IU and UK fans. It's time.

[kyjeff1]

Not sure what this even means?

here's what I know.....

Lot of UK fans cannot accpet losing....Or to be "pointed out"---But have no issues pointing others transgressions, but when their's are, theres always a good reason..

8 out of every 10 Uk'ers I have met, I really, really like. But BBN is the most bipolar fanbase on the planet.

Winning changes a fanbase like nothing else.

I'm not sure how a fanbase can be bipolar, that’s just weird. You would have to know each and every fan in the fanbase to prove that statement.

Let's look at Georgia football fans. They used to be cool to be around. We could go to games and it was an awesome time. Their fans were great.

Now, after 2 years of dominance, you can't walk 10 feet without soneone getting on all 4's and barking at you, or getting in your face and starting shit.

As a fanbase, their expectations are through the roof now.

Look at Bama fans right now, they're pissed at Saban and their players.

If IU went to four FF's in 5 years + an additional 2 E8's, IU fans would be just as passionate, or 'Bipolar' as UK fans are.

Let's remember, we're talking about people in a fanbase, it's not like IU fans are from a different galaxy where passion is frowned upon.

Truth is, IU has been a mediocre program since '87, most of your passionate fans from that era have moved on and the current fans are used to mediocrity, so you have to factor that in.

UK fans are just that, fans and every fanbase has their crazies, so let's not act like UK is the only school that has loud fans.

 

[kyjeff1]

So UCLA is better than Kentucky then?

Yeah, if they led UK in the other 3 categories that were in Borden's post.

Did your glasses fall off after the first line?

 

[IUBtown]

Winning changes a fanbase like nothing else.

I'm not sure how a fanbase can be bipolar, that’s just weird. You would have to know each and every fan in the fanbase to prove that statement.

Let's look at Georgia football fans. They used to be cool to be around. We could go to games and it was an awesome time. Their fans were great.

Now, after 2 years of dominance, you can't walk 10 feet without soneone getting on all 4's and barking at you, or getting in your face and starting shit.

As a fanbase, their expectations are through the roof now.

Look at Bama fans right now, they're pissed at Saban and their players.

If IU went to four FF's in 5 years + an additional 2 E8's, IU fans would be just as passionate, or 'Bipolar' as UK fans are.

Let's remember, we're talking about people in a fanbase, it's not like IU fans are from a different galaxy where passion is frowned upon.

Truth is, IU has been a mediocre program since '87, most of your passionate fans from that era have moved on and the current fans are used to mediocrity, so you have to factor that in.

UK fans are just that, fans and every fanbase has their crazies, so let's not act like UK is the only school that has loud fans.

Why do people get lazy and use 87 as the date of IU being mediocre? The seven years after they had 3 sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final 4 finish. 1995 is a much better date.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

So UCLA is better than Kentucky then?

You keep going back to this.

One angle.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Crazy seeing other fans stick up for IU.


Let's go, who here feels owned by UK?

 

[Sparty_57]

Why do people get lazy and use 87 as the date of IU being mediocre? The seven years after they had 3 sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final 4 finish. 1995 is a much better date

FIFY.

"Truth is, IU has been a mediocre program since '95."

 

[IUfanBorden]

Winning changes a fanbase like nothing else.

I'm not sure how a fanbase can be bipolar, that’s just weird. You would have to know each and every fan in the fanbase to prove that statement.

Let's look at Georgia football fans. They used to be cool to be around. We could go to games and it was an awesome time. Their fans were great.

Now, after 2 years of dominance, you can't walk 10 feet without soneone getting on all 4's and barking at you, or getting in your face and starting shit.

As a fanbase, their expectations are through the roof now.

Look at Bama fans right now, they're pissed at Saban and their players.

If IU went to four FF's in 5 years + an additional 2 E8's, IU fans would be just as passionate, or 'Bipolar' as UK fans are.

Let's remember, we're talking about people in a fanbase, it's not like IU fans are from a different galaxy where passion is frowned upon.

Truth is, IU has been a mediocre program since '87, most of your passionate fans from that era have moved on and the current fans are used to mediocrity, so you have to factor that in.

UK fans are just that, fans and every fanbase has their crazies, so let's not act like UK is the only school that has loud fans.

Who said UK was the only loud fanbase? Or the only with crazies? Or the only this, or that?

This is a prime of example of what I mean...No one is singnaling out BBN/UK fans. But that is how yall take it. I point out something, you point the finger at others. Why?

So what if IU has been mediocre since 1987...What does that have to do with RIGHT NOW? Again, saying UK has nothing to gain by playing IU is a very, very bad take.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Why do people get lazy and use 87 as the date of IU being mediocre? The seven years after they had 3 sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final 4 finish. 1995 is a much better date.

Becasue only titles count..

Its a bad take, but I dont get into that..

And BTW, it was 5 SW 16's....and two E8's

FF: 1992
E8--1992 and 1993
SW 16--1989, 91, 92, 93 and 94.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I'm surprised more ppl are not talking about IU. I think you all have a good thing going.

Headed in the right direction. Stability. Crean doesn't get the credit he deerves for the rebuilding job he did---Honestly its very impressive. Maybe one of the better in CBB history. BUT---he couldn't sustain it. Program wasn't stable.

Woodson seems to be doing just that. Getting really good talent. If he somehow lands Fland, Queen and Mcneely? Yikes.

Lot of questions with this team.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I may be wrong, but it seems you just want to talk about UK fans being fans.

No money where the mouth is.

Again...........

And no, I just responded to the ignorrant statement of UK not gaining anything by playing IU.

 

[kyjeff1]

Why do people get lazy and use 87 as the date of IU being mediocre? The seven years after they had 3 sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final 4 finish. 1995 is a much better date.

Same reason people only bring up UK's last 3 years and not 2010-2019.
Sucks, doesn't it?

 

[IUfanBorden]

It damn sure wasn't their sweet 16 game in 2012.

Of course not....

UK shot 37 FT's----IU 17.

Now imgaine a world where those stats are reversed, and #1 UK had lost to IU that night.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Same reason people only bring up UK's last 3 years and not 2010-2019.
Sucks, doesn't it?

Are you guys relly having that hard of a time understanding why I brough tthat up?

Seriously? Do I have to explain this----****ing again?

UK fan---"UK gains noting that by playing IU....thye have not been good lately...and not a quality opponent..."

Me---Ummmm, lets look at the past three seasons....And the KenPom numbers....and the Net numbers...

That is why I sued the last 3 seasons----and not 2010-2019.

JFC...

I mean would you feel better if I just used last year?

 

[kyjeff1]

Who said UK was the only loud fanbase? Or the only with crazies? Or the only this, or that?

This is a prime of example of what I mean...No one is singnaling out BBN/UK fans. But that is how yall take it. I point out something, you point the finger at others. Why?

So what if IU has been mediocre since 1987...What does that have to do with RIGHT NOW? Again, saying UK has nothing to gain by playing IU is a very, very bad take.

You’re kidding right? Dude, read this entire thread.
I get it, UK fans on these boards are easy to attack, so it is what it is, but damn man, this very thread is literally singling UK out.

 

[IUfanBorden]

You’re kidding right? Dude, read this entire thread.
I get it, UK fans on these boards are easy to attack, so it is what it is, but damn man, this very thread is literally singling UK out.

Maybe its just me, but this IS a threa about IU and UK. I mean who are people supposed to talk about...

Temple?

 

[IUfanBorden]

You’re kidding right? Dude, read this entire thread.
I get it, UK fans on these boards are easy to attack, so it is what it is, but damn man, this very thread is literally singling UK out.

And this is what I mean by bipolar....

UK fan--"There is no other fan base like BBN...":

You--"We are no different than any other fan base..."

Huh?

 

[kyjeff1]

Of course not....

UK shot 37 FT's----IU 17.

Now imgaine a world where those stats are reversed, and #1 UK had lost to IU that night.

You should know the answer to this, you're kinda in the business.

So, if you're calling a game, who will get fouled more often?

Team A: Shoots outside shots to spread the floor
or
Team B: Focuses on running offense through post and dribble drive.

IU shot 18 threes, UK shot 10 threes.

That UK team drove the ball until they scored, or got fouled. It was Cal's best driving team. 2015, 2016 and 2017 played the same way. They made you foul them.

But you knew this already.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Oh, so now you're twisting the sentence a different way.

I literally said: "I would not be surprised if IU fans reacted the same way" and here you are changing my words to: "I'm not surprised at UK fans reactions".

Dude, you're either the worst at reading comprehension I have ever seen, or you're the worst troll I have ever ran across. Your choice.

Your projections are funny. My reading comprehension is fine. It's called inferring. Just like you've done several times in this thread. Like this, for example:

where the hell did I say death threats were okay?

Where did I say that you said death threats are okay?

You claim you weren't referring to threats, but that's what we've been talking about the entire time. The threats are the issue. No one cares if someone called Higgins to breathe into the phone.

If you're going to change someones comments, you should at least try to do it in a different thread.

More projection. See?

You immediately responded with: "Did you just say death threats are okay"

Actually, I take that back. You didn't change my comment....you completely made it up. And even added quotes to make it appear like a direct quote. 😆 🤣

 

[kyjeff1]

Maybe its just me, but this IS a threa about IU and UK. I mean who are people supposed to talk about...

Temple?

You think it’s just this thread this crap happens in?

I see KU fans in here piling on along with IU fans. Have you seen any of those KU fans saying anything bad about IU?

 

[kyjeff1]

Your projections are funny. My reading comprehension is fine. It's called inferring. Just like you've done several times in this thread. Like this, for example:

where the hell did I say death threats were okay?

Where did I say that you said death threats are okay?

You claim you weren't referring to threats, but that's what we've been talking about the entire time. The threats are the issue. No one cares if someone called Higgins to breathe into the phone.



More projection. See?



Actually, I take that back. You didn't change my comment....you completely made it up. And even added quotes to make it appear like a direct quote. 😆 🤣

What comment did I make up? Please show me and I'll gladly point out… again… where and when you posted it.

 

[ExitFlagger]

What comment did I make up? Please show me and I'll gladly point out… again… where and when you posted it.

LOL. I just quoted it. I never said what you put in quotes.

 

[kyjeff1]

Becasue only titles count..

Its a bad take, but I dont get into that..

And BTW, it was 5 SW 16's....and two E8's

FF: 1992
E8--1992 and 1993
SW 16--1989, 91, 92, 93 and 94.

Who the hell remembers tems that were in the E8? Heck, Saint Peters made it to the E8 a couple years ago, who cares?
Nobody cares about UK's 2017 and 2019 E8's.

But cool, if it makes you feel better, we'll say IU has been mediocre since '95. 🙄

 

[IUfanBorden]

You should know the answer to this, you're kinda in the business.

So, if you're calling a game, who will get fouled more often?

Team A: Shoots outside shots to spread the floor
or
Team B: Focuses on running offense through post and dribble drive.

IU shot 18 threes, UK shot 10 threes.

That UK team drove the ball until they scored, or got fouled. It was Cal's best driving team. 2015, 2016 and 2017 played the same way. They made you foul them.

But you knew this already.

I knew this reply was coming before you did....

Why doesn't this argument work when UK is on the other end?

Cody Zeller took 14 shots....shot 2 FT's. AD took 5 shots.....shot 6 FT's.

Point is----When this happens to UK, it s the refs...When this happens to the other team---its style of play.

Got it.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Who the hell remembers tems that were in the E8? Heck, Saint Peters made it to the E8 a couple years ago, who cares?
Nobody cares about UK's 2017 and 2019 E8's.

But cool, if it makes you feel better, we'll say IU has been mediocre since '95. 🙄

I didn't bring it up....

Who remembers teams that were in the ELite 8? Wait, didn't I just see a post talking about how UK has more E8's than anyone?---Yeah, yeah I did.

No one care about UK's Elite 8's in 2017 or 19----Yeah, ok.

 

[kyjeff1]

LOL. I just quoted it. I never said what you put in quotes.

I even screenshot it for you. It’s not word for word identical, but it’s the same accusation.

 

[IUfanBorden]

You think it’s just this thread this crap happens in?

I see KU fans in here piling on along with IU fans. Have you seen any of those KU fans saying anything bad about IU?

Well I mean IU fans aren't the ones acting like they are too good to play UK...So maybe that has someting to do with it?

Bert made the statement----be upset with him. Otherwise, this COULD be a thread basically about the renewal of a great rivalry.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

IU's Crean got to coach in Rupp Arena.

He He.

He got his ass Creaned!

Dumb

 

[ExitFlagger]

I knew this reply was coming before you did....

Why doesn't this argument work when UK is on the other end?

Cody Zeller took 14 shots....shot 2 FT's. AD took 5 shots.....shot 6 FT's.

Point is----When this happens to UK, it s the refs...When this happens to the other team---its style of play.

Got it.

I wonder if they've ever considered that this is why they get "singled out?"

Nahhh, of course not...

 

[Courtsensetwo]

College basketball is better when these two programs play.

Much better

It is criminal that Calislimy ran away from it

 

[kyjeff1]

I knew this reply was coming before you did....

Why doesn't this argument work when UK is on the other end?

Cody Zeller took 14 shots....shot 2 FT's. AD took 5 shots.....shot 6 FT's.

Point is----When this happens to UK, it s the refs...When this happens to the other team---its style of play.

Got it.

Go to any home board after a loss, especially an NCAAT loss and you will find someone yapping on about fouls and free throws. But somehow you think it’s only UK fans.

I don't care how many shots Zellar took 14 shots, so did MKG. Teague too 12 2pt attempts and Lamb took 9 and I bet if you watch that game, you'll see UK's 2 pount shots were layup attempts in the paint and more of IU's were jump shots.

 

[ExitFlagger]

You keep going back to this.

One angle.

Just trying to see if your logic is consistent.

[Narrator: It's not, of course]

 

[kyjeff1]

I didn't bring it up....

Who remembers teams that were in the ELite 8? Wait, didn't I just see a post talking about how UK has more E8's than anyone?---Yeah, yeah I did.

No one care about UK's Elite 8's in 2017 or 19----Yeah, ok.

I don't recall saying uk has more E8's than anyone, but it’s possible someone posted that stat… it is a stat.

 

[kyjeff1]

Well I mean IU fans aren't the ones acting like they are too good to play UK...So maybe that has someting to do with it?

Bert made the statement----be upset with him. Otherwise, this COULD be a thread basically about the renewal of a great rivalry.

So 1 guy says he would rather not play IU and suddenly that means the entire fanbase said it?

 

[ExitFlagger]

Yeah, if they led UK in the other 3 categories that were in Borden's post.

Did your glasses fall off after the first line?

WTF are you talking about? I think you're confused.

 

[kyjeff1]

WTF are you talking about? I think you're confused.

Give it a minute, you'll figure it out, or you won't. Doesn't matter.

Just move forward with your UK hate boner.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Go to any home board after a loss, especially an NCAAT loss and you will find someone yapping on about fouls and free throws. But somehow you think it’s only UK fans.

I don't care how many shots Zellar took 14 shots, so did MKG. Teague too 12 2pt attempts and Lamb took 9 and I bet if you watch that game, you'll see UK's 2 pount shots were layup attempts in the paint and more of IU's were jump shots.

Again, where did I say, or imply it was only UK fans? Another example. The more you post, the more you prove my point.

Also, what other fans base called in threats to an official? None that I'm aware of. So do I think UK fans are the only ones to complain? Nope---But apparently they are the only ones to have called an official, and threatnend to kill his ass.

Of course you dont care how many shots Zeller took...Again, its a system thing now...But when its your team on the other end, its the officials.

Thankls for pointing out MKG taking 14 shots as well---His stylr was in the post, and attacjing...Same as Zellers. Yet MKG took 10 FT's---Zeller 2.

Personally, I dont care. Just using that game, and the FT differential as a talking point. If UK had only shot 17 FT's, and IU 37, and UK had lost.................

You know this.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Give it a minute, you'll figure it out, or you won't. Doesn't matter.

Just move forward with your UK hate boner.

Probably not, because it makes zero sense. KU leads Indiana in every category but titles. So...claiming that Indiana is better than KU equates to saying that title count is the only stat that matters. And if that's the case, UCLA is not only better than Kentucky, the difference between them is 3x the difference between KU and Indiana. UCLA also compares well or leads Kentucky in other major categories. So yeah, explain what your "point" was.

As for the hate boner...let me know when I rush here (for the first time in weeks) on a Friday night to laugh at Kentucky over a rape accusation. 😆

 

[IUfanBorden]

So 1 guy says he would rather not play IU and suddenly that means the entire fanbase said it?

Where did I say the entire fan base? I respnded to BERT---You decided to chime in. Thats on you---not me.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I don't recall saying uk has more E8's than anyone, but it’s possible someone posted that stat… it is a stat.

Wasnt you...

Why post a meaninglessw stat? Or, do you feel comfortable speaking for an entire fan base?

Careful, here.

 

[IUBtown]