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Wow, UT is full of racist trash

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I remember him trolling me on the mainboard probably 7-8 years ago. I didn't really post much until maybe like 2013? I think I still had less than 1000 posts total my first 6 years on Rivals.
That is nothing, years ago when Rivals had "fan pages" Hawkit was being messed with by another poster and he assumed it was me. I had never done anything to him, I still have no idea why he assumed it was me. So, he hit me up on my fan page and wanted me to apologize. I had no idea what he was talking about and when I asked him, he refused to tell me, but then he threatened me (going to get me). He started trolling my every post.

Hawkit gets obsessive about this interwebz.
 
Oh, the outrage.

I despise what he did, but what ever happened to free speech? He didn't infringe on anyone's rights. Don't infringe on his.
It’s mind boggling that people struggle so much with understanding the 1st Amendment.

If the government isn’t involved, it’s not a 1st Amendment issue
 
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I’m ****ing offended bro. o_O
Nothing should offend you. You are still proudly supporting a school that provided prostitutes to 16 year old recruits and paying recruits while on probation with the NCAA.
 
Nothing should offend you. You are still proudly supporting a school that provided prostitutes to 16 year old recruits and paying recruits while on probation with the NCAA.
**** yeah I am! Will support my Alma mater until the day I die. You still strokin’ dongs? Do your thing playboi!
 
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Comeback? Was just giving you props for you being you. Tough to find an honest poster..that happens to stroke dongs. Do you, brother!
I don't stroke dongs or provide prostitutes for 16 year olds. You can find that in your hometown of Louisville.
 
I don't stroke dongs or provide prostitutes for 16 year olds. You can find that in your hometown of Louisville.
So if I fly into Louisville tomorrow, I’m gonna have to steer clear of all the hookers lining the streets, and you stroking and patting shafts? Thanks for the word of advice. You know kl, honesty and wisdom is your forte. Kudos.
 
It’s mind boggling that people struggle so much with understanding the 1st Amendment.

If the government isn’t involved, it’s not a 1st Amendment issue

Yes. A thousand times yes. That bothers me like when someone talks about freedom of speech on a message board. Uh, no... Internet forums are privately owned and monitored, and the owners can enforce whatever rules they want.
 
It’s mind boggling that people struggle so much with understanding the 1st Amendment.

If the government isn’t involved, it’s not a 1st Amendment issue

Yes. A thousand times yes. That bothers me like when someone talks about freedom of speech on a message board. Uh, no... Internet forums are privately owned and monitored, and the owners can enforce whatever rules they want.

The University of Tennessee is not privately owned. They shouldn't be able to kick him out of school over this, yet that's what people are hoping for.
 
The University of Tennessee is not privately owned. They shouldn't be able to kick him out of school over this, yet that's what people are hoping for.
If that's what the people in charge of whether he gets to remain in school there are trying to do, I'm w/ you, but if you're talking about what offended people are seeking, you're focusing on the wrong thing. The offense is valid.
 
If that's what the people in charge of whether he gets to remain in school there are trying to do, I'm w/ you, but if you're talking about what offended people are seeking, you're focusing on the wrong thing. The offense is valid.

So we should pressure the administration to kick him out, but the administration shouldn't be allowed to kick him out?
 
The University of Tennessee is not privately owned. They shouldn't be able to kick him out of school over this, yet that's what people are hoping for.
Doesn’t matter. It’s still not a 1A issue. UT receives some public funding...but it also receives private funding and charges tuition. The government does not call the shots for UT.

Every university has a student conduct policy, and can boot any student that violates it. The government has nothing to do with it. Ergo, not a 1A infringement.
 
So if I fly into Louisville tomorrow, I’m gonna have to steer clear of all the hookers lining the streets, and you stroking and patting shafts? Thanks for the word of advice. You know kl, honesty and wisdom is your forte. Kudos.
Thanks for your support.
 
Doesn’t matter. It’s still not a 1A issue. UT receives some public funding...but it also receives private funding and charges tuition. The government does not call the shots for UT.

Every university has a student conduct policy, and can boot any student that violates it. The government has nothing to do with it. Ergo, not a 1A infringement.

Who brought up the first amendment? Not me.
 
Let’s hang them. Being labeled a racist seems worse than being a pedophile to some people. Free speech covers things we like and dislike.
 
Who brought up the first amendment? Not me.
When people bring up ‘freedom of speech’, like you did, they are referring to the 1st amendment rights.

The misconception is the 1A protects individuals from society. It doesn’t. You can’t just say and do whatever you want free of reprecussion. ‘Free speech’ only applies to the government, not other people, institutions, etc.
 
I am not sure this case is a matter of free speech, regardless of the misconceptions surrounding the 1st amendment.

The kids were not representing the university when they posted the picture and the caption. So I am not sure what they are expected to do about it. But should they expel them, it would obviously go to court. The university would argue that the students are detrimental to the university's ultimate goal of diversity and equality. The students would argue that their actions were in no way intended to represent the university and that by expelling them, the university to measures to restrict or suppress their freedom of expression. In this scenario, the 1st amendment would come into play because it doesn't only protect you from criminal prosecution, but civil cases as well. It's a stretch, but it could lead to that.
 
Doesn’t matter. It’s still not a 1A issue. UT receives some public funding...but it also receives private funding and charges tuition. The government does not call the shots for UT.

Every university has a student conduct policy, and can boot any student that violates it. The government has nothing to do with it. Ergo, not a 1A infringement.

IDK, universities were forced to change mascots, due to racism.... Sensitive area and you don't know what organization may target you. It may not be illegal but it goes a long in sensitive areas in this country these days.
 
When people bring up ‘freedom of speech’, like you did, they are referring to the 1st amendment rights.

The misconception is the 1A protects individuals from society. It doesn’t. You can’t just say and do whatever you want free of reprecussion. ‘Free speech’ only applies to the government, not other people, institutions, etc.

Nope. Two separate concepts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

"Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction."
 
So we should pressure the administration to kick him out, but the administration shouldn't be allowed to kick him out?
The administration is either allowed to kick him out or not, so what you said is really only relevant where they are not allowed to (but might try).

I don't think there was anything confusing about what I said; you just might not be secure enough to handle something that could be interpreted as correction. The reaction to a justifiable offense shouldn't become the focus so much that the justifiable offense is ignored.
 
The administration is either allowed to kick him out or not, so what you said is really only relevant where they are not allowed to (but might try).

I don't think there was anything confusing about what I said; you just might not be secure enough to handle something that could be interpreted as correction. The reaction to a justifiable offense shouldn't become the focus so much that the justifiable offense is ignored.

Great as always, Datt. Idk why I bother with you.
 
Let’s hang them. Being labeled a racist seems worse than being a pedophile to some people. Free speech covers things we like and dislike.
Being a racist seems more acceptable than trying to do something about racism to some people.
Free speech covers speech within certain contexts. It is not a form of diplomatic immunity from any and all consequences.
 
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That is nothing, years ago when Rivals had "fan pages" Hawkit was being messed with by another poster and he assumed it was me. I had never done anything to him, I still have no idea why he assumed it was me. So, he hit me up on my fan page and wanted me to apologize. I had no idea what he was talking about and when I asked him, he refused to tell me, but then he threatened me (going to get me). He started trolling my every post.

Hawkit gets obsessive about this interwebz.


You still owe me an apology for 1 starring all my threads because you are jealous of me.
 
You still owe me an apology for 1 starring all my threads because you are jealous of me.
hawkit, of all the things you have to worry about, someone being jealous of you is not one of them.
 
hawkit, of all the things you have to worry about, someone being jealous of you is not one of them.


Why do you assume I worry about things? And you know its true. I was stealing your thunder, along with many others. And you couldn't take it.
 
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