I agree. I’m sure he would be a great player in today’s game. How good would be a fun topic.
Challenge: pick your all time starting 5, but no one from same decade
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Bringing up Shaq is interesting. If there was some center who went into high school today and ended up being a top 12 player of all time, the difference in age between him and Shaq would be the same as Shaq’s to Wilt’s.
Nobody would say ever say somebody coming up in 10 years would push Shaq around, unless of course it was a younger version of Jimbo. There’s always going to be young guys who think that you have to ignore the athleticism and skills of anybody about 25-30 years before. There will eventually be kids saying you have to ignore the NBA players before 2000.
Nobody would say ever say somebody coming up in 10 years would push Shaq around, unless of course it was a younger version of Jimbo. There’s always going to be young guys who think that you have to ignore the athleticism and skills of anybody about 25-30 years before. There will eventually be kids saying you have to ignore the NBA players before 2000.
PG Dejaun Wheat 90s
SG Darryl Griffith 80s
SF Francisco Garcia 2000s
PF Montrezl Harrell 2010s
C. Wes Unseld 60s
SG Darryl Griffith 80s
SF Francisco Garcia 2000s
PF Montrezl Harrell 2010s
C. Wes Unseld 60s
Shaq is an outlier. So is Magic, Larry, Wilt. You know this. Of course those guys would do well. Players today have been playing basketball year round for most of their lives. They have resources and tools that guys 50 years ago didn’t. Not to mention, humans have just evolved athletically over time. Half the people playing 50 years ago couldn’t dunk a basketball. You’re average NBA starter is night and day better than they were in Wilts time
Eventually a version of you will come along someday and tell you that you can’t compare Jordan, Drexler, Shaq and Wade to players of his day. And when you try to argue with him you will be old man yells at cloud.
When he tells me that players are faster and can jump higher and can shoot better, yes, I will believe him. Because logic.
Minnesota
PG Bobby Jackson 90's
SG Dick Garmaker 50's
SF "Sweet" Lou Hudson 60's
PF Kevin Mchale 80's
C Mychal Thompson 70's
PG Bobby Jackson 90's
SG Dick Garmaker 50's
SF "Sweet" Lou Hudson 60's
PF Kevin Mchale 80's
C Mychal Thompson 70's
UCLA would have the best lineup.
Someone can create one for them but they would have everything just off the top of my head.
yes, no question on that
Alcinder /Jabbar
Walton
Goodrich
Walt Hazzard or KiKi
Wicks or Reggie Miller
None of those mean a person is better at the game itself. The players generally are only faster and stronger because that’s how they get drafted. For the most part humans haven’t changed a whole lot in tens of thousands of years. People aren’t just born bigger and stronger because it’s 2020.
Any big today would need a shot and the ability to play on the perimeter.
Shaq was the last of the era but was being phased out towards the end.
Kareem would be a center who I would love to see play today. I think he has the tools to adjust to the wide open game.
Any team wanting to throw a big into the paint to camp out won't be efficient enough on offense unless that center can totally dominate.
yeah, so many to pick from... Westbrook, Marques Johnson, Kevin Love, Henry Bibby...
The average height of NBA players today is 6’7 and the average weight is 217 lbs. The average height of a player from 1960 is 6’5 1/2. This doesn’t take into count either that we are in the era of small ball where as 50 years ago, it was a game dominated by bigs.
This link is pretty neat. You’re just wrong on this one.
https://runrepeat.com/height-evolution-in-the-nba
I’m not wrong on anything. I’ve never said players aren’t taller. I’m saying that being taller with a higher vertical doesn’t mean you’re a better player. You seem to want to ignore how good Wilt and Russell were because of their era. If this were 2040 you’d say the same thing about Magic and Bird and Jordan.
Yesterday it was Barkley > Wilt. I'm fully expecting a UNC fan to pop in any second to announce that Hansbrough would eat Chamberlain's lunch.
You have completely ignored my posts it feels like. I literally posted that Wilt and guys like Larry and Magic and Shaq would be fine in any era. Great players in any era. Why is it so hard to admit that the average player today is better than 40, 50 years ago? And guess what, 50 years down the road, the average player will be better than they are today.
You literally kicked this whole thing off by claiming Wilt couldn’t hang with Davis because of the era he played in.
But you also have to acknowledge that Wilt didn't just dominate vs the average player; he dominated vs the Bill Russells of the era, too. Averaged 30 and 28 vs Russell and held Russell to 37% shooting. Also once grabbed 55 boards against him.
Bill Russell would dominate today's game
Long arms and athletic.
Bill Russell was a physical specimen.
His issue was that he controlled the game mainly on a Defensive end and as a leader
Post MJ I don't think that works.
But this doesn't say Bill Russell couldn't turn into an Anthony Davis on offense.
Long arms and athletic.
Bill Russell was a physical specimen.
His issue was that he controlled the game mainly on a Defensive end and as a leader
Post MJ I don't think that works.
But this doesn't say Bill Russell couldn't turn into an Anthony Davis on offense.
Wilt was the only player that dunked FT's till they changed the rule. his ability to jump was that great.
I can’t keep up with this and Gil in the stock market thread at the same time.
I need a break, lol.
But for real, KU wins that game 2 out of 3.
Also, 2008>2012
@JimboBBN
I need a break, lol.
But for real, KU wins that game 2 out of 3.
Also, 2008>2012
@JimboBBN
Some players would be better in today's game while others wouldn't
You could say the same about certain players.
You see a big like Marc Gasol. Gasol would be much better in an era of back to the basket.
Robin Lopez as well.
Bill Russell could play on the perimeter. If you really watch him play you would see that he could play in both eras
You open up the game and he could be an even better player
You could say the same about certain players.
You see a big like Marc Gasol. Gasol would be much better in an era of back to the basket.
Robin Lopez as well.
Bill Russell could play on the perimeter. If you really watch him play you would see that he could play in both eras
You open up the game and he could be an even better player
Wilt would dominate in today's game. he was unstoppable as he was/is thew only player to score over 100 points in a game and avg over 50 ppg.
I get a laugh out of these annoucers get all slobbery over a player when they either score in the 50's or come close, like its some kind of a major accomplishment,
Yes, that is impressive. What do you think he would average in today’s game?
around 30 ppg.
you have to remember who he was going up against like Bill Russel. Jabbar. so its not like he was the tallest player on the court. when Wilt played the game was dominated by the bigs,
now its the 6'7 to 6'9 players.
it will go thru another cycle again as today bigs are getting better and more plentiful.
I guess Wall technically counts, since he played in the 09-10 season. But he didn't play in an NCAA Tournaments that decade, and only 4 games against schools from power conferences. Seems a little loose on the interpretation of the OP's requirements, IMO.
I’m going to break the rules here a bit, but I’m going to break the positional rule a bit. Magic Johnson won the Finals MVP the year after MSU as a center.
PG- Mateen Cleaves (90)
SG- Steve Smith (80)
SF- Denzel Valentine (10)
PF- Draymond Green (00)
C- Magic Johnson (70)
PG- Mateen Cleaves (90)
SG- Steve Smith (80)
SF- Denzel Valentine (10)
PF- Draymond Green (00)
C- Magic Johnson (70)
We have 9 National Player of the Years. 7 of them have won the AP NPOY. No other school has had 3 different players win the AP National Player of the Year. Objectively, Duke seems like the logical choice.
Come on now, regardless of ur age surely you can see the physical specimens in today’s game and conclude that players are much more athletic than they were even 25 years ago. I’d also be willing to bet the average height of NBA players is much taller as well. I don’t see how you can watch any nba games and not see that, and I’m no where near Jimbo on the ad vs wilt debate. But when u have guys like Lebron or Giannis or even AD, or Westbrook and on and on and on and that’s just the stars, not even mentioning the athletic freaks like Aaron Gordon or LaVine, the athleticism of today’s game is on a different level than any other past era.
Heck just look at what the dunk contest has become, a bunch of mostly second tier guys who are super athletic and can hammer. It used to be many of the best players bc not everyone was athletic enough to dunk like the elite players.
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Not sure about Hansbrough but I bet Wilt never saw anything like this when he played.
Not sure about Hansbrough but I bet Wilt never saw anything like this when he played.
UNC defeated Wilt/KU in the championship game in 1957.
Fair.
PG: Rajon Rondo (00s)
SG: Rex Chapman (80s)
SF: Jamal Mashburn (90s)
PF: Dan Issel (60s)
C: Anthony Davis (10s)
As long as Tubby isn’t coaching, not much of a drop off.
