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The guy guarding Reddish actually pinches down on the white dude under the basket even though he was already covered and never going to get the ball. Good play. Bad defense. Both can coexist.
Gotta agree. While I think it was a great inbounds call it is, as are all plays, guard able. Wouldn't say anyone feel asleep, more that they got tunnel vision on Barrett and the rim.
 
You are somewhat reasonable. But the reason for the poor defensive play was because they fell for the trick. The play call created the bad defense.

What trick? The white dude down crashing to the baseline where anyone would figure he would go? The only other option for him would be to screen for Reddish, in which the defender would still need to stick on Cam. My point isn't knocking the play. It was a good play for sure. My point is there are two people who are going to take that shot. They ignored one of them because of some guy who was never, ever going to get the ball and was already covered. The guy who blew it had nothing to do with RJ and never would in that setup. That is bad D. Even some of the basketball guys (who don't hate Duke) on Twitter seem to realize this. It doesn't take away from the play.
 
What trick? The white dude down crashing to the baseline where anyone would figure he would go? The only other option for him would be to screen for Reddish, in which the defender would still need to stick on Cam. My point isn't knocking the play. It was a good play for sure. My point is there are two people who are going to take that shot. They ignored one of them because of some guy who was never, ever going to get the ball and was already covered. The guy who blew it had nothing to do with RJ and never would in that setup. That is bad D. Even some of the basketball guys (who don't hate Duke) on Twitter seem to realize this. It doesn't take away from the play.
Good games today.
 
Still not sure how this wasn’t called, but oh well! The Basketball Gods Giveith and the Basketball Gods Takeith

He does seem to get the Shaq treatment in that regard. That said, the play didn't look that bad live. He already lost the ball when it happened and and I don't think anyone saw the face contact at the time. Except for Zion, unfortunately.
 
He does seem to get the Shaq treatment in that regard. That said, the play didn't look that bad live. He already lost the ball when it happened and and I don't think anyone saw the face contact at the time. Except for Zion, unfortunately.
The foul that caused the ball to come loose was when the guy hit Zion's arm. That was prior to the eye poke. Though he was likely to come up empty without the foul anyways.
 
The foul that caused the ball to come loose was when the guy hit Zion's arm. That was prior to the eye poke. Though he was likely to come up empty without the foul anyways.

Idk, I just watched it five more times and I'm not seeing it. I think he lost the ball on his own. No one on the coaching staff, players on the bench, or even fans in the stands argued the no call. In fact, no one even stands up.
 
kid should be suspended. there were a few calls i thought that didn't go duke's way that led to FSU taking the lead at end of the first half. that was a key stretch because there was a time, just before, when it looked like duke was gonna run away from fsu.
 
I know we all like to throw around the 'obsessed' word too liberally but this dude fits it pretty well.
 
I know we all like to throw around the 'obsessed' word too liberally but this dude fits it pretty well.
I am sure someone who thinks they are intelligent, like you, knows the word “hypocrisy”. Total joke thread.

Sorry all you wonderful keyboard warriors got so upset.
 
I am sure someone who thinks they are intelligent knows the word “hypocrisy”. Total joke thread.

Sorry all you wonderful keyboard warriors got so upset.

Lol, yeah man. I'm all tore up over here. I do like the 'joke thread' and 'joke name' play though. It's not true but not sure what other direction you can go.
 
kid should be suspended. there were a few calls i thought that didn't go duke's way that led to FSU taking the lead at end of the first half. that was a key stretch because there was a time, just before, when it looked like duke was gonna run away from fsu.
Lets not be a bitch here. He was half the size of Zion and going for the ball. Shouldve definitely been a foul though.

Duke ultimately got the call at the end though so I dont see how Duke fans can complain about the refs. Ball clearly changed spin direction after hitting the Duke player on its way out. No way that shouldve been overturned.
 
I am sure someone who thinks they are intelligent, like you, knows the word “hypocrisy”. Total joke thread.

Sorry all you wonderful keyboard warriors got so upset.

You made your username about a scandal that UNC received no punishment for. Talk about keyboard warrior huh?
 
Still not sure how this wasn’t called, but oh well! The Basketball Gods Giveith and the Basketball Gods Takeith
LMAO...I mean, do you know how many plays like this go uncalled? Yeah it looks so easy in a still pic. Sheesh. This is the agenda ran shit that just irritates me.

And BTW----From what I saw, there were two other officials on the floor. But Valentine gets the headline.

Not botching at you "Q". This type of "reporting" just irritates the shit out of me.
 
Hopefully, Duke’s two true road wins this week allow that AP voter Graham Couch or whatever his name vote Duke No. 1 for all of the weeks he refused to! Jerk!
 
Lets not be a bitch here. He was half the size of Zion and going for the ball. Shouldve definitely been a foul though.

Duke ultimately got the call at the end though so I dont see how Duke fans can complain about the refs. Ball clearly changed spin direction after hitting the Duke player on its way out. No way that shouldve been overturned.
Whoa, wait----You think that ball hit Duke? Did you see the overhead view? That ball missed him by 6 inches.
 
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LMAO...I mean, do you know how many plays like this go uncalled? Yeah it looks so easy in a still pic. Sheesh. This is the agenda ran shit that just irritates me.

And BTW----From what I saw, there were two other officials on the floor. But Valentine gets the headline.

Not botching at you "Q". This type of "reporting" just irritates the shit out of me.

I hear ya! I just like to give shit to certain fans who would have turned this into a 20 page thread if Zion had been the poker and of course called a dirty player.
 
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Whoa, wait----You think that ball hit Duke? Did you see the overhead view? That ball missed him by 6 inches.

Yeah, he didn’t touch that. It was a clear call even in real time... not sure how they got it wrong to begin with.
 
Yeah, he didn’t touch that. It was a clear call even in real time... not sure how they got it wrong to begin with.
Meh.....Instant replay makes things look a lot easier than what they seem. Angles man. All about your angle as an official.
 
LMAO...I mean, do you know how many plays like this go uncalled? Yeah it looks so easy in a still pic. Sheesh. This is the agenda ran shit that just irritates me.

And BTW----From what I saw, there were two other officials on the floor. But Valentine gets the headline.

Not botching at you "Q". This type of "reporting" just irritates the shit out of me.

I hear ya! I just like to give shit to certain fans who would have turned this into a 20 page thread if Zion had been the poker and of course called a dirty player.


You are doing your part to right the potential but non-existent wrongs that aren’t really there. Always the victim but not really because you are only retaliating for what might, but actually didn’t, happen. Has to be tough to always come up with these things so you can do what you do.
 
You are doing your part to right the potential but non-existent wrongs that aren’t really there. Always the victim but not really because you are only retaliating for what might, but actually didn’t, happen. Has to be tough to always come up with these things so you can do what you do.
Did you just call me an asshole?
 
You are doing your part to right the potential but non-existent wrongs that aren’t really there. Always the victim but not really because you are only retaliating for what might, but actually didn’t, happen. Has to be tough to always come up with these things so you can do what you do.
Are you talking to me? Or "Q"?
 
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