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It is kind of crazy to think that I’m closer to 60 right now than I am to my senior year of high school.
Who is the best CBB HC coach at recruiting?
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It is kind of crazy to think that I’m closer to 60 right now than I am to my senior year of high school.
It's all good if you live like you're 29 and have the humor of a 12 year old.
After watching KU/KSU part 1 tonight, my vote goes to Bruce Weber.....LOL!!! Truth be told he did out-coach Self tonight.
So, the goal of recruiting and basis for evaluating success is how many players play in the NBA? Shouldn't some criteria be, you know, who wins and develops players that win for their program not just the pros. Just a different perspective I guess.
No, what I'm saying in answering the original question is that the 'best recruiter' title should probably go to the guy with the most players in the NBA as those players are usually the most talented...either naturally or developed when they were in college.
I understand what you are saying. Again, I think the difference in our opinion is if the goal of the institution is to win, then clearly the Coach has recruited the "best" players for his/their need. Of course, they all want to win, but who actually does? So in addition to the pipeline, I believe success in winning is not only part of x's and o's but identifying and recruiting the right players for your system. Cal and K and to some extent Self are awesome at that 5* recruiting and you certainly can't argue with their results, but guys like Bennett, Beilein and Wright do extremely well within their respective system(s).
So you think the answer to who is best at recruiting should include a component for who is best at developing players regardless of how sought after those players were before arriving on campus (i.e. recruiting)?
While just counting the # of players in the NBA has its flaws, it's at least attempting to answer the question. Or, put another way:
I’m 30 with 12 years experience. Does that mean I’m old? lol
My next milestone is the 55+ menu at Denny's...Yea, just turned 26. No more fun birthdays leftbut hey, that car insurance rate reduction. That was sweet.
very few schools can compare apples to apples
a great recruiter is a coach that brings in the best talent that he can get at the given school he is at
Very good statement. An example is a guy like Rick Stansbury. Dude gets some insane talent... Another example are places like Bellarmine College in Louisville. Davenport and his staff get some really, really good players.
I'd say guys coaching at the likes of a Butler, etc, etc....are just as good at recruting as the Cals', "K",etc, etc....After all, they are selling a far less inferior product---and hauling in some good talent.
I tend to agree. Cal & K have certainly brought in their share of stars, but Jay Wright has done very well with "less" talent recently. I think the true way to judge Best Recruiter is who does more with less. I might even throw Roy in there because he keeps his guys he recruited.
That is the player bert obsesses over. But it still doesn't tell me who paid a player $100,000 in jewelry to play for them.
Where did he get $30,000 to make a down payment while he was still at Duke? They ever figure that out?
Not sure. Guess Duke does it the right way. STFU and move on.
Would hate to see how much they pay good players if Lance got that kind of money.
I just read the ESPN article on this story since I completely forgot about it.
Sounds like Duke got lucky. Not North Carolina lucky, but lucky nonetheless.
Ever since you posted this, I had a song stuck in my head, finally figured out what it was.
and yes, I love the alka seltzer.
Seems to be doing just fine so far. Capel was not at the lead with every major Duke recruit while in Durham. He was on many but you are selling K's influence way short in Duke recruiting.
Thomas at Duke.
The jewelry.
Cover it as you please but few kids whose mom's work on the assembly line at Ford motor company can afford expensive jewelry with value approaching $100,000. I made a lot of money when my son was going to college. The only jewelry he ever bought was his graduation ring.
It is only speculation as to where Thomas got $30,000. Does it raise eyebrows? Yeah. But who is to say that it had anything to do with Duke? If it were a player like Jay Williams or Elton Brand, it would be a hell of a lot more interesting, but Lance Thomas? Not buying it . Not saying that where he got the money was clean or it wasn't. Just that I can't see a program like Duke giving a kid like Thomas that kind of money. If they did, like I said earlier, I would hate to see what they are paying big time players.
Duke did not give Thomas one dime outside the NCAA rules. But the guys at Duke who pull the levers made damned sure that the law suit was settled in record time.
But come on; college kids don't have access to $30,000 or $100,000.
When I was in college I got $5.00 a week. If I had a date I had to call my father and get a loan. Of course I did not go to Duke.
What was it like to go on a date in college before the invention of the car or the movie theater?
Bert. Duke was never mentioned in the lawsuit. Thomas paid the debt off and the lawsuit was dropped. I know that Thomas wasn't making Lebron coin at the time (or now) but he was making plenty of money to pay off a $68,000 PERSONAL debt. Just face it, it was never anything close to what you have been whining about for the 7 years that it has been. Anything involving Duke was just speculation and if you use common sense, you would question why Duke would risk their integrity for an average college basketball player.
They certainly seemed to put their 'integrity' at risk in the matters of:
- Maggette
- Duhon's Mom
- Boozer's Dad
Couldn't you also say that common sense tells you that he likely got $30,000 for a down payment from a booster related to the program? I mean that makes more sense than using common sense to question why Duke would pay money to an average basketball player. Both are illegal under the NCAA guidelines and would lead to the games being revoked that he played in after taking a loan. If that's what he did of course but we'll never know.
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Great dates back then.
You drive the buggy out about five miles.
Turn the horse around.
Get in the back seat and you don't have a thing to worry about; because the "horse knows the way home". SmokinSmile
I can't take credit for that. That came from my father, Edd Higginbotham (1902-1975), who was born before Ford made the cheap cars.
I call BS.
I was worth ten times what Thomas' folks were worth and if my kid spent $500 on jewelry shit he would have been back home and never allowed to go back to college on my dime.
Kentucky got 3 years probation for $1,000 alleged to have been sent by Emory Airfreight.
BS, BS, BS, BS........................!
Hell no we will never know because the corrupt NCAA swept it under the rug just like the academic crap at North Carolina.
UK got 3 years probation over an alleged $1,000.
Holy Shit.
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