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Best start in Michigan’s history

It’s completely relevant to right now. We had this conversation the other day. It’s why Indiana has the perception people think of them today.

But you’re probably right. Being here now really has nothing to do with Kansas anymore. I’m here for the long haul.
I don't care what "people" think of IU. Unless those people are recruits. And lately, IU's lack of success hasn't hurt them. That's all I'm worried about.
 
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I don't care what "people" think of IU. Unless those people are recruits. And lately, IU's lack of success hasn't hurt them. That's all I'm worried about.
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So having the 7th rated class is your definition of hurting IU? Miller in his first season signed four, 4*'s and a 5*. In all likelihood he'll add two more 5*'s next year. Like I said, IU's lack of success hasn't hurt them. Not sure what's so confusing here.
 
So having the 7th rated class is your definition of hurting IU? Miller in his first season signed four, 4*'s and a 5*. In all likelihood he'll add two more 5*'s next year. Like I said, IU's lack of success hasn't hurt them. Not sure what's so confusing here.
It was the whole “ And lately, IU’s lack of success hasn’t hurt them” line. I’m not sure anybody here would say Indiana has had any real success lately except for maybe people in the Big 10 thread.

Sorry, I just don’t recall any recent Indiana success except for maybe a Sweet 16? Didn’t you guys do that once or twice in the last 10 years?
 
It was the whole “ And lately, IU’s lack of success hasn’t hurt them” line. I’m not sure anybody here would say Indiana has had any real success lately except for maybe people in the Big 10 thread.

Sorry, I just don’t recall any recent Indiana success except for maybe a Sweet 16? Didn’t you guys do that once or twice in the last 10 years?
Where did I say they've have success? MOF, I said "their LACK of success". I'm speaking in terms of recruiting. Their lack of success hasn't hurt them . That's all I worry about. In other words, I don't care what ESPN thinks of IU....or how people on here view IU. I just care how HS recruits view them. And lately, thier lack of success hasn't hurt them in that sense.

Felt what I was talking about was rather clear.
 
Where did I say they've have success? MOF, I said "their LACK of success". I'm speaking in terms of recruiting. Their lack of success hasn't hurt them . That's all I worry about. In other words, I don't care what ESPN thinks of IU....or how people on here view IU. I just care how HS recruits view them. And lately, thier lack of success hasn't hurt them in that sense.

Felt what I was talking about was rather clear.
Yes you’re right. I misinterpreted what you said even though I pointed it out. I’ve misinterpreted a lot ITT.

But I agree. Indiana has had a lot of lack of success in my lifetime.

By the way, what does ESPN think of them?
 
Now you are trolling...None of what you said is relevant. How many Top 10 teams is UVA gonna play away from home between now, and March? Or Duke? I will tell you-----
Based on the current AP poll rankings before the new rankings come out tomorrow, we have 2 road games against teams currently ranked in the top 10 @Virginia and @Virginia Tech and potentially a third game if UNC moves into the top 10 by the time of the first game against them in Chapel Hill on February 20th.
 
Yes you’re right. I misinterpreted what you said even though I pointed it out. I’ve misinterpreted a lot ITT.

But I agree. Indiana has had a lot of lack of success in my lifetime.

By the way, what does ESPN think of them?
I dunno.....

Yes, IU has had a lot of "lack of success" in your life. So have a lot of teams. I just don't get caught up in the, "we've done this the past 10, 15 or 20 years". I just don't think its important. It has very little to do with how IU will do this year. Or next. Year by year for me.
 
Based on the current AP poll rankings before the new rankings come out tomorrow, we have 2 road games against teams currently ranked in the top 10 @Virginia and @Virginia Tech and potentially a third game if UNC moves into the top 10 by the time of the first game against them in Chapel Hill on February 20th.
Ummmm, yeah----I wouldn't count on that.

Also, I realize Duke has potentially two road games vs Top 10 teams. My argument is, that doesn't make them "more battle tested" than Michigan; who only has one(@ MSU). Unless of course you feel one more game makes that much of a difference. I don't.

Both the ACC and Big 10 are going to be very difficult conference's.
 
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Based on the current AP poll rankings before the new rankings come out tomorrow, we have 2 road games against teams currently ranked in the top 10 @Virginia and @Virginia Tech and potentially a third game if UNC moves into the top 10 by the time of the first game against them in Chapel Hill on February 20th.

Right, so his cherry picked criteria for “battle tested” is pretty lame.
 
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I think he means they won’t be battle tested because they play in the Big 10. The Big 10 rarely ever wins in anything important involving football or basketball. They’re not ever Big 12 bad but they’re pretty awful at major sports. Barely even a major conference, IMO. Neither is the Big 12 though. Don’t @ me.
This has to be a troll. If so, well done.
 
Sure. What’s your point? You shit the bed against a lesser opponent. UVA just doesn’t play the type of basketball generally successful in tournament play.
Tennessee fan now knows the best way to play basketball and win in the tournament? o_O Please, tell me more.
 
No wonder UK fans hate UT. They come out from under a rock and want to tell the 2 time national runner up in recent history that there SOS is bad. Lol.

UT fans, go back under your rock.
 
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No wonder UK fans hate UT. They come out from under a rock and want to tell the 2 time national runner up in recent history that there SOS is bad. Lol.

UT fans, go back under your rock.

I'm sure you meant well, but I'm guessing UK fans would resent that label.
 
UM’s been snacking on a lot of cupcakes and home games. We’ll see how things go once they play some tougher games.

I haven’t seen anything special out of the Big Ten this year beyond UM and MSU. I question just how good some of these wins are relative to the rest of college basketball. We’ll see.
 
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Sure you would...I couldn't care less what the past 30 years have been like. None of its relevant to right now. I don't care about what happened then. I care about what happens now. And anyways.....IU's history is always going to be what it is. Past 25 seasons doesn't wipe that out.
It doesn't wipe that out but it sure enhances it. It provides clarity to the present IU history.
 
You poke me in the eye and I will respond.

SmokinSmile

Come on, Bert. That wasn't poking you in the eye. It was less than what you did to the poster you were quoting. Now, if I had said something like, "at least they were drunk when they made the typo," I could see you getting upset. ;)
 
UM’s been snacking on a lot of cupcakes and home games. We’ll see how things go once they play some tougher games.

I haven’t seen anything special out of the Big Ten this year beyond UM and MSU. I question just how good some of these wins are relative to the rest of college basketball. We’ll see.

Michigan has played 4 kenpom top 25 teams (one on the road) and have won those games by 27, 17, 19, and 11.

But continue with the narrative that Michigan has no good wins.
 
Ummmm, yeah----I wouldn't count on that.

Also, I realize Duke has potentially two road games vs Top 10 teams. My argument is, that doesn't make them "more battle tested" than Michigan; who only has one(@ MSU). Unless of course you feel one more game makes that much of a difference. I don't.

Both the ACC and Big 10 are going to be very difficult conference's.
You don’t think UNC can move up 3 spots by February 20th? Interesting.
 
Michigan has played 4 kenpom top 25 teams (one on the road) and have won those games by 27, 17, 19, and 11.

But continue with the narrative that Michigan has no good wins.

I don’t care about Kenpom. UM played Nova very early in the season. They were just beginning to play together vs a very motivated and much more experienced UM.

UNC was a home game and as were seeing, UNC isn’t typical UNC. They got crushed by Louisville. Playing on the road in college is hard. This isn’t the NBA.

I’m not even saying UM is bad or anything. I’m just trying to explain why people are skeptical. UM just needs to keep winning but I think by the end of the year not playing at Purdue or at OSU and having a lack luster non conference will impact seeding. I’m not sure how UM arrived at this schedule but it’s loaded with home games.
 
Wyd does it even matter about their SOS? They are beating everyone on their schedule so far. It's not their fault. And Nova is now #22
 
Wyd does it even matter about their SOS? They are beating everyone on their schedule so far. It's not their fault. And Nova is now #22

SOS matters quite a bit every year. It’s probably the most heavily debated topic come March. Entire discussions center around SOS when comparing similar teams. There are over 300 D1 basketball teams.

Again, I’m not trying to room UM but reading some of the comments in this thread sparked my interest. I figured I’d provide some explanation to hail for why people remain skeptical. Lots of basketball left to be played.
 
No, but you don’t play in the ACC either. B1G is average, and as previously stated, you don’t have a ton of tough road games (IU and the last game of the year at MSU). I’d say the same thing about Tennessee if they hadn’t played anyone in the early season.

B1G and SEC are pretty similar this season.

Anyone that doesn't play in the ACC isn't battle tested?

Didnt the B1G go 7-7 vs the ACC in the challenge?

Are teams like UNC, NC St, and Fla St really head and shoulders above teams like Ohio St, Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, etc?

Didnt Purdue only lose by one score at FSU?
 
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I don’t care about Kenpom. UM played Nova very early in the season. They were just beginning to play together vs a very motivated and much more experienced UM.

UNC was a home game and as were seeing, UNC isn’t typical UNC. They got crushed by Louisville. Playing on the road in college is hard. This isn’t the NBA.

I’m not even saying UM is bad or anything. I’m just trying to explain why people are skeptical. UM just needs to keep winning but I think by the end of the year not playing at Purdue or at OSU and having a lack luster non conference will impact seeding. I’m not sure how UM arrived at this schedule but it’s loaded with home games.

Michigan hasn't played any great teams but they've played a handful of good teams and blown them all out. I don't care when Michigan played AT Villanova..... beating a top 25 team on the road by 27 is impressive.
 
SOS matters quite a bit every year. It’s probably the most heavily debated topic come March. Entire discussions center around SOS when comparing similar teams. There are over 300 D1 basketball teams.

Again, I’m not trying to room UM but reading some of the comments in this thread sparked my interest. I figured I’d provide some explanation to hail for why people remain skeptical. Lots of basketball left to be played.

Michigan's schedule has been average but they have taken care of business and then some. They are #2 in NET rankings which is what the committee is using this year in pace of RPI.

Did you actually read the comments in the thread? He isn't saying he's skeptical of Michigan's current ranking. I'd be fine with something weary of Michigan being a top 2 team. Rather, he is saying that he's skeptical of Michigan even being legit. There is no justification for that aside from that the guy is a main board troll posting here while drunk.
 
A:
2017/18
Simpson/Adbur-Rahkman/Matthews/Duncan Robinson/Moe Wagner

vs

B:
2018/19
Simpson/Jordan Poole/Matthews/Ignas Brazdeikas/Jon Teske


I don't think I would make that swap if given the choice.
 
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