For those old enough, who are the best players/athletes/etc., you've watched in the 80's in all sports?
NBA - Jordan
NFL - Payton
MLB - tough one. Wade Boggs 5x batting champ.
NHL - Gretzky
Boxing -Tyson
Track - Carl Lewis
Golf - Tom Watson
Tennis - Bjorn Borg
What am I missing?
I struggled with Jackson, he was dominate when he was healthy. Rice is a good one as well.I’d add Bo Jackson and Jerry Rice for the 80s as well. Barry Sanders was tale-end so I guess we’ll count him for the 90s.
I’m not even sure he was a top 100 OF of the 1980’s. He was more Nick Esasky than he was Rickey Henderson. Even in his best season (1989) he wasn’t elite. Very solid and good but never an elite ball player.Bo Jackson has to be near, or at the top. Arguably the best player in both sports he played.
I’m not even sure he was a top 100 OF of the 1980’s. He was more Nick Esasky than he was Rickey Henderson. Even in his best season (1989) he wasn’t elite. Very solid and good but never an elite ball player.
He should have stuck to football year round.
Ricky Henderson > Vince Coleman.Ok, you're right. I should have checked the #s first. In 1989 he hit around 250( respectable), hit 32 HR (very respectable), and stole almost 30 bases (ok). No where near Henderson, but not far off either. According to baseball reference, Rickey never hit 32 HR, which surprised me. Rickey, a few times hit over 300... and stole over 100 bases 3 times.
Ricky Henderson > Vince Coleman.
He was pretty far off. Rickey Henderson is a borderline top 25 player of all time. His average OPS and WAR per year are better than Bo Jackson’s best seasons. His career OBP is nearly 100 points higher as well. And this is even including Henderson’s last 8 year or so where he was a shell of himself.Ok, you're right. I should have checked the #s first. In 1989 he hit around 250( respectable), hit 32 HR (very respectable), and stole almost 30 bases (ok). No where near Henderson, but not far off either. According to baseball reference, Rickey never hit 32 HR, which surprised me. Rickey, a few times hit over 300... and stole over 100 bases 3 times.
Bird, the white guy from Indiana, and Magic, the black guy from Michigan. They saved the nba.NBA - Jordan
NFL - Payton
MLB - tough one. Wade Boggs 5x batting champ.
NHL - Gretzky
Boxing -Tyson
Track - Carl Lewis
Golf - Tom Watson
Tennis - Bjorn Borg
What am I missing?
Laughing Sorry, but I love you had to include their race.Bird, the white guy from Indiana, and Magic, the black guy from Michigan. They saved the nba.
also, Keith Jackson as an announcer.
"First and goal to go" will forever be branded in my mind.
Yeah I know, but they both went where they were perfect fits too.Laughing Sorry, but I love you had to include their race.
Bird and Magic would have sufficed. I understand your point, but still funny to read.
Anyway both were great. and Jordan only played half the decade.
Also, just the game itself was better in the late 80s and 90s. Much less stoppages, you could actually hit the quarterback and receivers, and guys could celebrate and have fun. Much better product.
He was pretty far off. Rickey Henderson is a borderline top 25 player of all time. His average OPS and WAR per year are better than Bo Jackson’s best seasons. His career OBP is nearly 100 points higher as well. And this is even including Henderson’s last 8 year or so where he was a shell of himself.
Jackson was solid but he struck out a ton, was a defensive liability and wasn’t very good at getting on base. And when he did get on base he wasn’t a great base runner. He was fast but he got picked off often and thrown out on steal attempts more than what’s acceptable for a guy like him. If he gave the sport 100% his ceiling was as good as anybody’s but you can say the same about his football career.
Bo Jackson is one of those things where the legend and stories make him out to be greater than anything we actually witnessed.
I forgot about Brett. Dude had a fire and was as intense as anyone.Thanks. Great points. I take it you're a Royals fan? George Brett was on Rickeys level... not the same type of hitter, but both are legends of the game.
I’m definitely a Texas Rangers fan over the Royals. It doesn’t always work that way though. I like the Chiefs over the Cowboys. I’d probably rank my pro teams like this;Thanks. Great points. I take it you're a Royals fan? George Brett was on Rickeys level... not the same type of hitter, but both are legends of the game.
I forgot about Brett. Dude had a fire and was as intense as anyone.
Also, Tony Gwynn needs to be mentioned.
I can't find it now, but just the other day I saw a video of how rough the NBA was in the 80's.
Reminds me of Darryl Strawberry.Eric Davis was a beast and then he wasnt. When he was on for that period holy crap was he awesome.
Disagree. He's the only player, in baseball/football, to be named an All-star. If not for the hip injury, that dude may have ended up in the HOF in one of the sports---If not both. Before his injury, his baseball career was starting to take off. From 1987-90, he hit 105 HR's, with 300 RBI's, while improving his BA every year: 1987 he hit .235. In 1990, his last injury free year, he hit .272. He was an All-Star in 1989, and should have been one again in 1990. Then the hip injury, and was down hill after that.Bo Jackson is one of those things where the legend and stories make him out to be greater than anything we actually witnessed.
He was a monster. From 1986-1990, he averaged 30 HR's and 40 SB. Injuries again derailed what probably would have easily been a HOF career. I mean, in 1987, he hit 37 HR's, and stole 50 bases....Eric Davis was a beast and then he wasnt. When he was on for that period holy crap was he awesome.
He did some great things, no doubt. But he wasn’t going to be a HOF baseball player. He was maybe a top 50 player at his peak. He should of stuck to football. I’m glad he didn’t though.Disagree. He's the only player, in baseball/football, to be named an All-star. If not for the hip injury, that dude may have ended up in the HOF in one of the sports---If not both. Before his injury, his baseball career was starting to take off. From 1987-90, he hit 105 HR's, with 300 RBI's, while improving his BA every year: 1987 he hit .235. In 1990, his last injury free year, he hit .272. He was an All-Star in 1989, and should have been one again in 1990. Then the hip injury, and was down hill after that.
As for football? I mean, he joins the Raiders in Week 8 of the 1987 season, and proceeds to rush for 554 yards, in 7 games---AFTER playing an entire baseball season. THink about that. He plays 120 MLB games. Reports to the Raiders in Week 8---Then rushes for 554 yards, over 7 games, on just 81 attempts. An average of damn near 7 yards per carry. Thats stupid. I mean, who does that? Now, again, same as baseball---he's starting to come into his own. In 1989, he rushes for 950 yards----in just 10 games. Then, in 1990, his only Pro-Bowl season, he gets hurt. Had rushed for 700 yards.
We didn't miss anything, as fans. We just didn't get to see enough. He didn't just play two sports, he was among the best of those two sports. To play 120 baseball games, then go join an NFL team 8 weeks into their season, and rush for almost 600 yards, is ****ing insane.
IMO, Bo Jackson might possibly be the best athlete I've ever seen. ANd had the hip injury never occurred, it would have fun seeing what he would have done.
I can agree that the HOF is probably a stretch. But even then, when healthy, he was among baseball's best.He did some great things, no doubt. But he wasn’t going to be a HOF baseball player. He was maybe a top 50 player at his peak. He should of stuck to football. I’m glad he didn’t though.
Yes. I just had a flood of memories when reading this.IMO, the 1980's was the best decade ever, for sports.
In the 70's, the NBA was failing. Public interest was minimal. Then----Well these two dudes come along: Magic and Bird. The rest is history. They were then followed by some other dude named "Jordan". NBA has been a monster ever since.
NFL was marred by two strikes. Then Joe Montana and the 49ers arrive. 49er/Cowboy playoff battles were epic, i.e. "The Catch".
NHL was meh. Then some teenage dude came along---Wayne Gretzky, and forever changed the sport.
Baseball in the 80's was marred by a coacaine scandal, Pete Rose banishment, missed called in the 1985 WS, and the earthquake on the 89 series. But, as in the other above mentioned sports, young stars came to the rescue. Dudes like Griffey, Jr, McGwire, Bonds, etc, etc.. Along with some unforgettable postseason moments: Kirk Gibson HR is the standout moment. Nine different teams won a WS. After being dominated by the likes of the Reds, Yankees, Dodgers, etc, etc...baseball began finding greater life, with the balance of other teams.
March Madness as we know it today, is the "child" of 1980's CBB. We had NC State's mighty upset of Houston....Villanova beating Georgetown. Cinderella was born. And thus, so was March Madness.
The 1980's , IMO, was the platform of what we see today.
NBA - Jordan
NFL - Payton
MLB - tough one. Wade Boggs 5x batting champ.
NHL - Gretzky
Boxing -Tyson
Track - Carl Lewis
Golf - Tom Watson
Tennis - Bjorn Borg
What am I missing?
I keep reading Montana, and I let it go, but Payton was the best of the 80's.You can argue Tony Gwynn in MLB but there's a lot of them to be considered. NFL I think I would go with Joe Montana.