

Again, I agree with you that the league needs more NBA talent and that this is part of the reason we haven't broken through since 2000. However, there have very clearly been multiple Big Ten teams "good enough" to theoretically win it all; it's not like last year is the norm, where tons of teams are getting bounced in the First and Second Rounds. This list doesn't even look at great Big Ten teams that didn't make the title game but were good enough to ... March Madness is a lot of luck, and that (along with your point) is part of the reason we haven't won it all in so long.
I think it should be March Sadness for the B1G.
 
Even the IU friendly media is shitting on IU today. This guy is an IU grad and runs a radio show in Indy.

When former greats fall, they fall hard, LMAO. This reminds me of the stat where Nebraska football is the only program in the Big Ten and literally like one of FBS 3 programs nationally to not make a bowl in the last 5 seasons.
 
Best part about the IU loss is the entire Hoosier fanbase lashing out against their all time leading scorer in womens basketball, Tyra Buss who is dating Brad Davidson. Essentially disowning her for rooting for her boyfriends team. This has some Hoosier fans foaming at the mouth.
Silly....And probably not a fan base out there that wouldn't react in the same manner....I guess.

Pretty sure though within 5 years of their marriage, he'll be arrested for domestic violence...
 
He was a 4* via Rivals/Scout. 24/7 and ESPN had him as a 5*.

I think Woody has 100% mishandled the kid, and wouldn't surprise me one bit if he enters the portal. Kid should have seen the floor much, much more....
 
While your point is not without merit, you're saying it like we haven't had multiple opportunities and last year's Tournament performance was anything other than the exception. While the Big Ten's lack of titles needs to be explained in some way and this is as good of a theory as any, the way you say it indicates we haven't had teams talented enough to win the NC. When you place nearly HALF of the conference in the National Title game since 2000, there is plenty of talent in the conference, and it's not as if these were all blowouts. We easily could have won multiple games in this timespan with a couple different bounces of the ball:

2002: Maryland over Indiana, 64-52 ... can we count this now?? ;) Not particularly close, though.
2005: North Carolina over Illinois, 75-70 ... game went down to garbage time free throws, and ILL played the final 8 minutes without its starting center to defend Shaun May.
2007: Florida over Ohio State, 84-75 ... that OSU team wins the title the year after, IMO ... just ran into a once-in-a-generation Florida squad.
2009: North Carolina over Michigan State, 89-72 ... UNC was probably more talented, but that was a damn good MSU team.
2013: Louisville over Michigan, 82-76 ... game went down to the wire.
2015: Duke over Wisconsin, 68-63 ... another game even close than the score indicates.
2018: Villanova over Michigan, 79-62 ... probably the best case of your point being true, IMO.

Again, I agree with you that the league needs more NBA talent and that this is part of the reason we haven't broken through since 2000. However, there have very clearly been multiple Big Ten teams "good enough" to theoretically win it all; it's not like last year is the norm, where tons of teams are getting bounced in the First and Second Rounds. This list doesn't even look at great Big Ten teams that didn't make the title game but were good enough to ... March Madness is a lot of luck, and that (along with your point) is part of the reason we haven't won it all in so long.
2002- agreed

2005- UNC just outplayed Illinois

2007- Never had a chance.

2009- Never had a chance.

2013- maxed out their talents, but Louisville was simply better.

2015- massive choke job @jwardelt

2018- Never had a chance.
 
2002: Maryland over Indiana, 64-52 ... can we count this now?? ;) Not particularly close, though.
Indiana actually led by 2, 46-44 with just over 8 minutes left....Dixon hit a three, MD never trailed again, and slowly pulled away...

Really liked that Indiana team.....Maryland was just better. But sure would have liked to have had a healthy Coverdale.
 
I think that every time I read this forum.
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