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I'm not a pro COVID vaxxer for children, but it does make sense that if a kid has a compromised immune system/sick from something else they are more likely to get vaxxed multiple times. So they are more likely to die anyway.

However just from personal experience everyone I know with recent heart problems have all been told by Drs it's because of COVID and they both had multiple vaxs and COVID multiple times.
 
I'm not a pro COVID vaxxer for children, but it does make sense that if a kid has a compromised immune system/sick from something else they are more likely to get vaxxed multiple times. So they are more likely to die anyway.

However just from personal experience everyone I know with recent heart problems have all been told by Drs it's because of COVID and they both had multiple vaxs and COVID multiple times.

Yes, the nuances and qualifiers and stuff like that are ignored by the anti-vax crowd (other variables are probably ignored by the pro-vax crowd as well) which is probably the entire issue with any sort of argument for or against it. From my personal experience, looking at me versus others I have known who have had Covid, everyone should get it just comparing my symptoms to people who didn't get it. Other people would probably have the exact opposite personal experience though. The idea that the vax alone kills people is pretty stupid, but I think most anyone with any sort of ability to think rationally understands that. Same thing with thinking Covid is out there killing healthy young people.
 
I'm not a pro COVID vaxxer for children, but it does make sense that if a kid has a compromised immune system/sick from something else they are more likely to get vaxxed multiple times. So they are more likely to die anyway.

However just from personal experience everyone I know with recent heart problems have all been told by Drs it's because of COVID and they both had multiple vaxs and COVID multiple times.

Child/teen deaths were much higher than the norm after the vaccine rollout.

Some of these numbers are actually worse than they seem. Take this for example:

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The unvaccinated mortality rate includes kids aged 10 and 11 who weren't eligible for vaccination at the time. The vaccinated mortality rates don't include 10 and 11 year olds.

If the Covid shots weren't contributing to deaths, then we'd expect to see a mortality rate that's lower among the vaccinated population than that of the unvaccinated, and definitely not a mortality rate 52 times higher.
 
I am 77 years old. I lived through the polio era et.al. I have faith in vaccines.

I take the vaccines that my doctor tells me to take, but the Covid shit was the fvcking government trying to force everyone to take it. Close schools, wear worthless masks, etc. It had little to do with the health care agencies. Then they (U.S. government agencies) had the CDC lying about all the facts surrounding the disease.

Don't get me wrong I took the vaccines because my doctor advised me to do it, not because of the damned government or CNN.

On top of that we had Dr. Fauci lying in a Senate hearing and then re-lying on various MSNBC and CNN telecasts making the Covid shot political. The bastard (Fauci) should be locked up. He told Dr. Rand Paul lie after lie while he, Fouci, was under oath in the Senate hearing. Nothing will ever come of it because he is on the correct side of the political aisle.

Health and politics should never be tied together but for three years they have been walking down the aisle arm in arm. Screw the peoples health it is political subjugation. Now we find out today that maybe 30 percent of the Covid deaths were from some other source.

My biggest problems with living through this era is I have too many hours in biology and chemistry. It is hard to understand the purpose of some of these political bastards.
 
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I am 77 years old. I lived through the polio era et.al. I have faith in vaccines.

I take the vaccines that my doctor tells me to take, but the Covid shit was the fvcking government trying to force everyone to take it. Close schools, wear worthless masks, etc. It had little to do with the health care agencies. Then they (U.S. government agencies) had the CDC lying about all the facts surrounding the disease.

Don't get me wrong I took the vaccines because my doctor advised me to do it, not because of the damned government or CNN.

On top of that we had Dr. Fauci lying in a Senate hearing and then re-lying on various MSNBC and CNN telecasts making the Covid shot political. The bastard (Fauci) should be locked up. He told Dr. Rand Paul lie after lie while he, Fouci, was under oath in the Senate hearing. Nothing will ever come of it because he is on the correct side of the political aisle.

Health and politics should never be tied together but for three years they have been walking down the aisle arm in arm. Screw the peoples health it is political subjugation. Now we find out today that maybe 30 percent of the Covid deaths were from some other source.

My biggest problems with living through this era is I have too many hours in biology and chemistry. It is hard to understand the purpose of some of these political bastards.
Just keep drinking that fine Kentucky bourbon, Bert! It makes you immune to everything! :cool:
 
Remember when it was leaked CNN was going to start on climate change after Trump and Covid. It's all a script.

And to add....They tell ya----Oceans are getting warmer----And stop. What they don't tell ya is..........

Those temps have only risen 0.33 degree's, since 1968. So look out----By the year 2040, Ocean temps will be a whole degree hotter. Which I know some nerd ass is gonna tell me---"Bordo, that a significant increase..." ANd I will say....

Turn your oven up from 300 to 301, and tell me how much quicker your ****ing sailsbury steak cooks, you fukin nerd.
 
Question for those who support transgender shit....

Why is it we never see a woman indentifying as a man, wanting to play, oh I dunno...

In the fukin NFL? Or the NBA.....Or NHL.....Or MLB?

Weird....Seems only men identifying as women are doing this. A 6'4" 245 person, with a DICK, destroying women in the pool, because, why----He thinks hes a chic?

Sure.

Weird that the HUGE majority of transgenders start off with dicks. Is gender biased? Racist? Only wants to change WHITE males into female olympic swimmers?

I thnk this needs investigated.
 
Question for those who support transgender shit....

Why is it we never see a woman indentifying as a man, wanting to play, oh I dunno...

In the fukin NFL? Or the NBA.....Or NHL.....Or MLB?

Weird....Seems only men identifying as women are doing this. A 6'4" 245 person, with a DICK, destroying women in the pool, because, why----He thinks hes a chic?

Sure.

Weird that the HUGE majority of transgenders start off with dicks. Is gender biased? Racist? Only wants to change WHITE males into female olympic swimmers?

I thnk this needs investigated.
They are sick people who have a mental illness. Instead of getting them help, a segment of society believes that they should be encouraged and celebrated while anyone who speaks out against the trans movement is damned to hell. There is no such thing as trans children, yet we are supposed to act like there is. The whole movement is disgusting before you even dive into the sports aspect of it.
 
Climate change is real.....After all its only been happening for like 2 billion ****ing years.

idiots.
So you agree its a thing? No shit its been happening for 2 billion years but the planet has been warming much faster since the Industrial Revolution. Humanity's increased usage of fossil fuels is to blame but I'm not sure doing something drastic is going to completely reverse the increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

We should slowly make the transition to EVs but this idea that we're going to get rid of fossil fuels completely or make the full transition to electric vehicles overnight is a leftist fantasy and defies common sense.

Dumping the global climate deal is one of the best things Trump did. Even if the US were to follow all the emission protocols, Asian countries won't making the whole endeavor useless.
 
Yes, the nuances and qualifiers and stuff like that are ignored by the anti-vax crowd (other variables are probably ignored by the pro-vax crowd as well) which is probably the entire issue with any sort of argument for or against it. From my personal experience, looking at me versus others I have known who have had Covid, everyone should get it just comparing my symptoms to people who didn't get it. Other people would probably have the exact opposite personal experience though. The idea that the vax alone kills people is pretty stupid, but I think most anyone with any sort of ability to think rationally understands that. Same thing with thinking Covid is out there killing healthy young people.
Exactly, the fear and hysteria was overblown but the public health response was terrible which eroded public trust in our healthcare system.

1. We sent senior citizens back into nursing homes instead of using the massive convention centers we had on hand which could've allowed us to quarantine the sick elderly.

2. We were told masks nearly completely eliminate transmission of the virus when in reality they're minimally helpful unless they are N-95 masks.

3. We were told the vaccine would prevent infection when in reality it just dramatically reduces the number of severe hospitalizations if you're in the immunocompromised group, are extremely obese or old.

4. We shut down bars, restaurants, places of religious worship, etc. for far too long in some major cities.

Now we have idiots who are all over the place in social media who believe the vaccine is actually the thing that's killing people instead of lingering effects from COVID or simply another ailment. We understand why though and its unfortunate since its absolutely hopeless to change these people's minds now.
 
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So you agree its a thing? No shit its been happening for 2 billion years but the planet has been warming much faster since the Industrial Revolution. Humanity's increased usage of fossil fuels is to blame but I'm not sure doing something drastic is going to completely reverse the increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

We should slowly make the transition to EVs but this idea that we're going to get rid of fossil fuels completely or make the full transition to electric vehicles overnight is a leftist fantasy and defies common sense.

Dumping the global climate deal is one of the best things Trump did. Even if the US were to follow all the emission protocols, Asian countries won't making the whole endeavor useless.
Of course it has....Are you telling me this is a surprise? Look the ocean has rose a whopping, what, 0.33 degree's since 1968? Yeah, lets shut down fossil fuels, ASAP--ruin the economy, shove electric cars up peoples asses-I mean because at this rate, water tamp will have increased a half degree by the year 2070.

Being surprised the planet has been warming much faster since the industrial revolution is like going outside in the rain, and being surprised you got wet.

Nothing more than a "scare tactic", to push electric cars, solar panels, to get rid of oils, gas, etc....Nothing more than a political BS propogamda..
 
I wish electric vehicles weren't so damned political. They would be a practical solution for millions of people who won't get one because it's a symbol of how you vote. Sell them, let the market decide. Once they are reliable, affordable and we have the infrastructure to support charging stations and the power grid, then weed out gasoline at a reasonable pace.
 
Some people think they are useless and some think they are all anyone needs. Both are wrong.

My favorite people are the ones who go in debt $500+ a month so they can save $50 a month not buying gas...

My next will probably be a hybrid of some sort. Unless Toyotas miracle battery breakthrough is true and they have a 745 mile range car/SUV.
 
The green folks usually are the ones who have a political science degree instead of studies in the physical sciences.

Al Gore told us Manhattan would be under water by 2005 and the polar ice caps would be gone by now. Yet he has never been questioned about the incorrect information he shits out constantly. John Kerry is even worse. Both just spout out lies and quote the Green Bible.

Also Carbon Dioxide is not pollution. Plants need CO2 to make sugars. If you want less CO2 grow plants. We need to use our natural gas and oil to the extent that we need to. The U.S. is the cleanest and greenest of the industrial nations. We do not need to ruin our economy over some fake green religion.
 
Yeah. My biggest beef with the climate freaks is no matter how many deadlines pass without the doomsday scenario we were promised, they ignore it and move on the the next doomsday predictions. South Miami was supposed to be under water by 2010. Then 2020. Now 2030. Once 2030 comes it will be 2040.


We won't even talk about carbon footprints and how the activists entertainers and the lying ass politicians who scream about climate change the most, have the biggest carbon footprint of anyone.
 
Yeah. My biggest beef with the climate freaks is no matter how many deadlines pass without the doomsday scenario we were promised, they ignore it and move on the the next doomsday predictions. South Miami was supposed to be under water by 2010. Then 2020. Now 2030. Once 2030 comes it will be 2040.


We won't even talk about carbon footprints and how the activists entertainers and the lying ass politicians who scream about climate change the most, have the biggest carbon footprint of anyone.
You nailed it GhostOf301.
 
Yeah. My biggest beef with the climate freaks is no matter how many deadlines pass without the doomsday scenario we were promised, they ignore it and move on the the next doomsday predictions. South Miami was supposed to be under water by 2010. Then 2020. Now 2030. Once 2030 comes it will be 2040.


We won't even talk about carbon footprints and how the activists entertainers and the lying ass politicians who scream about climate change the most, have the biggest carbon footprint of anyone.
I've never heard the greenies mention anything about the massive need for electricity associated with EV, or the resources needed to build wind farms and solar fields (not to mention the resources they destroy). Also, do they realize that there are MASSIVE lithium, nickel, manganese, and cobalt batteries in each EV? Those are also non-renewable resources...lol. Mining of those resources also requires excessive energy consumption and contributes a great deal to air and water pollution and land degradation. But hey, at least we won't be burnin' gas!
 
I've never heard the greenies mention anything about the massive need for electricity associated with EV, or the resources needed to build wind farms and solar fields (not to mention the resources they destroy). Also, do they realize that there are MASSIVE lithium, nickel, manganese, and cobalt batteries in each EV? Those are also non-renewable resources...lol. Mining of those resources also requires excessive energy consumption and contributes a great deal to air and water pollution and land degradation. But hey, at least we won't be burnin' gas!
Not to mention the pvc and plastics that are in the wind and solar systems. That uses, well.. oil.
 
The greenies are going to destroy our economy and the planet. They need to go to school and study science.

Now let us talk about how hard it is to put out a fire in a lithium battery.

Just a quote for CNN: “In all of these fires, these lithium-ion fires, it is not a slow burn; there’s not a small amount of fire, it literally explodes,” FDNY Commissioner Laura Kavanagh told reporters. “It’s a tremendous volume of fire as soon as it happens, and it’s very difficult to extinguish and so it’s particularly dangerous.”

But don't worry folks just park your electric car in the garage below your bedroom, plug it up and sleep well at night knowing full well that you are protecting the environment.
 
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So you agree its a thing? No shit its been happening for 2 billion years but the planet has been warming much faster since the Industrial Revolution. Humanity's increased usage of fossil fuels is to blame but I'm not sure doing something drastic is going to completely reverse the increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

We should slowly make the transition to EVs but this idea that we're going to get rid of fossil fuels completely or make the full transition to electric vehicles overnight is a leftist fantasy and defies common sense.

Dumping the global climate deal is one of the best things Trump did. Even if the US were to follow all the emission protocols, Asian countries won't making the whole endeavor useless.
What did Al Gore say? What do the climate idiots say? None of what they say has come even close to happening, yet people continue to spout bull shit.

If what the climate nuts say is true. Biden, Obama and all the others, you would never be able to get a loan or buy property near the ocean. What did Obama buy in Nantucket? Right on the water.

People just need a cause to get behind, especially the liberal idiots.

You people listened and trumpeted a 13 year old with absolutely no qualifications. Brought t her to the US and put her on tv like she knew something.

Fvcking idiots.
 
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