Ranking the conferences

[Kronic22]

1 ACC
2 B1G
3 BIG 12
4 SEC
5 BIG EAST
6 AAC


Computers have Big 12 one, and if we look at the average per team, it might be, but the ACC and big 10 have more national title contenders, so I gave them the nod.

Thoughts?

 

[DezyVol]

Depends. ACC and B1G are most top heavy. B12 and SEC have more parody (and are thus tougher to navigate throughout the season).

 

[WestTexasRaider]

Its parity. And I agree with you, the Big 12 is probably a little below the other two. I do think my Red Raiders are a little underrated by the rest of the country right now because we just have never been this good before, but you will know about us soon enough. This may be the year we beat Kansas for the conference title. I would say the Big 12 is at 3 at the moment. Could not forsee WV being a dumpster fire this year.

 

[GE Nole]

Depends. ACC and B1G are most top heavy. B12 and SEC have more parody (and are thus tougher to navigate throughout the season).

The ACC might be “top heavy” but we have so many teams in that top heavy section that it sort of renders your point about other conferences being tougher to navigate moot.

When there are 4 teams in the top 10 and 7 in the top 26 (on KenPom), I’d say the ACC is plenty dang tough to navigate. The Big 12 doesn’t have 7 teams in the top 50.

 

[pisgah101]

ACC




Everyone else

 

[jace4655555]

I haven't kept up with the other conferences, so not speaking on them. But, I'd be shocked if there's a better conference top to bottom than the BIG! 12 of the teams are in kenpoms top 60 with the remaining 2 in the top 110.

I believe, 9 of the 12 teams who are in the top 60 are actually all in the top 30. If another conference can match that...damn!

 

[sgrooms]

I haven't kept up with the other conferences, so not speaking on them. But, I'd be shocked if there's a better conference top to bottom than the BIG! 12 of the teams are in kenpoms top 60 with the remaining 2 in the top 110.

I believe, 9 of the 12 teams who are in the top 60 are actually all in the top 30. If another conference can match that...damn!

It just depends how werwe defining best conference. Personally, I don't look at how good the bottom of a conference is. If the goal is to get to the tournament and go as far as you can, I'd say that's our measurement. How many teams you get in the tournament, and how far those teams can go.

The ACC and B1G both have two top teams that look like title contenders. I think the ACC has more teams capable of making the Sweet 16 and Elite Eight.

 

[sdave]

Depends. ACC and B1G are most top heavy. B12 and SEC have more parody (and are thus tougher to navigate throughout the season).

The Big 12 and the SEC are definitely a parody..

 

[DezyVol]

The ACC might be “top heavy” but we have so many teams in that top heavy section that it sort of renders your point about other conferences being tougher to navigate moot.

When there are 4 teams in the top 10 and 7 in the top 26 (on KenPom), I’d say the ACC is plenty dang tough to navigate. The Big 12 doesn’t have 7 teams in the top 50.

I don’t disagree. Duke, UVA, UNC, VT and FSU are all capable of sweet 16 or better. Cuse, UL, and NCSt aren’t bad either. That’s why they’re the best conference. The bottom is really bad. BC, Wake, GT, and Canes are garbage.

Same with SEC, we just aren’t as good at the top, and maybe not as bad at the bottom. UT, UK, and Aub are all capable of Sweet 16 or better. Our worst teams are probably A&M, UGA, Arky, SC and Mizzou.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Depends. ACC and B1G are most top heavy. B12 and SEC have more parody (and are thus tougher to navigate throughout the season).

I wouldn't call the Big 10, "top heavy". After UM/MSU, you have 6 or 7 teams that are very equal, i.e. OSU, IU, Purdue, Wisky, NB, Iowa and Maryland.....maybe Minny. Northwestern, Rutgers, PSU to me are the "runts' of the litter. BUT....quite capable of beating you at their place.
No doubt UM/MSU have separated themselves. But to me, to call a conference top heavy insinuates 4 or more teams that are clearly better than the rest. IMO, thats not the case. Big 10 COULD get 8 bids or more. I'm thinking probably 7.

 

[IUfanBorden]

It just depends how werwe defining best conference. Personally, I don't look at how good the bottom of a conference is. If the goal is to get to the tournament and go as far as you can, I'd say that's our measurement. How many teams you get in the tournament, and how far those teams can go.

The ACC and B1G both have two top teams that look like title contenders. I think the ACC has more teams capable of making the Sweet 16 and Elite Eight.

Good post.. I see the ACC with two legit title contenders---Duke/UVA. Big with UM/MSU. And really, TBH, after that, I'm not sure either conference has teams that you could call definite SW 16 teams or better. Lot of good teams, for sure.

 

[sgrooms]

Good post.. I see the ACC with two legit title contenders---Duke/UVA. Big with UM/MSU. And really, TBH, after that, I'm not sure either conference has teams that you could call definite SW 16 teams or better. Lot of good teams, for sure.

Well, one of those title contenders from the ACC showed us no one is a definite S16 team.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Well, one of those title contenders from the ACC showed us no one is a definite S16 team.

Man I wish we were healthy.....I know it gets harped on. But damn.

 

[Afamu]

ACC







Everyone else. Big 10. Laughable.

 

[jhmossy]

Well, one of those title contenders from the ACC showed us no one is a definite S16 team.

I doubt many people would’ve considered us a title contender without Hunter last year.

Duke has lost in the first round as a title contender before as well unless you only consider 1-seeds to be title contenders.

Nobody is a definite anything in a single elimination format.

 

[bMORE607]

ACC







Everyone else. Big 10. Laughable.

What poor fanbase has to claim this loser?

 

[sgrooms]

I doubt many people would’ve considered us a title contender without Hunter last year.

Duke has lost in the first round as a title contender before as well unless you only consider 1-seeds to be title contenders.

Nobody is a definite anything in a single elimination format.

That was my point. Your team was just my example. Yes, there are other examples.

 

[DallasJayhawk]

Big 12 is the toughest conference, like most of the last 5 years. The round robin format is brutal, few care to understand the disadvantage it creates.

That being said
#1 B1G
#2 BIG12
#3 ACC
#4 SEC

 

[GE Nole]

I don’t disagree. Duke, UVA, UNC, VT and FSU are all capable of sweet 16 or better. Cuse, UL, and NCSt aren’t bad either. That’s why they’re the best conference. The bottom is really bad. BC, Wake, GT, and Canes are garbage.

Same with SEC, we just aren’t as good at the top, and maybe not as bad at the bottom. UT, UK, and Aub are all capable of Sweet 16 or better. Our worst teams are probably A&M, UGA, Arky, SC and Mizzou.

Well, GT won at Arky, at Cuse, (and also played Tennessee tough on the road), so I'm not sure "garbage" is the adjective I'd use to describe them. And BC hasn't been that bad either.

But yeah, Wake is awful.

 

[UL_1986]

ACC
BIG 12
BIG Ten
SEC
Big East

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Depends. ACC and B1G are most top heavy. B12 and SEC have more parody (and are thus tougher to navigate throughout the season).

as for the BT before the season started the experts were predicting 9 teams out of 14 to make the NCAAT. the BT has teams from top to bottom that can win @ home on any given day/night.

 

[BillDThrill]

SEC may have the best top with Tenn, Auburn, KY, and the Mississippi schools.

B1G is the deepest with 10 likely tourney teams.

ACC has the best Championship contenders in Duke and UVA.

Big12 is a watered down version of the B1G.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

SEC may have the best top with Tenn, Auburn, KY, and the Mississippi schools.

B1G is the deepest with 10 likely tourney teams.

ACC has the best Championship contenders in Duke and UVA.

Big12 is a watered down version of the B1G.

MSU and Michigan are the best options in the BT to win the National Championship, so lets not talk just about Duke or UVA. Michigan was just in the FF.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I just never get the "Big 12" being the toughest conference. I mean I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem anyone but Kansas ever does much in the NCAAT. Consistently at least.

 

[IUfanBorden]

SEC may have the best top with Tenn, Auburn, KY, and the Mississippi schools.

B1G is the deepest with 10 likely tourney teams.

ACC has the best Championship contenders in Duke and UVA.

Big12 is a watered down version of the B1G.

Meh.....Michigan and MSU are pretty damn good. I don't see that much separation. Not enough to where you call two teams "the best". Pretty even IMO.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Meh.....Michigan and MSU are pretty damn good. I don't see that much separation. Not enough to where you call two teams "the best". Pretty even IMO.

those 2 are more than capable of going to the FF and winning from the BT.

 

[BillDThrill]

Meh.....Michigan and MSU are pretty damn good. I don't see that much separation. Not enough to where you call two teams "the best". Pretty even IMO.

I’m a MSU fan. We own UVA. Don’t own Duke obviously. I like the B1G chances if MSU plays UVA and UM plays Duke in the F4

 

[dragonhawk1855]

the BT split with the ACC 7-7. so there was no real seperation. between the 2 conferences
right now its Michigan, MSU and Maryland at the top with teams 4-10 its a throw a name into a hat and pull them out for where they stand in the BT.

 

[IUfanBorden]

the BT split with the ACC 7-7. so there was no real seperation. between the 2 conferences
right now its Michigan, MSU and Maryland at the top with teams 4-10 its a throw a name into a hat and pull them out for where they stand in the BT.

No way you can put Maryland in the same discussion as Michigan and MSU. Sure their records are similar. But thats it. MD isn't on the same level as UM/MSU. The Terps are no better than OSU, Purdue, IU, Wisky, etc, etc....Big 10 right now is:

UM/MSU






OSU, MD, IU, Wisky, Neb, etc, etc....













Rutgers.

 

[jhmossy]

I’m a MSU fan. We own UVA. Don’t own Duke obviously. I like the B1G chances if MSU plays UVA and UM plays Duke in the F4

I would sign up for that right now

 

[bMORE607]

No way you can put Maryland in the same discussion as Michigan and MSU. Sure their records are similar. But thats it. MD isn't on the same level as UM/MSU. The Terps are no better than OSU, Purdue, IU, Wisky, etc, etc....Big 10 right now is:

UM/MSU






OSU, MD, IU, Wisky, Neb, etc, etc....













Rutgers.

Sweet jesus thats not what Gil said. He said MSU, UM and Maryland are at the top of the standings which they are. The middle is a jumbled mess with any team capable of finishing anywhere.

 

[Quavarius]

I’m a MSU fan. We own UVA. Don’t own Duke obviously. I like the B1G chances if MSU plays UVA and UM plays Duke in the F4

I wouldn’t hang my hat on the BIG 10 winning one or both games for a chance to win the conference’s first title since 2000. Think the ACC splits (in your scenario) or goes 2-0. MSU may own UVA, but other conferences own the Big 10 in NCAA Championships since 2000. Not sure the last time a Big 10 team beat an ACC team in the FF or Championship game since MSU last won it all in 2000.

Per KenPom:

1. Duke
2. Virginia
3. MSU
6. Michigan

Not sure how you would think the Big 10 two best team would beat the ACC’s two best teams.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Sweet jesus thats not what Gil said. He said MSU, UM and Maryland are at the top of the standings which they are. The middle is a jumbled mess with any team capable of finishing anywhere.

No,,,thats not what he said.

the BT split with the ACC 7-7. so there was no real seperation. between the 2 conferences
right now its Michigan, MSU and Maryland at the top with teams 4-10 its a throw a name into a hat and pull them out for where they stand in the BT.

He's implying b/c MD is at the top with UM/MSU, that they are on the same level as those two. Or at least that's how I took it. To me he's saying MD is just as good as UM/MSU.

 

[bMORE607]

No,,,thats not what he said.



He's implying b/c MD is at the top with UM/MSU, that they are on the same level as those two. Or at least that's how I took it. To me he's saying MD is just as good as UM/MSU.

Congrats you’ve been outsmarted by Gil.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Congrats you’ve been outsmarted by Gil.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............









No.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Maryland is in the 3-10 jumbled mess

 

[kdavid45]

ACC







Everyone else. Big 10. Laughable.

All other posts, readable .

Yours, laughable

 

[MGC_07]

the BT split with the ACC 7-7. so there was no real seperation. between the 2 conferences
right now its Michigan, MSU and Maryland at the top with teams 4-10 its a throw a name into a hat and pull them out for where they stand in the BT.

There is a big gap between UM/MSU and Maryland.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Maryland is in the 3-10 jumbled mess

Yes they are. I took Gil's post as if he were including MD, with UM/MSU. I mean while else say, UM, MSU and MD are at the top....with 4-10 being a toss up? I mean, call me stupid, but I mean that implies MD is on the same level as UM/MSU...........And that just ain't so.

 

[Danger 35 Zone]

After you get past the top 2 of each conference, how does the Big 10 3 to 5 stack up with #9 VT, #12 UNC, #13 FSU. Obviously those rankings will change this week because some took losses in the ACC. But I honestly curious about the Big 10 next 3, because outside of seeing Indiana play, I haven't seen any of them.