Trae Young vs Oklahoma State
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trae young is not the best player in the nation and he shouldn't be NPOY (though he likely will be). his numbers are sexy, but i assume there is a certain number of guards with comparable skill, who if given the same set of circumstances, could be every bit the stat stuffer. one really has to look no further than a certain guard playing in the same conference...devonte graham. also, this OU basketball team has early march exit written all over it.
I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me either. I appreciate the unselfishness that Bagley plays with and the quality defense he plays. Trae Young is one hell of a ballplayer though. It is what it is.
People who vote for bagley shouldn't be allowed to vote? Good to know.
You're right. Right now Bagley's numbers are being watered down due to Young. I guess it's going to depend a lot of how the two teams finish.
Graham shoots better from 3, better from ft line, averages 2.5 less assists and 6 less turnovers, more steals, plays better defense, and in conference play 10 less points.
If he took 38 shots he would get 30/game as well but. Oh and he closes games well and his team wins tight games. Young loses tight games.
Give me graham any day of the week, I’d bet Young’s teammates would agree.
When did this become about who is better? The question was who makes the team better. I won’t argue Graham is winning 1v1. We are talking about making the team better. I think young is one helluva talent, but to watch his games and not coming away thinking he is anything but selfish is asinine.
He would be 3rd or 4th on my POY list.
His team had 3 assists outside of young. I’d say some more ball movement wouldn’t be a bad thing.
Young 38 shots
Rest of team 43 shots.
Young 38 shots
Rest of team 43 shots.
That's just it, OSU isn't a really bad team.
KP Top 75 last I remember, at home, rivalry..
But there were most def some ugly, ugly shots.
He's an incredible player, his turnovers are alarming however. Imo, it's more the Big XII's just grinding him up. Level of competition and importance goes up a bit, pressure..
QUOTE: His team had 3 assists outside of young. I’d say some more ball movement wouldn’t be a bad thing.
Young 38 shots
Rest of team 43 shots.
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It is almost as if you have no analyitical skills. He either makes a play happen or not. The team is unable to make a play without him. Or better said, is not allowed to. That is on Krueger. And also why they are 2 games back looking up.
Theyre 2 games back because their defense is atrocious.
Their offense is top 15 in the nation, that is not the problem.
Oklahoma scored over a point per possession again yesterday. Its their defense that failed them again yesterday.
Have you ever seen what happens when Trae Young comes off the floor in an Oklahoma game? Oklahoma is incapable of even getting good looks because theyre so devoid of offensive talent.
But yes, the guy who made 6 threes in a row in the second half to bring them all the way back from a double digit deficit and take a 3 point lead with 10 seconds remaining is the problem, not the fact that they couldnt stop Oklahoma State from scoring. "Its like you have no analytical ability whatsoever."
Graham would not make Oklahoma better. Regardless of any numbers, that's a little absurd.
Young, however, is a little overrated. A lot of players could put up big scoring figures with that many shots, as well as fewer turnovers. And better D. He may be worthy of NPOY, but he's not the second coming as many make him out to be.
Young, however, is a little overrated. A lot of players could put up big scoring figures with that many shots, as well as fewer turnovers. And better D. He may be worthy of NPOY, but he's not the second coming as many make him out to be.
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