Is the NBA struggling to make money? Where’s the outrage to pay G League plays more?
Unfortunately that’s the only option for High School Baseball players that can’t afford tuition. I bet life in the G League is a lot better than single A ball.
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Unfortunately that’s the only option for High School Baseball players that can’t afford tuition. I bet life in the G League is a lot better than single A ball.
They do get a stipend and it was just increased. Do basketball/football players get more than field hockey or track?
they do get money to spend out of that scholarship, then there are Pell grants that don't have to be paid back.
figure out how much money the colleges are paying for the food they eat, the books and rooms, in most college towns rent is north of $750 a month.
that = $9000 + per year these athletes are saving, then there are the utility, food and insurance cost that they don't have coming out of their pockets.
then there is all their medically needs are paid for.
these are the things never mentioned that they are getting. this can go into the 6 figure range per year.
to do better they would have to go to the military.
figure out how much money the colleges are paying for the food they eat, the books and rooms, in most college towns rent is north of $750 a month.
that = $9000 + per year these athletes are saving, then there are the utility, food and insurance cost that they don't have coming out of their pockets.
then there is all their medically needs are paid for.
these are the things never mentioned that they are getting. this can go into the 6 figure range per year.
to do better they would have to go to the military.
also college Athletes travel 1st class and not buses or charter flight. nor do the stay in minor hotels/motels. where these college Athlete stay at the more prestiges hotel/motel that offer breakfast to their over night guests,
I have no idea what you are talking about. Pretty sure you're not responding to anything I have said.
With precious few exceptions, the basketball players and football players generate all the money. What they earn is being distributed without their say and funding other athletic programs. That's great that tennis players and those in other sports can earn money upon turning pro. They have that option of pursuing that career path. However, in college, they aren't generating any revenue for the school.
you are ignoring Government mandated rule of equality of the women and men,
the men start getting paid the women will demand the same and they have the government on their side. who is on your side in this?
No, they can operate as intramural spots. Apparently, you think it's right that athletes in nonrevenue sports get to enjoy their opportunities off the labor of athletes in revenue producing sports. Doesn't seem fair to me.
I bet it's not much better. However, there are plenty of kids that can't afford tuition around the nation. That is not an excuse. What's stopping those kids from being just as diligent in the classroom as they are on the field? Can't get enough to go to college on an athletic scholarship? Cool, crack open the books and earn an academic scholarship then. Join the military. Get a student loan. You know, stuff the average college non-athletes do in order to go to college.
When the hell did I say anything about not paying women? Ohhh, that's right...... I didn't.
You asking athletes in revenue producing sports to fund athletes in non-revenue producing sports. Why shouldn't those earning the revenues have the right to benefit from that financial creation. You think it's right that Coach K earns $$$$$$ millions while his players earn nothing?
again they are still Athlete playing a sport in the Colleges name, they also compete for National Championships in the name of the colleges sponsored by the NCAA.
Maybe this link will help you understand where the issue lies. Then again, maybe it won't.
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and where is all this money going to come from, there are 350 D1 teams in men and women BB, there are 130 FBS FB programs and there can't be discriminated against. otherwise there will be lawsuits coming out of the wood work with the government backing them. on discrimination charges.
I don't think they really have it bad, just don't think it's a lot to ask to let them profit off of their image or get a percentage of merchandise sales. I don't think we should be paying them a salary or anything, they already get a pretty decent stipend, free housing, state of the art facilities, private planes for travel, usually they have a team chef as well, etc., etc.
indentured is a lie, these athletes were not held at gun point to attend ANY College, if they are that desperate to make money there is always the Euro Leagues when they start out at $250,000 + a year, there have been some 5* players that have gone that way,
way to many are dead certain that these players have no other option to them, they can also transfer but they have to sit out a year unless they are grad transfers.
quit defending these cry babies that want to run from their original schools for their own selfish reasons.
How about they keep a portion of their own jersey/shirt sales. Plus a portion of all merch sales gets divided between all student athletes.
So at UK, if they make half a million in the divided portion of the general merch sales each athlete should get about $1,000. Sounds fair enough so they can each buy a some kegs and uber rides.
So at UK, if they make half a million in the divided portion of the general merch sales each athlete should get about $1,000. Sounds fair enough so they can each buy a some kegs and uber rides.
ohh these poor poor babies want everything now, after they leave college the good ones are looking at multi million dollar shoe and endorsement deals that 99% of these Athletes will never get.
are these 1%'rs going to share that money with their ex teammates? not in this lifetime they won't.
For example. UK has.....
Football ~85
Basketball~28
Baseball 40
Softball~21
Soccer team ~50
Rifle Team~12
Cross country~14
Gymnastics~ 18
Track and Field~50
Golf~20
Volleyball ~10
Tennis~ 19
Cheerleaders 39
Swimming and diving 60
Lets not forget about the cheerleaders.....
So that's 466 that I counted.
Football ~85
Basketball~28
Baseball 40
Softball~21
Soccer team ~50
Rifle Team~12
Cross country~14
Gymnastics~ 18
Track and Field~50
Golf~20
Volleyball ~10
Tennis~ 19
Cheerleaders 39
Swimming and diving 60
Lets not forget about the cheerleaders.....
So that's 466 that I counted.
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Is that 28 for basketball supposed to be baseball? You left baseball off the list.
Sounds like you didn't read the book. In fact, you're using some of the goofy arguments that they readily quash in their analysis.
Of course, now you're going off into another issue. There is no defensible argument for the NBA's requirement that a player sit out a year before being drafted. There is no justifiable reason why a kid can't be drafted and there would be a host of suitors if this contrived barrier didn't exist. It's not like being a lawyer or doctor where specialized training is needed to protect society. Nobody will get hurt if a kid blows a layout or does something stupid on the court, in fact seasoned veterans perform boneheaded plays all the time. In short, if you were 19 and had some potential employer offering you a multimillion dollar contract, you'd jump at it in a heartbeat.
That was men's and women's. I had baseball but somehow erased it. I was surprised at such a high number for baseball.
Thanks though, I updated it.
Thanks though, I updated it.
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I agree that kids should be able to go pro right out of high school. I support that in ANY sport. Good luck & I hope you make millions doing it.
BUT if you fail, don’t come crying that you should get another opportunity to go to college on a scholarship. You tried to make it as a pro in your sport & failed.... now, go get a job!!!
Is that the amount of student athletes in every sport?
You’d be shocked at how many scholarships those sports give out.
Baseball for example, most D1 baseball teams have 11 scholarships to give out. That’s why players only get partial scholarships.
That is everyone on the current roster. For all sports. Updated with swimming and diving. Their roster wouldn't pull up at first.
That should be everyone now.
That should be everyone now.
Indeed, that's fair. I've never heard of anyone begging for a second chance after a failed initial attempt at glory. Usually, they persist by going overseas or trying the minor leagues.
Not yet but if they go back to allowing kids to go straight to the nba & more & more kids don’t make it.
Well, what’s next for people to complain about? That those kids should be able to now go to school. Only a matter of time.
Out of those 466 student athletes you listed, I would love to know how many get FULL scholarships like the football & basketball players get. They have to abide by the same rules, travel the same & practice the same but yet they PAY to play the sport they love.
Don't think that that will ever be the case. Up till 2005, when you could be drafted without having to sit out a year, many kids failed, but there were no complaints. Going to school was never an embraced option. In fact, the idea of these kids complaining because they can't go to school strikes me as hilarious.
the 1 n done rule is there because of the NBA, GET rid of the 1 n done then the wanting to be paid gets thrown out the door.
the NCAA changed the rules to allow players to declare but they still can't sign with a agent so they can get feed back on where they might get drafted, if they don't here what they like then they can come back.
this was done just for the BB players.
in Baseball they can get drafted right out of HS. then the players can see if they get drafted and decide if its the right thing to do. if they go to college they can't be drafted again till after their 3rd year in college.
Iowa has a Pitcher that was a 3rd round pick and turned down the money as he would have received a minimum of 250,000+ dollar signing bonus. he will have to stay in college till after his JR year. he is receiving a partial scholarship. just to improve his skills.
the FB players can't leave till after their graduating class has been out of school for 3 years,
the BB players have been getting paid under the table and now it has been exposed.
talk to the NBA as it is their rule not the NCAA's rule.
the NCAA changed the rules to allow players to declare but they still can't sign with a agent so they can get feed back on where they might get drafted, if they don't here what they like then they can come back.
this was done just for the BB players.
in Baseball they can get drafted right out of HS. then the players can see if they get drafted and decide if its the right thing to do. if they go to college they can't be drafted again till after their 3rd year in college.
Iowa has a Pitcher that was a 3rd round pick and turned down the money as he would have received a minimum of 250,000+ dollar signing bonus. he will have to stay in college till after his JR year. he is receiving a partial scholarship. just to improve his skills.
the FB players can't leave till after their graduating class has been out of school for 3 years,
the BB players have been getting paid under the table and now it has been exposed.
talk to the NBA as it is their rule not the NCAA's rule.
I don't agree. It's about revenue, not the mere common thread of athletics.
There's no question it's a great deal for some to get preferential admissions, partial-to-full tuition, and perks in exchange for getting to continue participating in a hobby. It's laughable to pretend people who generate millions of dollars are adequately compensated by the same, particularly when there's the case to be made that attending college jeopardizes their future earnings.
Think about the workplace. If your same work was suddenly many times more valuable, you'd likely pursue -- if not expect -- a raise.
Yes, abolishing the one and done rule is a consummation devoutly to be wished. It's an anticompetitive practice designed to lower wages rather than a traditional one forged to raise wages. There might still be an issue of corruption, though: just because the players aren't regarded as immediate pro material doesn't mean they wouldn't have value to a college to get a winning edge. The NCAA is still laden with petty rules, bizarre enforcement, and turn-the-other-way tolerance of corruption...you can't blame the NBA for all that is wrong with college basketball.
Baseball's rule is a crock and an intensification of the very issue plaguing college basketball. If players don't want to be in college even for one year, why is there a demand that they stay in college for two? The rule is absurd also because over the two years where the players have to remain in school, they could well develop into better players and more legitimate pro prospects. Since, by allowing players to be immediately drafted out of high school, baseball clearly has admitted to having no philosophical objection to players becoming pros early, the rule contradicts this already acknowledged acceptance.
Football is an entire difference issue. Since the sport might very well collapse under the weight of its own innate brutality, I'm not even going to bother outlining what should be done.
Baseball's rule is a crock and an intensification of the very issue plaguing college basketball. If players don't want to be in college even for one year, why is there a demand that they stay in college for two? The rule is absurd also because over the two years where the players have to remain in school, they could well develop into better players and more legitimate pro prospects. Since, by allowing players to be immediately drafted out of high school, baseball clearly has admitted to having no philosophical objection to players becoming pros early, the rule contradicts this already acknowledged acceptance.
Football is an entire difference issue. Since the sport might very well collapse under the weight of its own innate brutality, I'm not even going to bother outlining what should be done.
Not even sure how this connects to the issue at hand. One should be paid commensurate to the labor expended and profits generated. Of course, in a college environment, where a coach makes exponentially more than any other employee, things are already outrageously out of whack.
no you are the crock as these kids had the chance to go pro right out of HS and get paid, FB players don't get that option and you never if ever hear the FB players complaining and FB is the biggest money maker for the colleges. only these spoiled BB players are crying about having to go to college, each year only 64 players are drafted and only the 1st round picks are guaranteed to get a contract.
to many are over rating their importance to the game of BB, that is because of ESPN over hyping these players.
so now the players are worth more than the coaches?
the normal worker in any company works physically harder than most executives. and now you are saying the common worker should get paid more.
boy do you ever live in a fantasy world.
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