Virginia played a role in that.Pretty crazy that last time Duke won regular season and tourney titles in same year was 2006.
What was he crying about? I didn't hear him come up for air between sucking off Flagg and Scheyer. 😛Dickie V is a crybaby bitch.
Yeah, but you guys still owned us for most of our run. Just shows how hard it is to win both. To do it without Cooper and Maliq is impressive, or speaks volumes about current state of the ACC, or both.Virginia played a role in that.
Cancer, how dare you.What was he crying about? I didn't hear him come up for air between sucking off Flagg and Scheyer. 😛
This, good god that was rough listen.What was he crying about? I didn't hear him come up for air between sucking off Flagg and Scheyer. 😛
Unless they run zone.Yeah, Duke is solid on both ends which makes them elite.
Good game
Yeah, that was pretty bad. Duke shouldn't do that again this year.Unless they run zone.
Didn't retire, but Pitino left as well.This is by far the worst ACC b ball season and credit to the SEC, Big12, Big10, etc. But least not pretend that the conference will face some sort of adjustment period with the retirement of several legendary coaches. Williams, K, Boeheim, Bennett, Larranaga and now Hamilton are gone. Add NIL money and you can see where the conference will have a downturn.
We live in a what have you done lately culture.Meaning most just care about 1-3 seasons max. SEC fans are notorious for this line of thinking.Just for reference: N.C. State is the sixth different ACC team to reach a Final Four dating to 2015, while 10 different ACC teams reached at least one Elite Eight and three — Duke in 2015, North Carolina in 2017 and Virginia in 2019 — won the national title in that span. The ACC has 10 more Sweet 16 appearances (31) and eight more Elite Eights (19) than the Big 12 as the next closest league, while the ACC’s nine Final Fours nearly double that of the Big 12, Big East and Big Ten (each with five). Yeah, poor old ACC.
,,,and yet the level of suckage from this conference this season is off the charts.Just for reference: N.C. State is the sixth different ACC team to reach a Final Four dating to 2015, while 10 different ACC teams reached at least one Elite Eight and three — Duke in 2015, North Carolina in 2017 and Vir...ginia in 2019 — won the national title in that span. The ACC has 10 more Sweet 16 appearances (31) and eight more Elite Eights (19) than the Big 12 as the next closest league, while the ACC’s nine Final Fours nearly double that of the Big 12, Big East and Big Ten (each with five). Yeah, poor old ACC.
You are right and your point is what in regard to tournament success? However, when it counts, there is one conference above the rest. Hint, it isn't a conference with Big in its title. It isn't a conference that starts with the letter S. M, P, C etc. It is the ACC. Been that way for decades. Again, you can have all the bids in the world, but it doesn't matter if your teams can't perform when it counts the most. Maybe you celebrate your conference success by regular season W-L records. Fans of the ACC celebrate a bit different. We like 1st and foremost Chips, then Final Fours, then Elite Eights and finally Sweet 16s. I get it, if your conference hasn't been relevant in those categories, especially Chips and Final Fours, I would celebrate the regular season as well. Just saying.,,,and yet the level of suckage from this conference this season is off the charts.
And of course, it would be a UK fan. You guys are the experts on conference strength. Must be shocking to finally have a conference that is more than 2-3 team deep.,,,and yet the level of suckage from this conference this season is off the charts.
Conference strength is irrelevant to the all time winningest program.And of course, it would be a UK fan. You guys are the experts on conference strength. Must be shocking to finally have a conference that is more than 2-3 team deep.
You are right and your point is what in regard to tournament success? However, when it counts, there is one conference above the rest. Hint, it isn't a conference with Big in its title. It isn't a conference that starts with the letter S. M, P, C etc. It is the ACC. Been that way for decades. Again, you can have all the bids in the world, but it doesn't matter if your teams can't perform when it counts the most. Maybe you celebrate your conference success by regular season W-L records. Fans of the ACC celebrate a bit different. We like 1st and foremost Chips, then Final Fours, then Elite Eights and finally Sweet 16s. I get it, if your conference hasn't been relevant in those categories, especially Chips and Final Fours, I would celebrate the regular season as well. Just saying.
If they are going to thump their chest about a single season of regular season basketball success, they may want to brush up on that 1-3 year history. 3 years removed from 2 ACC teams playing in the Final Four... one in the championship. 1 season away from 1 ACC team playing in the Final Four. And that was after another team played in the FF the season before. 5 years away from an ACC team winning it all. And yet that 3-year scope is not that flattering for the SEC. Just saying.We live in a what have you done lately culture.Meaning most just care about 1-3 seasons max. SEC fans are notorious for this line of thinking.
Dude you guys can get 20. As long as we continue to dominate the tourney and win it all or make the FF or elite 8, yall can continue to show the overhype associated with a conference regular season record. Strange, since when is the journey more important than the actually end goal? A famous football coach, that's something you should be familiar with, well at least from the fact that lesser SEC football programs get to chant SEC, SEC... I digress. A famous football coach once stated, "That's why you play the game!!!". The season is played to get to those chips. That is why you brought up UK's 8 chips right? Low hanging fruit.....yawwwwwwn. Lemme know when the dreadful ACC ever gets 14 teams in the dance.
Timeframing = loser's argument.Where is UCLA fans to ask if anyone have 11? See how that works. Aren't you the "what have you done lately conference" or do you want to move the goal post again. Great UK has 8 titles. Good for them. But we were talking about conference success in the tourney. By the way, when was the last time UK sniffed a title, a FF? Was it in that 3 year scope? No need to respond... it was 2015 when an ACC team won the title. Title number 8 was 2012. Since that is cleared up, let's get back to the topic at hand. Conference regular season success vs conference tourney success.
Nope, just pointing out that when you're the leader in all-time wins and got 8 titles to boot, conference strength is irrelevant.Dude you guys can get 20. As long as we continue to dominate the tourney and win it all or make the FF or elite 8, yall can continue to show the overhype associated with a conference regular season record. Strange, since when is the journey more important than the actually end goal? A famous football coach, that's something you should be familiar with, well at least from the fact that lesser SEC football programs get to chant SEC, SEC... I digress. A famous football coach once stated, "That's why you play the game!!!". The season is played to get to those chips. That is why you brought up UK's 8 chips right? Low hanging fruit.
I know you don’t post here often, Kentucky fans are more SEC fans now. It’s comical how that has transferred over to basketball from football. They are the new Vanderbilt, without the smarts though.Dude you guys can get 20. As long as we continue to dominate the tourney and win it all or make the FF or elite 8, yall can continue to show the overhype associated with a conference regular season record. Strange, since when is the journey more important than the actually end goal? A famous football coach, that's something you should be familiar with, well at least from the fact that lesser SEC football programs get to chant SEC, SEC... I digress. A famous football coach once stated, "That's why you play the game!!!". The season is played to get to those chips. That is why you brought up UK's 8 chips right? Low hanging fruit.
So you're an ACC dick rider. I thought that was only SEC fans. I could have sworn I read that somewhere.If they are going to thump their chest about a single season of regular season basketball success, they may want to brush up on that 1-3 year history. 3 years removed from 2 ACC teams playing in the Final Four... one in the championship. 1 season away from 1 ACC team playing in the Final Four. And that was after another team played in the FF the season before. 5 years away from an ACC team winning it all. And yet that 3-year scope is not that flattering for the SEC. Just saying.
Nope, just pointing out that when you're the leader in all-time wins and got 8 titles to boot, conference strength is irrelevan
Nah, I am a truth teller. All of the information pertained to the tourney and why the ACC dominates all other conference success regardless of conference strength and number of teams invited to dance. If that's dick riding so be it. Still doesn't negate the facts.So you're an ACC dick rider. I thought that was only SEC fans. I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
@rockycard @GhostOf301
BTW, you missed my point completely. NVM.
Winning is always a good thing; however, that has nothing to do with this so-called discussion. I am sorry facts got in your way. Just as a refresher, the topic was regular season conference success vs conference success in the tournament. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to move the goal post again. Enjoy the SEC regular season success. Let's see if inviting 14 teams to the tourney will result in the same success that the ACC routinely display during this time. For you, SEC fan, there will not be any early exits like last season. Sorta like when lottery teams get all those ping pong balls and never get the #1 overall pick. Maybe that should be the goal. Getting more than a couple of teams beyond round 2.Never knew that winning a play-in game could make a fan so chesty.
So you're an ACC dick rider. I thought that was only SEC fans. I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
@rockycard @GhostOf301
BTW, you missed my point completely. NVM.
SEC fans are known for bandwagon. A little surprised some UK fans using it.I'm surprised at some of the UK fans jumping on the conference bandwagon. Your history is good enough to where some of you don't need to do that but.
Now fans from teams that have no/little history I can see them doing that.
Do you work for the ACC? This is some high level damage control. After a year where the conference flat out sucked, you dredge up this stuff? If saying that the SEC was the best conference this year is conference honking, what do you call what you're doing?Winning is always a good thing; however, that has nothing to do with this so-called discussion. I am sorry facts got in your way. Just as a refresher, the topic was regular season conference success vs conference success in the tournament. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to move the goal post again. Enjoy the SEC regular season success. Let's see if inviting 14 teams to the tourney will result in the same success that the ACC routinely display during this time. For you, SEC fan, there will not be any early exits like last season. Sorta like when lottery teams get all those ping pong balls and never get the #1 overall pick. Maybe that should be the goal. Getting more than a couple of teams beyond round 2.
As I've already told the guy... when you're the program with the most wins to go along with 8 titles, I don't see where conference talk and how well they've fared in past NCAA tournaments is even relevant.I'm surprised at some of the UK fans jumping on the conference bandwagon. Your history is good enough to where some of you don't need to do that but.
Now fans from teams that have no/little history I can see them doing that.