USA loses to France in FIBA Quarterfinals

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  1. hailtoyourvictor

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    “Were they really on the decline?”

    Um, yes.
     
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    @dukedevilz

    I think it makes sense to look at the year after each of the Olympics too considering the Olympics were sandwiched between two seasons. The first half of the following season was closer to the Olympics that the first half of the preceding season.

    Charles Barkley average PER over peak 5 seasons: 27.3
    PER by year
    1994/95: 25.2
    1995/96: 24.8
    1996 Summer Olympics
    1996/97: 23.0

    Certainly on the decline for those Olympics.


    Hakeem Olajuwon average PER over peak 5 seasons: 25.86
    PER by year
    1994/95: 26.0
    1995/96: 25.5
    1996 Summer Olympics
    1996/97: 22.7

    Certainly on the decline for those Olympics.


    Kobe Bryant average PER over peak 5 seasons: 25.84
    PER by year
    2010/11: 23.9
    2011/12: 21.9
    2012 Summer Olympics
    2012/13: 23.0

    Certainly on the decline for those Olympics.



    I will give you Stockton and Malone, but you've got to agree that Barkley and Olajuwon were on the decline. (Kobe obviously was too). It's pretty clear cut to me so please don't try to argue with that take like we both know you could and let's move on.
     
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    Let's move on? Why did you even bring this up to begin with? Sounds like you're arguing just for the sake of arguing. Do you think 2012 was a better team? Like I said, sure 1996 may not have been the best year, or even the second best year for many of those older guys. But the '96 team was absolutely full of superstars. All 12 of them. Even if we say Olajuwon and Barkley were on the decline a bit, I would note that they both ranked in the top 20 all-time by both SLAM and ESPN. Are you ready to suggest the 1996 version of Barkley and Olajuwon would drop out of the top 50? The 96 team had 8 guys in the top 50. They have a more complete roster. That's my point.

    And FWIW, the 96 Olympics weren't a true sandwich like the 2018 FIBA World Cup. The first game in 96 began in July; training camp began in June. Malone, Stockton, Barkley and Olajuwon were ending their seasons in May. Essentially a continuation of the 96 season.
     

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