Programs Best Player to NOT have a solid NBA Career

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  1. Ipartiedwithhopgood

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    Forte-UNC
    Lamb-UK
    Morrison-Zags
    Jeffries-IU, I know he played awhile but the dude didn't score just shocked by that


    Who else...
    Hummel-Purdue
    Robinson-KU
    Jerome Harmon-Louisville
    Ed O'Bannon-UCLA
     
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    Damn forgot about Forte, he was such a smooth scorer in college I thought he was gonna be a star as well.

    Injuries pretty much got Hummel before he ever even got the chance. Purdue was rowdy with him and etwan Moore and (can’t think of stud guards name), shame they lost Hummel for two tourneys in a row I believe. Not saying they would have won both or either but they had a really nice team.
     
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    Respert was money from deep. 47% from 3 while averaging 25 a game as a senior. He was a 20 PPG scorer for 3 years at MSU. He’s someone I think would have had more success in today’s NBA.
     
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    Good. Fvck that guy
     
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    Khalid El-Amin
     
  6. Villian07

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    ^^^ thanks that guy was not only fun to watch, he looked like he was having so much fun on the court.
     
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    KU:
    Thomas Robinson(I'm still baffled by this one)

    Josh Jackson: all of the tools are still there, plays well when he stays out of his own way. Hoping he has a comeback story.

    Xavier Henry: Thought he'd have a long career as a 3 & D guy.


    KSTATE: Micheal Beasley. Thought he should've been #1 over Rose(probably best im not a GM)

    UK: Malik Monk ( I know its early and he shows promise, I just thought he'd be better at this point)
     
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    E’Twaun was the guard. Were you thinking of JaJuan Johnson who was our big guy?
     
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    Jackson and Monk still have time, both are pretty good.
     
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    I think Jackson and Monk are alright too. Jackson got fresh start and seems they like him. Monk is a heater off bench he is a guy that could be a solid 6th man.
     
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    Always thought maybe Malik was too small to play SG in the NBA. If he can keep his head on straight, maybe he can find a nice role as a starter at some point.
     
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    Way too many from Duke...

    Danny Ferry
    Bobby Hurley
    Jason Williams
    Shelden Williams
    Jon Scheyer (never played in the NBA)
    Kyle Singler
    Nolan Smith
     
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    Yes thank you! Johnson is one of the longest lankiest players maybe ever. Skinny as a nail but he was still a damn good player.
     
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    There’s another bet where someone could have taken my life savings, if they would have bet me after the draft that Donovan Mitchell would have more of an NBA impact than Malik Monk. And I knew Mitchell was good, I just thought monk was gonna be a star.

    Monk was so deadly from deep in college, and he didn’t even need to be open to get his shot off, he would bury jumpers in defenders grill. But yea definitely still plenty of time for Monk and Jackson to carve out nice nba careers.
     
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    who was the guard that played for duke with Elton brand (I think). Avery Williams or William Avery or something. I thought that kid would be a nba player as well. Your right though duke has had quite a few, and you could almost include Laettner was well, even though he made the league and stuck around for a bit, he never reached the level of stardom I personally anticipated.
     
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    Yeah, William Avery was talented. Fun player to watch. Coach K urged him to come back another year. He was a late lottery pick, but fizzled out of the league quickly. He actually came back to Duke last fall with the intention of completing his degree. If you look closely behind the Duke team bench, you'll see he's lurking nearby in most of the games.

    As far as Laettner, yes, most expected more production out of him. He was in All-Star in '97, though. He smoked a lot of pot during the latter part of his career, so perhaps that was to his detriment.
     
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    Carlos Boozer is the opposite to these guys above.
    I didn't expect him to have the kind of career he did.
     
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    He probably could have been utilized a little more at Duke, tbh. I mean, 95% of his shots were within 5 feet of the goal. He had a very solid mid-range from 15-18 feet in the league. That was never on display at Duke, however. But yes, he definitely had much more success than Jason Williams and Mike Dunleavy, who went 2 and 3 in the draft... the same year Boozer was a second-round pick.
     
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    I know the Hornets are trash, but I honestly like their young core. Devonte Graham, Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, Dwayne Bacon, Malik Monk. They have some decent F/C, but imo they should trade Hernangomez, Zeller, and maybe a draft pick for an elite PF/C.
     
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    They just play two completely different sets of game. Donovan is more of a slasher and shooter, similar to Dwade just not as tall, but his 6’10 reach makes up for it. Also having a 42 inch vertical doesn’t hurt.
     
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    If Michael Jordan wasn't the worst owner in NBA history I might have a little hope for them
     
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    Lol, we’ll see. Like I said...a really good big would transform that team to a possible playoff team.
     
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    Thas pretty neat about Avery, I never noticed tbh.

    and hard to blame a kid for leaving for the late lottery. Kids these days leave with no chance of even being drafted.
     
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    Yea but monk could drive and yam on people as well in college. Imo Mitchell’s scoop shot and just all around finishing at the rim when he doesn’t have a wide open lane has allowed him to be so successful. Along with improving his outside shot. Which is basically the same thing u said, but I wouldn’t sell monk short as an athlete or a high flyer either, I don’t know his vert or reach of anything but he can get up as well.
     
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    No doubt, I actually like Malik Monk a lot. Dude was starting to show his potential until the drug test.
     
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    In fairness to Jay Will----he only played one season, before his accident. Averaged 9ppg, 5apg as a rookie.
     
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    Speaking of Jay Will, super small world stuff for me. A girl I grew up with in Indy married him haha. Super random.
     
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    Louisville - Jerome Harmon, that guy was an unbelievable athlete. Not sure whatever happened to him
     
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    I think it is hard to include Bobby, Jason, and Jon in there... they suffered such crazy injuries... it’s hard to ding them for that, you know?

    I mean, I know the thread didn’t originally differentiate or anything, but...
     
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    Since someone already mentioned TJ Ford
    Where are tbe Auburn fans at

    Some of you may be too young to remember Chris Porter but he was on their team last time they were great in the late 1990s.

    His athleticism was crazy.

    Should have stuck on a NBA roster but there were other factors involved off the court. Especially mentally.

    Tyrus Thomas from LSU was another.
    Took LSU to the Final Four by himself in 06.

    Never became that Marcus Camby type big many thought he could be.
    But in college just controlled the interior.
     
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    I haven't read them all, but i want to add Kenny Walker. And I thought Jeff Sheppard had a shot also.
     
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    Luke Jackson

    2x 1st Team all PAC 12
    Averaged over 21 ppg during his senior year

    He ended up coaching at a small D-2 school in Eugene, OR. He went 88-38 in 4 seasons before resigning.
     
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    My favorite KU player that I thought had a chance in the NBA was Steve Woodberry. Didn't even play a minute in the NBA.
    Knasas has so many guys recently that fill the bill of not living up to expectation:
    Darrell Arthur
    Raef Lafrentz
    Drew Gooden
    Keith Langford
    Brandon Rush
    Julian Wright
     
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    gordon played from 2003 to 2016. That’s a pretty good career.
     
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    I’ll add Stromile Swift in for LSU as well, he played in the nba, but I thought that he would be a perennial all star. I thought he had KG type potential.

    And ur right Tyrus Thomas was such a beast at LSU as well. I do think he played with big baby thought right?
     
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    Gooden did have a long nba career, however he was never the stud that I thought he would be coming out of ku. He averaged 10 a game for his career, but I thought he could have been an all timer. Never sure why he couldn’t stick with one team.
     
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    Ronnie Lestor for Iowa had his career ended with a knee injury. otherwise who know's what type of Career he would have had. the next has to be Roy Marble SR, drew comparisons to MJ. to bad he got into drugs.

    the comparison to MJ was unfair but sometimes a player as to just ignore any comparison and make a name for themselves.
     
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    Most of FSU’s best players actually end up having at least a solid career. Sam Cassell, Dave Cowens, Charlie Ward, Bobby Sura, George McCloud, Toney Douglas. Jon Isaac and Malik Beasley seem to be on their way.

    Mitchell Wiggins, Al Thornton, and Doug Edwards are three I thought would do better. Although in Thornton’s case it was injury related. He made the All-Rookie team and averaged like 16 a game his second or third year, but then a bad knee injury.
     
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