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...It's not a lock yet that Herro stays in the draft.

If he stays, UK probably starts the year at #2 behind Michigan State. But, I'd be very, very surprised if he returns. I'd estimate his return status at 10% or less.
 
Kentucky is losing its top 4 players and you think their #3 recruiting class is going to replace all of that - and add more value? Three of those guys are top 20 picks in the upcoming draft, and the other one was a 5th-year senior & top 40 player out of HS. I like how your freshmen are as good as last year's starters, and Duke's freshmen allegedly can't be labeled as shooters because they don't have any experience (except for Hurt). Hot take.

You're a moron. Herro was a mid level top 40 player that developed into a lottery pick.

Forgive me if I think maxey and Whitney will easily match Herro and Johnson's production. Only two top 10 recruits haven't come in and averaged at least 10ppg their freshman season and been major contributors. Skal, because he was soft and Montgomery because he was playing behind an all american.

Dukes freshman cant be labeled shooters because almost to a man scouts say they need to improve their shooting.
 
Duke and UK will both be top 5 next year most likely. Should be interesting.

No need to bicker in April about who will be better though. Both teams are going to be good. We’ll see how it plays out.
 
Kentucky is losing its top 4 players and you think their #3 recruiting class is going to replace all of that - and add more value? Three of those guys are top 20 picks in the upcoming draft, and the other one was a 5th-year senior & top 40 player out of HS. I like how your freshmen are as good as last year's starters, and Duke's freshmen allegedly can't be labeled as shooters because they don't have any experience (except for Hurt). Hot take.

It’s that time of year again where Uk fans like Crazy hype the crap out of their team and then after they lose their first game he jumps ship talking bad about them on here lol. MSU will be an interesting game
 
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We obviously need improvement from nick and EJ. I feel a lot better about getting it from EJ than I do nick
 
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Michigan State is clear #1. Duke will add a couple more including Hurt. Should put them at #2. Auburn is best in SEC. Don't lose much and add a very underrated Okkora. UK needs to add a top notch Big to approach last year's team. Seminoles could crash the party. Fear the Beard. If Jerome stays in the draft UVA will be between 10 and 15 to start the year. If Washington adds McDaniels to go with Stewart they could be a scary bunch come March. More kids have declared for the draft than there are picks. Some of them will have to come back. UT could be real good again if Bones and Williams withdraw their names. If Kansas adds a big and Dotson, Grimes and Azubuike come back they will be much improved.To many variables to pick a top 5. There are a lot of ifs.
 


....shame on the pathetic loser who did this is.

People take things way too far for no reason at all.

Inexcusable. I hope the cops catch whoever said this.
 
You're a moron. Herro was a mid level top 40 player that developed into a lottery pick.

Forgive me if I think maxey and Whitney will easily match Herro and Johnson's production. Only two top 10 recruits haven't come in and averaged at least 10ppg their freshman season and been major contributors. Skal, because he was soft and Montgomery because he was playing behind an all american.

Dukes freshman cant be labeled shooters because almost to a man scouts say they need to improve their shooting.

You said the players coming in might outweigh the value of the players leaving. That means you have to include PJ Washington into the equation.

Reid Travis should be compared to Sestina, since they're both bigs and grad transfers. I think Sestina will be a good player, but more likely to have Derek Willis type numbers (7-8 ppg, 4-5 reb). I'd certainly give the edge to Travis (averaged 19.5 ppg, 8.7 reb at Stanford and 11/7 at UK).

Then you'll need to have Whitney, Maxey, and Brooks provide more value than the losses of PJ Washington, Tyler Herro, and Keldon Johnson. Washington was 3rd Team All-American and Herro & Johnson were 2nd Team All-Conference. That's a tall task. I don't doubt that Whitney/Maxey will be double-digit scorers, but I don't think Brooks will be starting. Also, FWIW, Dakari Johnson wasn't a double-digit scorer either... And Duke can't be labeled shooters because of what? Ellis and Hurt are two of the best shooters in this class. But believe what you want to believe.
 
Because the 5* showed virtually nothing all year. The rankings had him higher than Zion....LOL.

They are two different players. Hurt being a natural scorer alone sets his impact for each team higher than EJ’s. Hurt will have a bigger impact for Duke than EJ will for Kentucky. That is why I have the > sign, not because he’s “better” but idk how you can expect some type of PJ turnaround for EJ. This time a year ago PJ was fringe 1st round, most likely 2nd. EJ isn’t on a single draft board. Comparing PJ to EJ is downgrading how good Washington is.

I never compared PJ to EJ. And yes I agree EJ and Hurt are different kind of players, however you are the one who used (>) comparing EJ with Hurt.

Just because EJ didn't have the immediate impact this year doesn't mean he wont next. He's a very talented player.
 
I realize that who will actually end up leaving school for the NBA will have the biggest effect on the preseason rankings, but as it stands now, how would you rank teams for next year?
Della, how does it feel to have a coach at UT that states he preferred to go to UCLA? UCLA couldn't come up with the 5 million buyout money and Barnes said he had to stay at UT. Not a good look for UT and Barnes. I guess he feels like UT is not where he really wants to be.
 
Della, how does it feel to have a coach at UT that states he preferred to go to UCLA? UCLA couldn't come up with the 5 million buyout money and Barnes said he had to stay at UT. Not a good look for UT and Barnes. I guess he feels like UT is not where he really wants to be.

Barnes is staying at UT and Barnes stated he would retire at UT. Barnes does not lie and anyone dealing with him should know if he says it, he believes it. He is a man of integrity in a world of PC. This is the thing that I like about him the most. That and the fact that he is a builder and can make a mighty structure with lesser parts (2 & 3 stars). I think Cal is a great coach (I mean that), but I wouldn't trade him for Barnes.

Barnes has won 4 of 6 from Cal and mighty Kentucky with 2 & 3 stars. UK with her lottery picks and great coach (Cal is a great coach) fell to Barnes and non Blue blood UT. Does anyone else hold such an edge over UK? I doubt it. It is a great time to be a Tennessee Vol!
 
UK 48 regular season championships to UT 9. UK 38 tournament champions to UT 4. 1979 last UT SEC tournament championships. UT one elite 8. UK 8 national championships. UT is on a nice run. Barnes is doing a great job but the Vols are not king of the SEC.
 
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What in hell is a "down season"?

If UK's season was a "down season" what did Tennessee have?

Geeze Della get a life.
Why are you asking me Bert, you liked the posters post that I got it from. It is pretty stupid to like it in one post and make a dumb ass remark about it in the next.

Tennessee had a very good season. We beat UK 2 of 3, we had the most wins in a season, coach won x2 COY and won POY. It was a good year.
 
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Barnes is staying at UT and Barnes stated he would retire at UT. Barnes does not lie and anyone dealing with him should know if he says it, he believes it. He is a man of integrity in a world of PC. This is the thing that I like about him the most. That and the fact that he is a builder and can make a mighty structure with lesser parts (2 & 3 stars). I think Cal is a great coach (I mean that), but I wouldn't trade him for Barnes.

Barnes has won 4 of 6 from Cal and mighty Kentucky with 2 & 3 stars. UK with her lottery picks and great coach (Cal is a great coach) fell to Barnes and non Blue blood UT. Does anyone else hold such an edge over UK? I doubt it. It is a great time to be a Tennessee Vol!
I like how beating UK is your measure of success in both football and basketball.

Must be a sad time to be a Vol.
 
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I like how beating UK is your measure of success in both football and basketball.

Must be a sad time to be a Vol.
We have a 34 year home win streak against pathetic UK in football. But, I never mentioned football.

You're right on basketball, though. Beating UK ain't no big deal anymore, everyone does it.:)
 
We have a 34 year home win streak against pathetic UK in football. But, I never mentioned football.

You're right on basketball, though. Beating UK ain't no big deal anymore, everyone does it.:)
Pretty sure we had the most wins the past decade. But thanks for continuing to be ignorant.
 
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You do a shit job analyzing your own team in the middle of a season. Why do we care about your predictions for the next year? And who the hell is going to be insulted by YOU calling THEM a moron? Laughing
Seems like you enjoy the title.
 
We have a 34 year home win streak against pathetic UK in football. But, I never mentioned football.

You're right on basketball, though. Beating UK ain't no big deal anymore, everyone does it.:)
However UK always goes farther in the NCAA tournament. UT always flames out when it really matters.
 
Barnes is staying at UT and Barnes stated he would retire at UT. Barnes does not lie and anyone dealing with him should know if he says it, he believes it. He is a man of integrity in a world of PC. This is the thing that I like about him the most. That and the fact that he is a builder and can make a mighty structure with lesser parts (2 & 3 stars). I think Cal is a great coach (I mean that), but I wouldn't trade him for Barnes.

Barnes has won 4 of 6 from Cal and mighty Kentucky with 2 & 3 stars. UK with her lottery picks and great coach (Cal is a great coach) fell to Barnes and non Blue blood UT. Does anyone else hold such an edge over UK? I doubt it. It is a great time to be a Tennessee Vol!
Cal gets his team ready for the NCAA tournament and Barnes flames out in the NCAA tournament. I wouldn't trade Cal for two Rick Barnes.
 
However UK always goes farther in the NCAA tournament. UT always flames out when it really matters.
According to most UK fans anything worse than a final 4 is flaming out. So, we both flamed out, but we had more to show for it.
 
Cal gets his team ready for the NCAA tournament and Barnes flames out in the NCAA tournament. I wouldn't trade Cal for two Rick Barnes.
Cal lost to a crippled team (lost OKEKE) in the NCAA that UK beat by 27. Doesn't appear he got them very ready at all.
 
Cal lost to a crippled team (lost OKEKE) in the NCAA that UK beat by 27. Doesn't appear he got them very ready at all.
Of course Cal went farther than Tennessee again. UT may not even make the tourney this year and Barnes is looking to leave as soon as his buyout is reduced. He already said he prefers UCLA.
 
Pretty sure we had the most wins the past decade. But thanks for continuing to be ignorant.
In the last 4 or 5 years we have the advantage in CBB. In CFB, we have the advantage since the dawn of time.:D
 
Of course Cal went farther than Tennessee again. UT may not even make the tourney this year and Barnes is looking to leave as soon as his buyout is reduced. He already said he prefers UCLA.
Neither one of us may make the tourney this year, knucklehead.

Barnes is here to stay and continue beating UK.
 
According to most UK fans anything worse than a final 4 is flaming out. So, we both flamed out, but we had more to show for it.
You have less to show for it. Flamed out earlier than UK. I hope UT will get to a final four one day. However I doubt it.
 
Neither one of us may make the tourney this year, knucklehead.

Barnes is here to stay and continue beating UK.
I hope Barnes stays at UT. I know if he stays UT will never make a final four as long as he is at UT.
 
You have less to show for it. Flamed out earlier than UK. I hope UT will get to a final four one day. However I doubt it.
COY, POY and best record in our history beats ya and you know it.:D
 
I hope Barnes stays at UT. I know if he stays UT will never make a final four as long as he is at UT.
If you have to flame, pick one post to flame instead of saying the same thing twice in two posts.Laughing
 
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