Knight was a world class prick. Got a huge sense of entitlement by the cult that worshipped him in Bloomington. Lost all regard for thinking that he'd be held accountable for his actions. Deserved what he got.
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Knight grabbed him which is inexcusable yet seems excusable because Reed may not have gotten the details exactly right as he was being assaulted. Your posts have been nothing but excuses. Here’s what’s underblown here. Knights players lied - Guyton in particular blatantly lied. Everyone at that practice saw what happened. Knight was and is a pos. And he was and is a pos in any era. If I was an IU fan I’d petition to remove any connection to him to the university. He is an institutional embarrasment. Same goes for that senile bastard Woody Hayes. Those guys are embarrassing and not to be celebrated.
has anyone brought up Knight shooting his shotgun towards a neighbors house?
"SPOONER, Wis. — Indiana basketball Coach Bob Knight failed to report a hunting accident and hunted without a license during an Oct. 12, 1999 expedition on which he accidentally shot a friend while hunting grouse, the state Department of Natural Resources said.
Under state law, Knight, 59, was required to report the accident to law enforcement authorities. He also didn't have a $43 nonresident small-game license.
Knight's friend Thomas Mikunda suffered shotgun pellet wounds to the back and upper shoulder. The wounds were not life-threatening. Knight will be cited for failure to report a hunting accident and will receive two citations for hunting without a license in 1999 and 1998. The fine for each citation is $165. Two other Knight companions will receive similar citations.
Knight told investigators he didn't think he needed the license to hunt on private property.
An unsigned statement by Indiana University said: "This is a matter that is outside the scope of Coach Knight's university duties. . . . The university is confident that Coach Knight will respond appropriately to resolve this matter."
Separate incident:
LUBBOCK, Texas -- Two Lubbock residents said Tuesday that
Texas Tech basketball coach Bob Knight or a hunting companion hit
them with birdshot in separate incidents last month.
Neither person was injured or required medical treatment.
Mary Ann Chumley said she was struck on the foot by a stray
pellet on Oct. 20 in an incident she characterized as an accident.
She said Knight apologized for hunting too close to her barn and
she forgave him.
Another resident near the dove field said the coach and another
hunter returned the next day and one of them intentionally fired a
shotgun in his direction.
James Simpson told Lubbock police he was struck on the neck and
back by pellets after yelling at Knight and another man he believed
were hunting too close to his house. Simpson's backyard is about
100 yards from where Chumley was struck the previous day.
Simpson and Chumley each said the shots were fired from a
distance of about 250 feet. Both said the pellets did not break the
skin.
"SPOONER, Wis. — Indiana basketball Coach Bob Knight failed to report a hunting accident and hunted without a license during an Oct. 12, 1999 expedition on which he accidentally shot a friend while hunting grouse, the state Department of Natural Resources said.
Under state law, Knight, 59, was required to report the accident to law enforcement authorities. He also didn't have a $43 nonresident small-game license.
Knight's friend Thomas Mikunda suffered shotgun pellet wounds to the back and upper shoulder. The wounds were not life-threatening. Knight will be cited for failure to report a hunting accident and will receive two citations for hunting without a license in 1999 and 1998. The fine for each citation is $165. Two other Knight companions will receive similar citations.
Knight told investigators he didn't think he needed the license to hunt on private property.
An unsigned statement by Indiana University said: "This is a matter that is outside the scope of Coach Knight's university duties. . . . The university is confident that Coach Knight will respond appropriately to resolve this matter."
Separate incident:
LUBBOCK, Texas -- Two Lubbock residents said Tuesday that
Texas Tech basketball coach Bob Knight or a hunting companion hit
them with birdshot in separate incidents last month.
Neither person was injured or required medical treatment.
Mary Ann Chumley said she was struck on the foot by a stray
pellet on Oct. 20 in an incident she characterized as an accident.
She said Knight apologized for hunting too close to her barn and
she forgave him.
Another resident near the dove field said the coach and another
hunter returned the next day and one of them intentionally fired a
shotgun in his direction.
James Simpson told Lubbock police he was struck on the neck and
back by pellets after yelling at Knight and another man he believed
were hunting too close to his house. Simpson's backyard is about
100 yards from where Chumley was struck the previous day.
Simpson and Chumley each said the shots were fired from a
distance of about 250 feet. Both said the pellets did not break the
skin.
I don't know why, but this just made me laugh lol. Evertime I think of someone confronting Knight about hunting too close to their house I immediately picture that it went something similar to one of his NCAA tournament press conference blow ups.
I remember the Lubbock incident. I think there’s actually video of him out there arguing with the landowner.
It’s odd that he would be hunting within the city limits like that articles insinuates. He could go 5 miles outside of town and literally be in the middle of nowhere without having to worry about being too close to somebody’s house.
I think it's weird that the film somehow insinuates that Knight's abusive behavior may have contributed to the early demises of both Jason Collier (age 28) and Neil Reed (age 36). Collier had an enlarged heart and Reed suffered from a heart attack. Tragic as their cases were, accidents like those sometimes happen. But let's not pretend that Knight had anything to do with it.
That being said, Knight is a POS. I really don't like the shame/intimidation tactics used by Knight or anyone else (and yes, I know, to a lesser degree Coach K does this). It's calculated to make the players not feel pain or fear - which allows them to focus on the game. I suppose there is an element of effectiveness in this coaching style, but I can't imagine the emotional toll that is had on someone's psyche. I mean, how do you have normal emotions when you're trained to shut everything else out?
Maybe Reed only transferred because Knight told him that he wouldn't play his senior year. I don't know. But the documentary clearly showed that it took time for Reed to build trust in Abbott. He was very hesitant about unloading all of his pain and traumatic experiences. He didn't do any interviews on tv until Knight publicly criticized Reed for being a bad teammate. As far Reed lying about the specifics of the choking incident, let's remember that Reed (and others) said the abusive behavior was a chronic issue. It was not a one-time isolated event. It's very possible he mashed several different episodes into one event - and we didn't see the full context of the video, either. Maybe they were separated afterwards.
I gotta believe there have been many coaches similar to Knight, though. The only difference is he was in the limelight for all the success he attained over the years. Interesting film, nonetheless. Certainly feel bad for people who feel powerless when they fear for their safety if they blow the whistle on an authority figure. Hopeful that coaches, players, and parents alike can know what is acceptable behavior for coaches - and when to call someone out when it goes too far.
That being said, Knight is a POS. I really don't like the shame/intimidation tactics used by Knight or anyone else (and yes, I know, to a lesser degree Coach K does this). It's calculated to make the players not feel pain or fear - which allows them to focus on the game. I suppose there is an element of effectiveness in this coaching style, but I can't imagine the emotional toll that is had on someone's psyche. I mean, how do you have normal emotions when you're trained to shut everything else out?
Maybe Reed only transferred because Knight told him that he wouldn't play his senior year. I don't know. But the documentary clearly showed that it took time for Reed to build trust in Abbott. He was very hesitant about unloading all of his pain and traumatic experiences. He didn't do any interviews on tv until Knight publicly criticized Reed for being a bad teammate. As far Reed lying about the specifics of the choking incident, let's remember that Reed (and others) said the abusive behavior was a chronic issue. It was not a one-time isolated event. It's very possible he mashed several different episodes into one event - and we didn't see the full context of the video, either. Maybe they were separated afterwards.
I gotta believe there have been many coaches similar to Knight, though. The only difference is he was in the limelight for all the success he attained over the years. Interesting film, nonetheless. Certainly feel bad for people who feel powerless when they fear for their safety if they blow the whistle on an authority figure. Hopeful that coaches, players, and parents alike can know what is acceptable behavior for coaches - and when to call someone out when it goes too far.
I’m not specialist, but I can’t imagine tragic events that lead to anxiety or depression are good for heart health. Just not sure we can say with certainty it had zero impact on his heart condition.
Eh, you might be right. I'm probably oversimplifying it. I didn't have Knight as a coach, so I don't know the full ramifications it might have on someone's mental health. Certainly it impacted him emotionally, but I suppose that could lead to a worsening heart condition as well.
1st. In regards to both passing away at a young age and it being Knights fault...I was just waiting for them to shoehorn some type of comment that Knight broke their hearts emotionally and because of that...their hearts stopped.
2nd. I think the only reason he didn't speak up sooner I believe was simply from fear of what Knight could do to their careers. I don't believe it was from not wanting to cause harm to IU, or Knight. I believe that he probably hated both for how he was treated, but didn't say anything because of Knights assumed power. However, eventually the hatred he had tipped the scales where it outweighed his fear.
3rd. I don't condone anyone putting their hands on another person and I believe Knight should have been fired for doing just that to Reed. But, all of the verbal and intimidation issues imo should have been overlooked. The reason why is simply because every single player who ever signed up to play for him knew exactly what to expect. They knew he was going to scream, cuss, play mindgames and try to intimidate them. So, I don't feel sorry for someone who couldn't handle that. But, once he put his hands on a player...thats when in t crossed the line.
4th. You can't ignore that the story Reed told wasn't what we saw on the video. And if I remember correctly, he actually changed up his story a few times, so he does have some believability issues to deal with. But the one thing that is never mentioned is that this type of thing happens all the time when witnesses give testimony. People forget exact details wll the time and that's why police want to interview a person as close in time to the event as possible. The more time between event and interview means a less reliable witness.
The halftime speech against Purdue is great. Why recruits wanted to go there is a mystery. Damon Bailey comes to mind. I liked Knight but the guy is a miserable SOB and he likes it that way.
