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Got an interesting company email - Vaccine is mandatory for employees to enter offices effective mid August. I work for a rather large company with offices scattered across the country.

I'm unsure if they will allow the unvaccinated the choice of working from home or not. I'm currently at home.

My point is not to share my life story. I just wonder if other similar companies are going to adopt a similar strategy. Not saying I agree or disagree with it.

I just think the impact of all this is fluid.
That was my point earlier. They are going to make it impossible for people to live a semi normal life without getting the vaccine. People like myself who are completely against it will just say **** it and get the damn shot. Sad, this is what our country has become. Bunch of pansies catering to the woke liberal POS govt types.
 
Enlighten me as to why you think you know better than the US medical complex about disease and disease control?
Everyone knows more than Fauci. He is a blithering idiot who has changed his mind multiple times in the last 18 months.
 
Everyone knows more than Fauci. He is a blithering idiot who has changed his mind multiple times in the last 18 months.
I have no problem with people changing their minds. Trump said the virus was no big deal, but he changed his mind and I'm glad he did. Fauci is no smarter than the scientist that feed him info. I am neither for him or against him. I don't care about personalities or politics.
 
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That was my point earlier. They are going to make it impossible for people to live a semi normal life without getting the vaccine. People like myself who are completely against it will just say **** it and get the damn shot. Sad, this is what our country has become. Bunch of pansies catering to the woke liberal POS govt types.
They don't want lawsuits for liability from surviving family members.

Workers have taken back a little bit of power since the pandemic. Not a ton, but some, in certain fields anyway. Will be interesting to see how many walk.

While it may be true you would fold like a cheap suit, not sure everybody else will when presented the same choice. You surprised me with this one, had no idea you were such a pushover. Thought you stood for something, even if it's lunacy.

Good talk.
 
They don't want lawsuits for liability from surviving family members.

Workers have taken back a little bit of power since the pandemic. Not a ton, but some, in certain fields anyway. Will be interesting to see how many walk.

While it may be true you would fold like a cheap suit, not sure everybody else will when presented the same choice. You surprised me with this one, had no idea you were such a pushover. Thought you stood for something, even if it's lunacy.

Good talk.
If you think I am folding like a cheap suit, your reading comprehension skills suck.
 
Everyone knows more than Fauci. He is a blithering idiot who has changed his mind multiple times in the last 18 months.

Yes, that is called science. Things change when you research it more. Especially with a new virus.
 
Enlighten me as to why you think you know better than the US medical complex about disease and disease control?
Again, no one knows the first thing about the long-term consequences. And there are obviously serious short-term risks. These are things you can't deny, no matter how much you try or which "expert" you defer to.

I guarantee you can't find a greater expert on vaccines than Robert Kennedy Jr, and he's been sounding the alarms for a year.

So do you think the majority of Europeans are tinfoil hat wearers? Like many others, you're just parroting whatever your favorite mainstream US media source tells you and you think it makes you an expert.
 
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LOL. Here we go...

Bobby Kennedy Jr is probably the most intense "anti-vaxxer" in the world and I guarantee that he's a zillion times more qualified to discuss it than you are.

But again...comparing this to previous vaccines is ridiculous for several reasons. We're all guinea pigs in a big experiment. Makes zero sense to not even question the safety of the product, even as deaths are piling up and thousands upon thousands of others have had major side effects.

The most sophisticated nations in the world (most throughout Europe) are the most skeptical of this vaccine. But Joe American always knows better.
Dr. Joe American. But hey sports fan message board poster you know better than the majority of the medical field.
 
Again, no one knows the first thing about the long-term consequences. And there are obviously serious short-term risks. These are things you can't deny, no matter how much you try or which "expert" you defer to.

I guarantee you can't find a greater expert on this or other vaccines than Robert Kennedy Jr, and he's been sounding the alarms for a year.

So do you think the majority of Europeans are tinfoil hat wearers? Like many others, you're just parroting whatever your favorite mainstream US media source tells you and you think it makes you an expert.
You're one of those everything is greater in Europe and US media is evil fvcks aren't ya?
 
Dr. Joe American. But hey sports fan message board poster you know better than the majority of the medical field.

Remember when the CDC held an emergency meeting due to cases of heart inflammation in 16-24 year olds? All part of the plan, right?
 
Where has it been proven that it has killed that many people? A quick Google search tells me That it's false.
I'm not sure you read what I posted or what you linked. Because there's nothing there that contradicts what I said. I already acknowledged (a few times) that some of those deaths may not have been caused by the vaccine.

Btw, keep in mind that the same logic applies to Covid death totals.
 
Again, no one knows the first thing about the long-term consequences. And there are obviously serious short-term risks. These are things you can't deny, no matter how much you try or which "expert" you defer to.

I guarantee you can't find a greater expert on vaccines than Robert Kennedy Jr, and he's been sounding the alarms for a year.

So do you think the majority of Europeans are tinfoil hat wearers? Like many others, you're just parroting whatever your favorite mainstream US media source tells you and you think it makes you an expert.
What kind of Doctor or scientist is Robert Kennedy Jr?
Europe has a higher vaccine compliance rate than the US, so you want a do over?
 
What kind of Doctor or scientist is Robert Kennedy Jr?
Europe has a higher vaccine compliance rate than the US, so you want a do over?
That's because it's increasingly required to enter restaurants and other public places.

Polls showed far more skepticism than here. Almost half of the France residents polled said they would not take the vaccine, compared to 25% of Americans. More than 40% in Poland and Hungary, etc.
 
That's because it's increasingly required to enter restaurants and other public places.

Polls showed far more skepticism than here. Almost half of the France residents polled said they would not take the vaccine, compared to 25% of Americans. More than 40% in Poland and Hungary, etc.
What kind of Doctor or scientist is Robert Kennedy Jr?

France is above the world average in vaccination %.
 
France is up to 58% getting at least one shot.

Interesting info here, the graph is absolutely hilarious you gotta click the link just to see it LOL!



"The government’s decision to allow only the fully vaccinated to enter restaurants, bars, trains and other spaces has caused a spike in inoculations"

 
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Yes, that is called science. Things change when you research it more. Especially with a new virus.
Interesting that folks held the previous President and his admin to a completely different standard.
 
What kind of Doctor or scientist is Robert Kennedy Jr?

France is above the world average in vaccination %.
You mean people who were reluctant are now caving so that they can participate in society? You don't say?

Just as you don't have to be Henry Ford to have knowledge about cars, you can have knowledge about vaccine history and technology without practicing medicine.

Btw, Kennedy has as much experience as a practicing doctor as dirtbag Fauci. That and he's not a proven liar.
 
I am not an anti-vaxer. But like I said before, I would not have gotten this vaccine so soon if it weren't for our vacation. It was worth my gamble. But I totally understand it not being worth everybody's gamble. Let's be real, it's a gamble one way or the other.
 
I am not an anti-vaxer. But like I said before, I would not have gotten this vaccine so soon if it weren't for our vacation. It was worth my gamble. But I totally understand it not being worth everybody's gamble. Let's be real, it's a gamble one way or the other.
You know what isn't a gamble? HCQ and Zinc. There was a recent study that showed a 200% increased survival rate even in severely ill coronavirus patients.

It's too bad that criminals like Fauci suppressed a great treatment.
 
So you have to be doctor or scientist to be an expert on something?
Just advanced medical research stuff.

You would probably be surprised to know engineers generally know more about engineering than average folk and Vets know more about animal anatomy and physiology than average folks. The gap even widens when your discussing specialized disciplines.

Surely you already know this?
 
You mean people who were reluctant are now caving so that they can participate in society? You don't say?

Just as you don't have to be Henry Ford to have knowledge about cars, you can have knowledge about vaccine history and technology without practicing medicine.

Btw, Kennedy has as much experience as a practicing doctor as dirtbag Fauci. That and he's not a proven liar.
I'm just supplying you the facts. You are the one inventing a story line.

Who is this Kennedy guy? I get you don't like Fauci, but so what.
 
I'm just supplying you the facts. You are the one inventing a story line.

Who is this Kennedy guy? I get you don't like Fauci, but so what.

Inventing a storyline? Did you look at the graph that hopgood posted? Btw, that article mentions a poll in which 61% of French said they'd refuse the vaccine. And as the graph shows, no one was getting it until they were essentially forced to.

Who is Robert Kennedy Jr? Aside from being Bobby Kennedy's son and JFK's nephew, he's an environmental lawyer who's been obsessed with vaccine safety for many years. Of course, he's been labeled a misinformation spreader and barred from social media platforms. That's what speaking truth gets you these days.
 
People should do what they want.

Long Haulers

Of the COVID patients taking up hospital beds and $ that could be used for other patients that need hospitalization treatment are over 97% unvaccinated (i.e.-Using Resources that could go to other people that are hospitalized by unpreventable situations)

Additional strains mutate that could cause a more lethal death rate and the virus just doesn't go away
Percentage of those needing hospitalization, with COVID----less than 10. More than 8 in 10 cases are mild, and require no hospitalization...I'd be willing to bet of that 97%(unvaccinated) are of the same age group, and/or those with underlying health issues.

Not to mention, people driving drunk, people OD'ing, people doing dumb shit, also take up hospital beds that could be used for others as well.

Lets not act as if COVID is inventing the wheel here...

For me, the choice is simple. but also through the advice of my doctor--I have an immune system issue. I'm not going to take a vaccination for a virus that has a 99% survival rate---not to mention thats less than 10% of those infected, need hospital care---More than 8 in 10 cases are mild. So why do it? Whats the benefit?
 
You have already shown a susceptibility to the virus in the fact that you contracted Covid. Who knows what your "viral load" capacity is. Maybe, you barely met that capacity when you got sick and if you had a more severe exposure the effects might have been worse. So, neither of us know and it comes down to seeking the best solution available to you. You have the opportunity to get a tested vaccine that has been proven to have less adverse effects than the disease. Colds are similar to Covid in many respects. Just because you have had a Cold doesn't mean you won't get another with worse symptoms.

There are 332,000,000 people living in the US. That means over 3 million people will die from Covid. That's a lot of people. Do you want a 1 percenter etched on your tombstone if you're one of the unlucky few?

Finally, it is not just about you. You live in society and are exposed to others. You probably don't want to spread a disease to others.
"A more severe exposure"? Huh? I mean what---I was somehow lucky, and only got a low dose of COVID? Exposure is exposure....Its all the same.

3 Million is a lot of people....And if were to pass from it---I mean, thats how it goes. I mean I could also get killed tomorrow by a drunk driver---Should I quit driving?

I know its not about JUST me...So save the "rah-rah" speech for someone else. Thats why I asked---Is it important to you because of YOU---or b/c of others? More than 50% of the country is fully vaccinated. Of those not vaccinated, I'd say many have had COVID---And according to the same CDC that pushes the vaccine---the same administration that is also pushing this vaccination, is also the same ones saying its very rare to contract COVID twice.. So if its rare to be infected twice----why again shiould I get vaccinated?
 
"A more severe exposure"? Huh? I mean what---I was somehow lucky, and only got a low dose of COVID? Exposure is exposure....Its all the same.

3 Million is a lot of people....And if were to pass from it---I mean, thats how it goes. I mean I could also get killed tomorrow by a drunk driver---Should I quit driving?

I know its not about JUST me...So save the "rah-rah" speech for someone else. Thats why I asked---Is it important to you because of YOU---or b/c of others? More than 50% of the country is fully vaccinated. Of those not vaccinated, I'd say many have had COVID---And according to the same CDC that pushes the vaccine---the same administration that is also pushing this vaccination, is also the same ones saying its very rare to contract COVID twice.. So if its rare to be infected twice----why again shiould I get vaccinated?
Do you believe that if you get one viral particle inside you that you will get sick? Exposure is not exposure.

3 million is a lot of people. However, the vaccine eliminates the drunk drivers and allows you to keep driving.

Rah rah speech? Did you not ask me and then me answer it? Don't ask me to "save it" when you asked for it.

You asked me to give you reasons to get vaccinated and I did. If you don't want the answers from me don't ask and especially don't ask twice.
 
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