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Inventing a storyline? Did you look at the graph that hopgood posted? Btw, that article mentions a poll in which 61% of French said they'd refuse the vaccine. And as the graph shows, no one was getting it until they were essentially forced to.

Who is Robert Kennedy Jr? Aside from being Bobby Kennedy's son and JFK's nephew, he's an environmental lawyer who's been obsessed with vaccine safety for many years. Of course, he's been labeled a misinformation spreader and barred from social media platforms. That's what speaking truth gets you these days.
So, he is an environmental lawyer. I can certainly see why you would look there for answers on medicine. 🙃
 
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So, he is an environmental lawyer. I can certainly see why you would look there for answers on medicine. 🙃
Kennedy junior I can guarantee you is a vax expert. Are you saying an intelligent person cannot become an expert in an alternative area of study.

Btw, you seem to be giving quite a few medical opinions in this thread. Are you a medical professional?
 
Do you believe that if you get one viral particle inside you that you will get sick? Exposure is not exposure.

3 million is a lot of people. However, the vaccine eliminates the drunk drivers and allows you to keep driving.

Rah rah speech? Did you not ask me and then me answer it? Don't ask me to "save it" when you asked for it.

You asked me to give you reasons to get vaccinated and I did. If you don't want the answers from me don't ask and especially don't ask twice.
Lets be honest here Della---you didn't exactly asnwer my question....Here is what you said:

Finally, it is not just about you. You live in society and are exposed to others. You probably don't want to spread a disease to others.

Thats more of a "scolding:,than an answer...Or thats how I took it.

Again, the CDC says its very rare to contract COVID twice. Their words---not mine. Its also rare to contract COVID,once being vaccinated. So where lies the difference? I've had COVID.....so according to the CDC, its very unlikely I contract COVID again. So what does getting vaccinated accomplish? What, so I can be "part of the club"? I'm just as protected from COVID, as someone who's been vaccinated.
 
Kennedy junior I can guarantee you is a vax expert. Are you saying an intelligent person cannot become an expert in an alternative area of study.

Btw, you seem to be giving quite a few medical opinions in this thread. Are you a medical professional?
You like to reduce to the ridiculous. I'm saying that the US medical complex (millions of Doctors and Scientist) support the vaccine. However, you think an environmental lawyer knows more than they do in their specific fields of study. Think about that for a minute.
 
You like to reduce to the ridiculous. I'm saying that the US medical complex (millions of Doctors and Scientist) support the vaccine. However, you think an environmental lawyer knows more than they do in their specific fields of study. Think about that for a minute.
Millions huh? Can you provide the link to the US medical complex please. And their members. And yes, I think someone who has spent decades on this subject can be just as smart as another person who has spent decades on the subject.
 
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Lets be honest here Della---you didn't exactly asnwer my question....Here is what you said:

Finally, it is not just about you. You live in society and are exposed to others. You probably don't want to spread a disease to others.

Thats more of a "scolding:,than an answer...Or thats how I took it.

Again, the CDC says its very rare to contract COVID twice. Their words---not mine. Its also rare to contract COVID,once being vaccinated. So where lies the difference? I've had COVID.....so according to the CDC, its very unlikely I contract COVID again. So what does getting vaccinated accomplish? What, so I can be "part of the club"? I'm just as protected from COVID, as someone who's been vaccinated.
I didn't mean it as a scold. I thought it was a nicer way of saying it is your civic duty to think of others. I think translations take different meanings in forums. There is no voice inflexion.

We already know the virus will mutate. That is what viruses do. I believe we are in for countless variations from now on. (kinda like flu) The CDC also said, the immunity from previous bouts of Covid will not protect one indefinitely.

Frankly, I think the vaccine is the way to go. However, if someone chooses not to get it I won't lose any sleep over it.
 
No. I just dont like discrepancies and inconsistencies in what I am being told. Fauci and others change their tune about as much as they shower. I also like facts and other proof points before I do something. I have done my own analysis here and feel the vaccine is unnecessary. Will I change my mind. Possibly, due to work or personal issues that I just feel it would be easier on my family if we were vaccinated. It will never be because I am scared of getting the virus or social pressure. That just makes me want to never get it.
Im in the same boat, just plan to do some traveling so i finally caved.

But i do feel like its sort of a civic duty if it keeps the covid from further mutating, bc while im not at risk per say myself imo, i dont want the world to shut down again and i dont want my small stock portfolio to tank again, so im signed up and waiting for the shot. Also family pressure and traveling played more of a part but i can kind of feel like i did my prt once i get vaccinated.

But i totally respect your opinions and i was on ur side until very recently.
 
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I didn't mean it as a scold. I thought it was a nicer way of saying it is your civic duty to think of others. I think translations take different meanings in forums. There is no voice inflexion.

We already know the virus will mutate. That is what viruses do. I believe we are in for countless variations from now on. (kinda like flu) The CDC also said, the immunity from previous bouts of Covid will not protect one indefinitely.

Frankly, I think the vaccine is the way to go. However, if someone chooses not to get it I won't lose any sleep over it.
The vaccine that doesn’t guarantee you protection from the virus?
 
Millions huh? Can you provide the link to the US medical complex please. And their members. And yes, I think someone who has spent decades on this subject can be just as smart as another person who has spent decades on the subject.
I don't need to. You already know that all hospitals, CDC, medical clinics, and medical research centers support it. That just leaves out those pesky Environmental Lawyers. 😊
 
The vaccine that doesn’t guarantee you protection from the virus?
No but 88%-96% less likely to contract covid (depending on the brand of vaccine) is pretty hard to argue against, compared to unvaccinated.

I have already had it as well, so i feel like with the vaccine i should be SUPER immune lol.
 
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I don't need to. You already know that all hospitals, CDC, medical clinics, and medical research centers support it. That just leaves out those pesky Environmental Lawyers. 😊
Right, but they also have a vested interest in supporting it. I was talkong to my nuerologist about it and asked him a few loaded questions about different stuff i had researched and he got 1/3 right. Which i get it hea a neurologist, but dang jist say u dont know or not quite sure, dont just spout off non-truths.
 
Right, but they also have a vested interest in supporting it. I was talkong to my nuerologist about it and asked him a few loaded questions about different stuff i had researched and he got 1/3 right. Which i get it hea a neurologist, but dang jist say u dont know or not quite sure, dont just spout off non-truths.
or ask an Environmental lawyer, amirite?
 
You like to reduce to the ridiculous. I'm saying that the US medical complex (millions of Doctors and Scientist) support the vaccine. However, you think an environmental lawyer knows more than they do in their specific fields of study. Think about that for a minute.
I knew I was throwing you a meatball down the middle by mentioning Kennedy, given the nature of these arguments. But the fact is that few people in any field are as obsessed with vaccine safety as he is. He's practically devoted his life to researching it and spreading the word. And he's obviously consulted with plenty of medical professionals and scientists while forming his opinions.

So let's just leave it at this. Given his connections as a prominent lawyer and member of the Kennedy family, and endless hours of research, do you think he knows more or less about these vaccines than you?

I don't think the average conformist who throws a bitch fit over this thing even understands the vast differences between this and traditional vaccines. In fact, many don't even prefer to call it a vaccine.

Getting sucked into pissing matches about expert opinions is generally useless. Neither of us knows what the majority of supposed experts thinks. Just because a horribly slanted "fact check" funded by people with an agenda claims that "most experts" believe yada yada doesn't make it a fact.

Even if there was a site that somehow compiled the opinions of every living scientist and medical professional, frankly, it still wouldn't mean a damn thing. Because, again....no one really has a clue about potential longterm damage of an experimental jab that was rushed out for emergency use.
 
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I just assumed he was Texas white trash but he's just some kid from Kansas with social anxiety issues.
Well, that's why you need to give up your dream of being the Sigmund Freud of Indiana and get back to mopping floors.
 
No but 88%-96% less likely to contract covid (depending on the brand of vaccine) is pretty hard to argue against, compared to unvaccinated.

I have already had it as well, so i feel like with the vaccine i should be SUPER immune lol.
I havent gotten the virus. No mask, no vaccine. But you keep following the leader and listening to those that have no clue what they are doing.
 
I don't need to. You already know that all hospitals, CDC, medical clinics, and medical research centers support it. That just leaves out those pesky Environmental Lawyers. 😊
The dude is an expert. You act like all these folks in. your sentence have all the answers. Pretty obvious they have no clue and are just throwing shit up against the wall with their solutions.

Kennedy is an expert on vaccines. Yes, I would trust him over the folks you mentioned. Especially the CDC and research centers.
 
I havent gotten the virus. No mask, no vaccine. But you keep following the leader and listening to those that have no clue what they are doing.

I understand.

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I havent gotten the virus. No mask, no vaccine. But you keep following the leader and listening to those that have no clue what they are doing.
Nah i like to go off of the advice of random people on internet message boards who post nothing but garbage 90% of the time anyways 👍
 
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Is he? Looking him up shows he's been banned before on social media for blatant misinformation regarding vaccines and likes ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Getting banned on social media platforms usually means you're posting too much truth.
 
He is not, but he is an expert on vaccines. Are you saying that only an MD has the answers on this? You do know what medicine is all about right?
I’d rather take medical advice from a professional who spent a quarter of their life learning and practicing in healthcare.
 
Is he? Looking him up shows he's been banned before on social media for blatant misinformation regarding vaccines and likes ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Yes, he is. And being banned on social media just means those social media companies dont agree or like what he is saying. Yes, he is an expert.
 
I’d rather take medical advice from a professional who spent a quarter of their life learning and practicing in healthcare.
Even if they have no expertise in vaccines. And Kennedy has spent just as long learning and educating folks about vaccines. Doesnt make him wrong just because he is not an MD. Hell, there are plenty of MD's that know nothing about vaccines because they never studied them or practice medicine with vaccines. So you would rather go to one of those than a person who has spent their adult life in the middle of it?
 
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It is a bit entertaining to watch folks sell their stance.

It's usually the last one to post is the one who oversold and didn't get any buyers.
 
Well, cross Fauci off the list...
I saw a twitter poll last night where he was voted 12th out 64 professionals on "most trusted". He made the sweet sixteen and twitter is official.

If I read it online, from twiter, or MSM, it must be true.


that's why I get my news from here and the Can we talk about thread.
 
Yes, he is. And being banned on social media just means those social media companies dont agree or like what he is saying. Yes, he is an expert.
Come on, man. You know it's way more likely that a well-educated and prominent member of the Kennedy family is just a tin foil hat-wearing moron who spreads blatant lies that can be easily debunked with a quick Google search.
 
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