Tell Me Why Duke Should Be Ranked Ahead of Gonzaga
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Arguing who’s #1 in late January is crazy. I would say act like you been there before but the fans pushing this haven’t so it’s a big deal to them. Also win your last 6 games. Easy to say, hard to do.
For the love of God, please reward Tennessee with the #1 ranking. Are they related to a Michigan poster?
agreed, they're starting to make rooting for Tennessee very difficult.
They all seem way too angry and have too many chips on their shoulder for a bunch of fans supporting a team having an a amazing 2 year run.
Yeah, it's a really sad day when I feel like rooting for Kentucky over Tennessee.
It’s January. I’ll actually pay attention in March. Don’t click on this if you’re sensitive or at work
Good, good. Submit to the temptations. You'll be a better man for it.
Seriously. They were easily my favorite SEC team, and now I root against them every chance I get.
But duke beat UVA head to head without the most important starter... lol your entire post now makes no sense
Seriously, you're still pissed that someone preferred results to mathematical formulas for determining ranking that much?
I only got after you when you chose to take the argument from the sport to making it about me.
You are a knowledgeable fan and generally agreeable poster, you are better than this.
If you can’t answer the question, that’s fine. Just say it.
I’m comparing Duke and Gonzaga. So far I’ve heard:
“I’m rooting for Tennessee to lose now”
-and
“”But Duke beat Virginia”
Gonzaga has played three games against top 12 opponents. They’ve won one of those.
Duke has played six games against top 13 opponents. They’ve won five of them.
Overall Gonzaga’s strength of schedule is somewhere in the hundreds, per KenPom.
Duke’s is around 40something.
Sure, Gonzaga has the head to head, by a bucket. But otherwise there’s no real reason to pick Gonzaga ahead of Duke, unless you are one of those people who don’t know a ton about basketball and think that a game time loss of both your PG and best three point shooter isn’t a good reason to lose to a top 45ish basketball team with a fairly unique defense.
Duke has played six games against top 13 opponents. They’ve won five of them.
Overall Gonzaga’s strength of schedule is somewhere in the hundreds, per KenPom.
Duke’s is around 40something.
Sure, Gonzaga has the head to head, by a bucket. But otherwise there’s no real reason to pick Gonzaga ahead of Duke, unless you are one of those people who don’t know a ton about basketball and think that a game time loss of both your PG and best three point shooter isn’t a good reason to lose to a top 45ish basketball team with a fairly unique defense.
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You forgot the /s to indicate sarcasm. Or you're not bright. Either way, post fail.
If you've been paying attention the last few days, you'd know this was sarcasm. Try to keep up.
The conference is actually way better this year than it normally is. WCC went 10-7 against the Pac-12 this year (with only one winning coming from Gonzaga). Saint Mary's and San Francisco are both in the KenPom top 50. And the WCC is ranked 9th in the conference rpi ratings. Which isn't great, I'll admit. Gonzaga has to be super impressive in order to merit a 2 seed or higher. But I'll concede that the conference schedule is actually more difficult this year than it has been in years past.
What hurts Gonzaga the most, in my opinion, is they don't have that many quality non-conference wins. Duke, yes, of course. But after that, you're looking at Washington (#47), Arizona (#51), and Creighton (#54). Saint Mary's is #33 and San Francisco is #43 - so with 5 wins over those two teams (counting the WCC Tourney), they're kind of getting more help from playing conference foes.... they also beat Texas A&M and Illinois, but this year those are essentially wins over mid-majors.
Yes, I agree the Pac-12 is awful. But the WCC, a good mid-major at best, should never be 10-7 verse the Pac-12. The Pac-12 still has 8 teams in the top 100, FWIW.
I still pull for Tennessee to win the SEC, would love for them to make F4/championship(As long as it's not at the expense of Duke). Would like for the Vols fans to stay around whenever they are not a top team too. More team variety is a good thing for the board.
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