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Preseason top 5

Refer to the majority of the lists ITT

Do you want to avi bet who is higher in the pre season poll?

Edit: pre season or final poll. Makes no difference.
Lol it’s April. The recruting process isn’t even over yet. That’s cool that a few people included you guys in their lists on a message board. That really solidifies things..
 
Don’t worry Louisville won’t be seeing any top five lists either. You should have started a top 15-25 thread to include Tennessee and Louisville
If Nwora returns, I could see Louisville better than UK next year.

This is probably the least talented team Calipari has had since he's been at UK.
 
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I don't buy duke as top 5. Jones, Bolden, white, delaurier and a so-so recruiting class? Not top 5.
DeLaurier and Bolden should be good as seniors next year and we're getting a top 5 recruit in Vernon Carey Jr. next year plus likely another top 10 stretch 4 in Matt Hurt. Throw in a proven winner in Cassius Stanley and a swiss army knife recruit in Wendell Moore and that's a very solid, balanced roster.

Don't be butthurt that MSU and Duke have better rosters than UK next year.
 
Jesus just give Michigan State the title next year if they bring everyone back. I don't see how this roster doesn't win it all. They're just too balanced, experienced and talented.

Starters
Cassius Winston
Josh Langford
Kyle Ahrens
Aaron Henry
Xavier Tillman

Bench
Nick Ward
Rocket Watts
Gabe Brown
Foster Loyer
 
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Refer to the majority of the lists ITT

Do you want to avi bet who is higher in the pre season poll?

Edit: pre season or final poll. Makes no difference.

To you, any poll means a lot. That was shown in your first post. Rustled because of a preseason poll in April
 
Very, very likely that Duke lands Matthew Hurt and Cassius Stanley, which would give them the #1 recruiting class. I certainly don't think this team will have a ceiling anywhere close to the 2019 team. But, I'd be surprised if they're not in the top 5 to start. It's a top 5 not necessarily because they're overly-talented, but more so because college basketball appears to be slightly down next year.

Two top 10 recruits to go with Duke's returning core just doesn't strike fear going forward. They would return only 1 player who shot better than 28% from 3 and bring in only one real shooter (if they land hurt). I just think this duke team is more of a top 15 team. And thats with the best case scenario to finish out recruiting.
 
Two top 10 recruits to go with Duke's returning core just doesn't strike fear going forward. They would return only 1 player who shot better than 28% from 3 and bring in only one real shooter (if they land hurt). I just think this duke team is more of a top 15 team. And thats with the best case scenario to finish out recruiting.

Wonder what you’d say if you changed “Duke’s” to “Uk’s” in the first sentence.

Jones is the best player to return for Duke and he’s a PG. Frankly, that’s the only person they needed to return to be good. The recruits fill the other gaps.

Jones > Hagans
Stanley < Maxey
Moore = Whitney
Hurt > Sestina
Carey > Richards

is a pretty deadly starting 5. Shooters everywhere. Definitely more balanced than Uk’s starting 5. Backcourt is loaded whereas the frontcourt is bleak at the moment.

There’s not much difference in squads yet here we are in your thread where you think Uk is top 2 and Duke is top 15, when, if you break down each roster, they are pretty comparable.
 
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Wonder what you’d say if you changed “Duke’s” to “Uk’s” in the first sentence.

Jones is the best player to return for Duke and he’s a PG. Frankly, that’s the only person they needed to return to be good. The recruits fill the other gaps.

Jones
Stanley
Moore
Hurt
Carey

is a pretty deadly starting 5. Shooters everywhere. Definitely more balanced than Uk’s starting 5. Backcourt is loaded whereas the frontcourt is bleak at the moment.

There’s not much difference in squads yet here we are in a thread where you think Uk is top 2 and Duke is top 15, when, if you break down each roster, they are pretty comparable.
No no no... UK is definitely a top 2 team next year.
 
Jesus just give Michigan State the title next year if they bring everyone back. I don't see how this roster doesn't win it all. They're just too balanced, experienced and talented.

You of all people should know that having the best players / roster doesn't always end up with a title. Luck is definitely involved and having things go your way for 6 straight games is a factor (look at Virginia's close calls that all went their way, or they could've been out vs. Purdue in the E8, etc.).

MSU typically has one of those "potential" rosters every few years, but then shit typically falls apart. Maybe they win it all this year if Langford isn't out for 2/3rd's of the season. But shit happens. If you can't tell, I'm salty about 7 of our 8 (somewhat) recent Final Fours.
 
Two top 10 recruits to go with Duke's returning core just doesn't strike fear going forward. They would return only 1 player who shot better than 28% from 3 and bring in only one real shooter (if they land hurt). I just think this duke team is more of a top 15 team. And thats with the best case scenario to finish out recruiting.
A small dose of fear of Duke might serve you Cats better considering last year.:eek:
 
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To you, any poll means a lot. That was shown in your first post. Rustled because of a preseason poll in April
I’m not even close to rustled as my team is mentioned in nearly every list. It seems to bother you and your girlfriend though
If Nwora returns, I could see Louisville better than UK next year.

This is probably the least talented team Calipari has had since he's been at UK.
then they should have no problem with basically a blind avatar bet
Lol it’s April. The recruting process isn’t even over yet. That’s cool that a few people included you guys in their lists on a message board. That really solidifies things..
I said preseason or post season in case you skipped over that part. Avatar bet for who has a better season? We are basically going in blind. That’s how much confidence I have in my program over your second rate one.
 
Jones > Hagans
Stanley < Maxey
Moore = Whitney
Hurt > EJ
Carey > Richards
I don't know man. I have my sources.

Barker, richards and Montgomery likely to stay. Plus add sestina, maxey, Whitney, brooks and Allen. Even if allen redshirts, no way this team isn't one of the 2 best teams in CBB.

Probably run a 4 out dribble drive offense.

PG - Hagans, Quickley
SG - Maxey, Barker
SF - Whitney, Brooks, Allen
PF - Montgomery
C - Sestina, Richards
 
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Wonder what you’d say if you changed “Duke’s” to “Uk’s” in the first sentence.

Jones is the best player to return for Duke and he’s a PG. Frankly, that’s the only person they needed to return to be good. The recruits fill the other gaps.

Jones > Hagans
Stanley < Maxey
Moore = Whitney
Hurt > Sestina
Carey > Richards

is a pretty deadly starting 5. Shooters everywhere. Definitely more balanced than Uk’s starting 5. Backcourt is loaded whereas the frontcourt is bleak at the moment.

There’s not much difference in squads yet here we are in your thread where you think Uk is top 2 and Duke is top 15, when, if you break down each roster, they are pretty comparable.
One of the dumbest statements ever to say "shooters everywhere." There is 1 shooter on that roster.

Same shit different year for card fans. UK fans may exaggerate expectations slightly but UofL fans go full ****** every statement.
 
Two top 10 recruits to go with Duke's returning core just doesn't strike fear going forward. They would return only 1 player who shot better than 28% from 3 and bring in only one real shooter (if they land hurt). I just think this duke team is more of a top 15 team. And thats with the best case scenario to finish out recruiting.

-Boogie Ellis shot 46% from 3 in 23 AAU games.
-Alex O'Connell is a career 41.6% 3-pt shooter at Duke.
-Jack White was shooting 41% from 3 before he lost his confidence (led the team in 3-pt shooting during the summer practices).
-Joey Baker shot 40% from 3 in HS.
-Wendell Moore shot 36% from 3 in HS.

And then there's Matthew Hurt, arguably the best shooter in the class. 3-point shooting will not be a weakness for this team. But sure, let's pretend there are only two shooters on the team.

I'll concede that they're not uber-talented like last year, but who is besides Michigan State? UVA, Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, Michigan, Tennessee, and Gonzaga are all losing a lot more than they're adding. Not top 5 in the traditional sense, but more so out of necessity.
 
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I’m not even close to rustled as my team is mentioned in nearly every list. It seems to bother you and your girlfriend though

then they should have no problem with basically a blind avatar bet

I said preseason or post season in case you skipped over that part. Avatar bet for who has a better season? We are basically going in blind. That’s how much confidence I have in my program over your second rate one.
Are you gauging a better season based on final rankings, record, or post-season success?
 
One of the dumbest statements ever to say "shooters everywhere." There is 1 shooter on that roster.

Same shit different year for card fans. UK fans may exaggerate expectations slightly but UofL fans go full ****** every statement.
You go full ****** every time you log into your local library computer. Your brethren are even embarrassed. Perhaps you should replace the fedora with a thinking cap.
 
If Nwora returns, I could see Louisville better than UK next year.

This is probably the least talented team Calipari has had since he's been at UK.

Not sure if this illustrates your wishful thinking or if you smoked some serious shit before posting this.
 
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If Nwora returns, I could see Louisville better than UK next year.

This is probably the least talented team Calipari has had since he's been at UK.
Pretty much this. Though they’ll deny it, because raftards don’t have the ability to be objective.
 
Hagans
Quickley
Richards
Montgomery
Baker
Calipari
Payne
....all returning

Newcomers:

Maxsey
Whitney
Brooks
Allen

Possible Adds: J. McDaniels, Herro (big IF)

"Least talented"? Nah, the 2013 team still wears that label.
 
Lolololol he added Brad “earned not given” Calipari Laughing
 
Just like the NBA, the game has evolved into players 6'8" and under. Bigs aren't going to win 6 games in the tournament for you. Save from rim protectors, bigs are just getting in the way...
 
-Boogie Ellis shot 46% from 3 in 23 AAU games.
-Alex O'Connell is a career 41.6% 3-pt shooter at Duke.
-Jack White was shooting 41% from 3 before he lost his confidence (led the team in 3-pt shooting during the summer practices).
-Joey Baker shot 40% from 3 in HS.
-Wendell Moore shot 36% from 3 in HS.

And then there's Matthew Hurt, arguably the best shooter in the class. 3-point shooting will not be a weakness for this team. But sure, let's pretend there are only two shooters on the team.

I'll concede that they're not uber-talented like last year, but who is besides Michigan State? UVA, Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, Michigan, Tennessee, and Gonzaga are all losing a lot more than they're adding. Not top 5 in the traditional sense, but more so out of necessity.
Ok. So oconnell and hurt.

White is a career 27% 3FG shooter. Make whatever excuse you want about his shooting against inferior competition. In ACC games he has been trash.

Baker played 4 games and Moore and Ellis are incoming frosh.

UK is losing two top 15 recruits, a top 40 recruit plus travis. Bringing in two top 10 recruits, a top 25 recruit and a top 100 recruit plus Sestina, a proven big that is a shooter with tons of experience. I think the argument could definitely be made that UK is bringing in more than they are losing.
 
Jones > Hagans
Stanley < Maxey
Moore = Whitney
Hurt > EJ
Carey > Richards

I give Jones the nod but were almost splitting hair when it comes to these two. Neither can shoot and both are good defensively, Jones being a little better.

Whitney IMO is better than Moore.

Unless you've seen Hurt play a lot, not sure how you can say he's better than a second year 5* that was behind a stud like PJ. At most this match up is a wash. Plus I can guarantee you Hurt ain't no defensive stud. At times this year EJ was very good on D and rebounded well in traffic. Hurt isn't stopping anyone that wants to get to the hoop.

Agree on Cary Richards. But like I been saying, guards and small forwards are what it takes to win 6 in the tourney.
 
If Nwora returns, I could see Louisville better than UK next year.

This is probably the least talented team Calipari has had since he's been at UK.

Just no.

Hagans, Montgomery, maxey and Whitney all top 15.

Quickley, Richards and brooks all top 25.

Baker and Allen both 4 stars.

Plus a proven D1 player in Sestina.

2011, 2013, 2016 and 2018 were all less talented (all except 2018 significantly so). I think it's possible to also make an argument that 2017 was less talented. After monk, fox, bam and Briscoe, it was a bunch of mid rated recruits that were bit players and there was literally no experience outside of briscoe.
 
I give Jones the nod but were almost splitting hair when it comes to these two. Neither can shoot and both are good defensively, Jones being a little better.

Whitney IMO is better than Moore.

Unless you've seen Hurt play a lot, not sure how you can say he's better than a second year 5* that was behind a stud like PJ. At most this match up is a wash. Plus I can guarantee you Hurt ain't no defensive stud. At times this year EJ was very good on D and rebounded well in traffic. Hurt isn't stopping anyone that wants to get to the hoop.

Agree on Cary Richards. But like I been saying, guards and small forwards are what it takes to win 6 in the tourney.

Because the 5* showed virtually nothing all year. The rankings had him higher than Zion....LOL.

They are two different players. Hurt being a natural scorer alone sets his impact for each team higher than EJ’s. Hurt will have a bigger impact for Duke than EJ will for Kentucky. That is why I have the > sign, not because he’s “better” but idk how you can expect some type of PJ turnaround for EJ. This time a year ago PJ was fringe 1st round, most likely 2nd. EJ isn’t on a single draft board. Comparing PJ to EJ is downgrading how good Washington is.
 
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Ok. So oconnell and hurt.

White is a career 27% 3FG shooter. Make whatever excuse you want about his shooting against inferior competition. In ACC games he has been trash.

Baker played 4 games and Moore and Ellis are incoming frosh.

UK is losing two top 15 recruits, a top 40 recruit plus travis. Bringing in two top 10 recruits, a top 25 recruit and a top 100 recruit plus Sestina, a proven big that is a shooter with tons of experience. I think the argument could definitely be made that UK is bringing in more than they are losing.

Kentucky is losing its top 4 players and you think their #3 recruiting class is going to replace all of that - and add more value? Three of those guys are top 20 picks in the upcoming draft, and the other one was a 5th-year senior & top 40 player out of HS. I like how your freshmen are as good as last year's starters, and Duke's freshmen allegedly can't be labeled as shooters because they don't have any experience (except for Hurt). Hot take.
 
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Kentucky is losing its top 4 players and you think their #3 recruiting class is going to replace all of that - and add more value? Three of those guys are top 20 picks in the upcoming draft, and the other one was a 5th-year senior & top 40 player out of HS. I like how your freshmen are as good as last year's starters, and Duke's freshmen allegedly can't be labeled as shooters because they don't have any experience (except for Hurt). Hot take.

...It's not a lock yet that Herro stays in the draft.
 
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