I have no problem with that. The bottom line is, there is a proven program in place that works.
If you work hard and follow the program, you could be one of those guys in the lottery on draft night.
Bilas and Calipari Disagree
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If you work hard and follow the program, you could be one of those guys in the lottery on draft night.
A reporter asked about Bilas' comments during the press conference and that was his answer.
But never mind all that, he's just insecure and brought it up for no reason.
A reporter asked about Bilas' comments during the press conference and that was his answer.
But never mind all that, he's just insecure and brought it up for no reason.
I didn’t say he brought it up. He didn’t have to respond though.
Then the story would be how Calipari dodged a question during a press conference.
Hmmm. It appears that John Calipari and company are now coercing the press in order to get them to ask questions that will result in newsworthy answers. I take it that this was probably a news conference hosted on the Kentucky campus?
Nice. It sure was. How long until K and Self starts coercing their local press? Calipari is a trendsetter.
Now that everyone knows the context....carry on.
WHo said he brought it up? I didn't. But why go into such detail? Could have simply said---"I disagree. We've had some kids who were not expected to he draft picks, get drafted. As have other schools.....".A reporter asked about Bilas' comments during the press conference and that was his answer.
But never mind all that, he's just insecure and brought it up for no reason.
Nope. That's to simple of an answer for John.
If Calipari isn't anything else, he's long winded.
Anyway, if he didn't answer, he dodging. If he's thorough, he should have been more concise. If he just responds to Bilas' statement, he insecure. Got it.
You guys are so sensitive. I mean, you really are. If he doesn't answer---He doesn't answer. For a fan base that loves attention---You guys sure bitch about getting it.If Calipari isn't anything else, he's long winded.
Anyway, if he didn't answer, he dodging. If he's thorough, he should have been more concise. If he just responds to Bilas' statement, he insecure. Got it.
Haha, who's bitching? I just posted in this thread to provide context and make a few jokes.
My bad...Here I was thinking , "if he didn't asnwer, he's dodging.....If hes thorough, he should have been more concise, etc, etc...{.Was "bitching"}. My mistake. And apology.
The fact that Skal got drafted after his season at UK should be an endorsement for Cal. Not an indictment.
What about Trey's 2nd contract? The fact that he got one? Tons of 1st round picks never do.
Why don't you go look at a list of top 25 prospects over the past 10 years and see how many names you forgot after their recruiting class signed. You trying to disparage cal, who has by far the best success rate at putting and keeping guys in the NBA, is quite hilarious.
First of all, the jury is still out on hagans, Q uickley, Montgomery, and Richards. Secondly, Matthews and Baker were borderline top 50 recruits who decided to only stay a year. Green should have been a borderline top 50 recruit (explain what justified him being top 25) that only stayed a year. Briscoe and diallo are on nba playoff rosters. Poythress has really good nba stats and has played all 3 years.
So really your indictment comes down to gabriel and skj. One player who was timid most of his career and another with a well documented poor work ethic.
And not sure how the 35th ranked recruit getting drafted 13th when he is amongst 4 eligible draft classes and eligible international prospects is "slightly" exceeding expectations.
Your post is beyond uninformed.
Nah...you just missed the point.
Why couldn’t he use the same magic wand to accelerate their development a la Herro? And that’s just a few names from recent years. Plenty more could be added. Again, the Herros are the exception, not the rule. It’s a short list.
By the way, if Green was overrated as a recruit, isn’t it equally possible that Herro was underrated? Hmmmm.....
Nothing can get some of you more riled up than Cal opening his mouth. Usual suspects at it again.
They trademarked “Big team, better me?
That’s a terrible motto. It doesn’t even make sense.
He mad.
That’s a terrible motto. It doesn’t even make sense.
He mad.
Chris Beard has developed two 3 star kids into lottery picks in back to back years.. Now that is impressive.
Nah....it's waaaay more impressive to turn a couple top 30ish prospects into high picks in 10 years.
No one else can hope to match such results.
What Roy has done is what is really impressive tbh. He takes guys who don't have the skills to succeed in the NBA and still gets them drafted high and also consistently wins with those players. Dude is so good he has NBA guys consistently fooled that his players are better than they actually are, then when they get away from his coaching and tutelage they struggle.
That's more impressive than Beard getting two 3 stars into the lottery in back to back years?
I don't know what's impressive about a surefire OAD like Barnes returning to college for another year. Or having a slew of 5 star talents stay a year or two longer than expected. However he does it, it's obviously great for winning college games, but not impressive in terms of developing them for the league.
Most drafted players struggle, by the way.
Coaches have little to do with developing players for the NBA. Once they get there with all the trainers and time and extra coaching they have all the advantages to actually reach their potential. I mean, it is pretty absurd to think college coaches with such limited time can develop a guy (even in a few years) compared to just one or two years in the league with isolated professional training. Surely people understand this. Coaches can be somewhat credited with putting players in a position to get showcased and drafted though.
Well, many players do develop dramatically while in college. I think their coaches deserve some credit for that.
And there’s no denying that Roy has had a disproportionate number of players that stayed longer than expected. As one example, somebody posted a list of the top 20 or so from a certain year, and the only players that didn’t leave after that season were the 3 or 4 UNC players. It’s hard to call that coincidence.
Sure, Roy's players develop dramatically just like you have pointed out. What does staying have to do with anything? It is weird to think it is a negative that players actually enjoy playing at UNC for Roy. Again, that only reinforces my point. He takes guys who aren't as talented as some others (which becomes obvious a few years down the road) and they still end up kicking ass and getting drafted high all while peaking under Roy. I can't open the eyes of the blind here.
Well, what else would you say?
What's weird is suggesting that any player that could jump to the league would rather come back, risk injury, and go to class, all for the love of ol' Roy.
And it is a negative if he's begging them to stay and/or withholding info that might convince them to leave.
If you believe that I feel your bias and agenda makes you blind to any sort of reason. Any coach who did that wouldn't last a couple of years before being out on their ass. Like most all coaches who deal with potential pros, he has told many of them to go pro. It is weird people don't realize this.
Did he tell Harrison Barnes to go pro?
I don't see how/why you think he would be out on his ass. If, for example, he speaks to multiple GMs/scouts that tell him they'd likely draft a player in the first round, but doesn't pass this on to said player...how would that catch up to him?
I'm not accusing him of anything in particular, but it raises questions.
When he had the only 3 three players out of 20+ in a recruiting class that stayed in college, it's kind of eyebrow-raising. And that's only one example.
How would it catch up to him? Seriously? Those things wouldn’t remain a secret. Surely you realize this. It would be career suicide. Roy’s career has been the opposite of that. His players love him. They come back every summer. You think they would go that if he was dishonest with them? That’s good stuff there.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Bilas: "Stop cheating to get recruits."
Calipari: "I don't cheat to get recruits."
Bilas: "Now you're just lying."
Calipari: "I never lie......"
Calipari: "I don't cheat to get recruits."
Bilas: "Now you're just lying."
Calipari: "I never lie......"
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Holy shit, is Jay Bilas sitting in his great grandfather's living room? Where did he get that 1967 recliner chair and drapes from?
I'm surprised there wasn't a plastic cover on that chair. Wow.
Is it just me, or did Jay also look like he was 65 years old in that clip?
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