IYO Who Would You Say Is the Best Active Coach In CBB?
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He made the elite 8 with Tulsa. And took Otal Roberts to the tourney after they were a complete dumpster fire. Yes I do believe he would have turned them around.
It's not like Drew orchestrated a quick turnaround. Baylor averaged 9 wins/season his first four years and didn't have a winning record until year 5. And they were just a decent/middling program until almost two decades into his tenure.
There's literally no reason to think that Self couldn't have built Baylor into a consistently good program within 20 years.
so in other words, he has done nothing nearly as impressive at what Drew did at Baylor in terms of ressurecting (sp) a dead program.
Nate Oats isn't there yet, but before too long he will be mentioned.
Bama has been mediocre at best for the almost 2 decades before Oats was hired.
He is slowly but surely changing the culture in and around the basketball program.
Bama has been mediocre at best for the almost 2 decades before Oats was hired.
He is slowly but surely changing the culture in and around the basketball program.
By your logic nobody could have a chance unless they took over Baylor.
Baylor was still located in a recruiting hotbed. He was pulling in 4* players immediately. You close your eyes and spit down there and youāll hit a top 150 recruit.
Oral Roberts hadn't come close to a winning record in 5 years when Self was hired and he had them at 20+ wins within a few years.
Drew took over for a coach who had a winning record at Baylor and went .500 the year before. They didn't hit rock bottom until Drew was hired. He's not the first guy to have to overcome a scholarship reduction.
The hyperbole is funny, especially from people who probably barely acknowledged Drew's existence until a couple years ago.
Disagree respectfully- I believe you are underestimating the magnitude of what Drew took over - and the head coach tried covering it up !! They couldnāt even play non conference games his first season I believe. Self is still ranked ahead of Drew IMO, but Drew has the best rebuilding job ever in college bball IMO.
you are correct, nobody has a chance of claiming they rebuilt a program better than Drew. It's impossible to claim otherwise given the objective evidence. Some coaches bring programs back from the "death" but he literally brought the program back from death.
But itās not like he performed an overnight miracle. They were awful the first four years.
Drewās done a great job, but mostly in the last few years. I didnāt see anybody praising his coaching ability until they dropped the zone a few years ago in favor of the no middle D. Thatās the move that earned him respect. Until that point, his teams rarely had the look of a well-coached team, and often underachieved a little based on their talent/athleticism. Good coaches tore that zone to shreds.
Winning a title at Baylor is impressive, but I donāt think itās miraculous that he built a competitive program within two decades. Especially in a fertile recruiting area.
Nah, he deserves a lifetime contract, so maybe a couple of decades it is.
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Fair- but remember, not only the nonconference games were not allowed first season, Baylor had placed itself on probation until 2005 and withdrawn from postseason play for the 2003ā04 season .Plus, Baylor extended its self-imposed probation until 2006 and docked itself several scholarships and paid recruiting visits through 2006.
I don't think any coach would have had much success those first four years post Bliss.
Scott Drew has come full circle for me as a rival fan..
š Oversized suits on the sidelines
šBumbling games - bigly - late
Somewhere ~2010 I fell in love with Quincy Acey and then came Quincy Miller, then Rico Gathers.. and just a waterfall of fun players who've rolled through Baylor's program.
I'm not a fan of Baylor University, but I am a fan of Scott Drew.
š Oversized suits on the sidelines
šBumbling games - bigly - late
Somewhere ~2010 I fell in love with Quincy Acey and then came Quincy Miller, then Rico Gathers.. and just a waterfall of fun players who've rolled through Baylor's program.
I'm not a fan of Baylor University, but I am a fan of Scott Drew.
It's not John Calipari. This carpet bagging bum has long since worn out his welcome in Lexington.
Going through a lull ! LMAO . And the Titanic had a leak !
1. Bill Self
2. Rick Pitino
3. Scott Drew
4. Tom Izzo
5. Tony Bennett
6. Jim Boeheim
7. Mark Few
8. John Calipari
9. Bob Huggins
10. Kelvin Sampson
2. Rick Pitino
3. Scott Drew
4. Tom Izzo
5. Tony Bennett
6. Jim Boeheim
7. Mark Few
8. John Calipari
9. Bob Huggins
10. Kelvin Sampson
Gassnola testified he never talked payments to De Sousaās guardian with Self or assistant coach Kurtis Townsend. Gassnola has maintained that Kansas basketball coaches had no knowledge of his payments to players and their families.
https://www.si.com/college/2018/10/15/bill-self-kansas-ncaa-corruption-trial-tj-gassnola
Tell us more about how Zion had huge demands for Adidas but chose to play at Duke for free. š
There is no way in HELL some of those guys are the best coaches at this time in their careers . What they did when they were in their prime has nothing to do with what is happening now. Boeheim, Calipari, Huggins ! LMAO . Even Izzo is a shadow of what he was . Who knows about Pitino. Heās in purgatory.
OP literally said choose your own criteria. Mine is simply for the best coaches that are active - and I'm taking their full resume into consideration.
Well yeah , I guess if you want to look at it that wayā¦.. lol . My bad dude.
