Shooting 43.6% from three at the volume he shoots is absurd.
Steph Curry is the best shooter in NBA history
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If they moved the line back, his numbers probably wouldn't be affected either.
Careful. Don’t want to upset the true basketball purists on this board.
They’d insist that if Steph played in 80’s or 90’s, he wouldn’t be able to get a shot off.
That little twig would suffer a career ending injury 5 games into his rookie season when he tried to go for a layup.
You go in the lane.
Sharks in the lane.
Big sharks.
Mean sharks.
Farewell and adieu...
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Agreed, he is the best shooter, all the old heads need to hop off their Windows '95 and open their eyes up. LeBron is probably going down as the GOAT, and Steph is a once in a half century type shooter. Unreal.
Come at me Bert.
Come at me Bert.
Was gonna say Alen's in the discussion. Not on the level of overall excellence as those 2, but Korver is up there, too
This actually surprised me, but unreal how close he is to Curry in Volume and %..
Korver - 3.4 -7.7 per game for .444
Curry - 3.4 - 7.8 per game for .436
Curry, obviously, can get his own shot while Korver is all about going around screens for a pass
Lebron biggest argument over Jordan is due to his longevity. Jordan at his best in the late 80's-early 90's was better than Lebron. But Lebron has stayed at his peak level longer. It's similar thought process on why a guy like Karl Malone I think gets a boost in greatness than he really is since he played for so long and didn't miss many games.
He couldn’t get his own shot like Curry can. He was much more catch and shoot. Curry is the ultimate shot creating machine, and oh yea, he can make some long shots too
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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That and LeBron is just more dominant in my opinion, bigger, stronger, plays both sides of the ball well, and controls every facet of the game. LeBron is also a way better passer than Jordan. This is coming from a guy born in the early 80s, basically worshipping Jordan when he played for the Bulls.
Offensive friendly basketball present vs defensive friendly basketball old.
It’s hard to compare eras usually because of the athetlic difference but in basketball the game has changed so much in the past few years to give offense the advantage but as far as the flick of the wrist I don’t know how you can definitively say anyone has ever done it better
It’s hard to compare eras usually because of the athetlic difference but in basketball the game has changed so much in the past few years to give offense the advantage but as far as the flick of the wrist I don’t know how you can definitively say anyone has ever done it better
Shaq was more physically dominant than Jordan so was Wilt. Doesn't mean they were better. I actually think that Lebron being this essentially "genetic anomaly" hurts his argument. Lebron has been sold as the greatest thing ever since he was a freshmen in HS. Jordan was nobody until his Sr year of HS and was never the no doubt physical prodigy Lebron was gifted with being.
Yes Lebron is a better passer but it's more of a focal point of his game than it was for Jordan. But Lebron wasn't so significantly better than Jordan at that. People act like Lebron is a passer like Magic when he just isn't to that level. Jordan was a better scorer and a better defender. Yes Lebron can guard PF's and C's better because of his size. But at guarding the perimeter Jordan was a better defender. Plus the 9 time 1st team all defense awards vs only 5 for Lebron says a lot. Also despite the size difference I am not convinced Lebron was as strong as Jordan was physically. Jordan in his prime was also a much quicker player and to me had the greatest first step in NBA history.
As a player Jordan's 7 year run from 86-87 thru 92-93 seasons he was the better player compared to any 7 year stretch from Lebron. The 1 year Jordan was able to essentially play PG like Lebron in 88-89 he was 32.5 PPG , 8RPG , 8 APG , 3 SPG , and shot 54% from the field for a 6'6" 200 lb perimeter guy that wasn't a great long range shooter. Not a 6'8" 250+lb perimeter player. But after baseball Jordan had to adapt his game to help with his longevity. Lebron generally hasn't had to change his game too terribly much because of his natural physicality. Though I think Lebron is more big and athletic than he is strong/powerful. Other guys in the NBA stronger than Lebron now. Honestly have wondered why Lebron has not averaged more rebounds over his career considering his size advantage he typically has over his positional opposition.
Agree with a good deal of what you say. Starting with your last comment, I think you've made this comment many times. could it be because he also plays with a PF and center who are often bigger and also have the job to get rebounds, while Lebron might leak out to start a break?
You want to take away from his passing because a bigger part of his game, but how about take away Jordan's scoring as he shot a lot more? after all, Lebron did lead him in nearly every shooting metric other than FTs, didn't he? Seems to reason if he shot more, he'd score more.
why would you think he is not on the level of Magic as a passer? The guy makes passes many could or would not make. Magic WAS the PG so seems obvious he'd get more assists per game. Lebron gets his assists and plays WITH a PG.
I always think this makes what Bron has done more impressive. Jordan was able to grow and develop, not only with a coaching icon like Dean, but also without the spotlight and pressure that was on Bron since he started playing high school ball. Not saying you're wrong, just that it kind of goes both ways on this one.
Going by memory, but I do seem to recall Allen being able to get his shot, going to the hoop, etc. Maybe not like Curry, but I wouldn't just label him a spot up shooter.
Yea I wouldn’t either. But compared to Steph, he’s much more catch and shoot.
Scoring is down from the 80's, on par with the early 90's, up from the late 90's.
Lebron is a PF in many incarnations of the NBA over time physically and athletically. Jordan has the #1 player efficiency rating for his career of all time. Lebron is #2 .2 behind Jordan. True shooting pct Lebron is .586 Jordan is .569. Both players get to the FT line at a similar rate despite different era's and Jordan hits there at 84% compared to 74% for Lebron. When the FT line is a big part of your game that difference matters.
Lebron has also always played with scoring/combo guard type PG's that essentially were the SG because their skill sets were more SG with PG size.
So because one and done wasn't a thing when he came up that is somehow Jordan's fault?
Also when you are told something is gonna be or suppose to be the greatest over a long period of time. The case for greatest should be clear cut imo.
What does OAD have to do w anything?
Seems to me that the case for MJ’s greatness over LBJ’s is far from clear cut.
I really don’t get either of your takes here. Sorry.
But the PGs he played with still seemed to go for 4-5 apg. Kyrie had the ball as much or more than Lebron, as well.
Might be the size of the PF, but often covers the SF or SG, taking him away from the basket. Not always, but that's probably why his rebounds have gone up.
Jordan could of been one and done or HS to pros had that been a truly feasible opportunity at the time he came up. Like it was in 2003 when Lebron was drafted. When MJ took the throne of GOAT there was a clear cut case , everyone could see it. With Lebron it's still debatable , so until Lebron makes it clear cut he is the GOAT..... It's still Jordan.
Really only been one guy compared to Lebron so far and that's Simmons at this point. He still has a ways to go too.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Rebounds have gone up because Lebron has matured physically over time. And been able to bang more as he has filled out his frame over the latter half of his career so far. 4-5 APG isn't anything special from a PG , those SG/SF type assist numbers.
Who said 4-5 apg was anything special? But it's not a small amount for the 2nd highest assist guy on the team and someone who has the ball a lot taking assist opportunities away from Lebron.
Let's all see how the rest of this post season and this next ECF series goes before we start prematurely anointing.
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